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Offline MileHigh

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #105 on: August 10, 2016, 07:22:24 PM »
There is no Bloch wall in the center of a bar magnet.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #106 on: August 10, 2016, 08:44:55 PM »



  Bit harsh,your treatment of the tinman Erfinder?
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #107 on: August 10, 2016, 09:05:59 PM »
Maybe a story might help, a long time ago in a land far away a man named Earnshaw developed a theorem. Earnshaw's theorem and he stated that "a collection of point charges cannot be maintained in a stable stationary equilibrium configuration solely by the electrostatic interaction of the charges". He also believed this applied to magnetic fields and everyone agreed one cannot balance or levitate one magnet on another. Then one day a clever inventor stumbled onto the fact that if the levitating magnet was spun like a top that in fact it could levitate in a stable manner. Some people believed Earnshaws theorem was an irrefutable law which had now been broken while some experts proclaimed the law was not broken. It was not broken because an extra force was present, the centrifugal force of the spinning top was present balancing the magnet and Earnshaws supposed law does not actually include extra forces only free floating charges and magnets. Thus a theorem or law may seem to always apply but only so long as the conditions applicable to the law do not change in any way.

This is very similar to the story of Lenz Law which states that "the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux and to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion". Think about that... what does the Law actually say?. A changing magnetic field will induce a current in a circuit creating a second magnetic field which will oppose the first magnetic field change. It does not actually mention the source of the inducing magnetic field being opposed only the magnetic field itself being opposed. Thus a magnetic field source could create a rapidly changing magnetic field impulse then turn off before the field has had time to induce a current in the external circuit and the field source cannot be effected and Lenz Law has not been violated yet the external circuit would be induced by the field change after the source has turned off. Anything less would imply the field change has induced the target before it has actually reached the target which is absurd.

This is the problem with believing things which are not true and reading things into something which was never there nor implied to be there. Lenz said only the "inducing field" is opposed by the induced field no more no less.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #107 on: August 10, 2016, 09:05:59 PM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #108 on: August 10, 2016, 09:38:03 PM »
@Erfinder
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I get slammed by these two, and no one sheds a tear....to answer your question.....no....

I have found truth generally comes to light by asking the right questions which may eventually reveal the truth. One cannot fight a pack of hyenas and win, you dig a pit, bait them and let the truth of their own nature produce the desired result.

I had an interesting question the other day, a friend said "thank God". I then said "oh you believe in God?"...*as everyone nearby who knows me rolled their eye's*. I then asked, "if you believe in a God because you cannot believe the universe always was and must have been created then what created God?". Personally, my not understanding why the universe exists seems more believable to me than believing a God created from nothing created the universe from nothing because there are many things I do not understand. However something from apparently nothing such as Gods, the Universe and Energy is generally where I draw the line.

AC

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #109 on: August 10, 2016, 09:41:56 PM »
Twelve coils in series , the field has to propagate in those windings, Shut the first one off before it gets to number twelve, Or better yet, shut it off and fire it before the propagation hits twelve.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #110 on: August 11, 2016, 12:45:50 AM »
@tinman
Actually no, as I have measured and mapped the magnetic fields with sensitive hall effect magnetometer arrays which prove otherwise. We could ask a simple question, when two opposite conditions come together what do you get... ambient conditions. Not unlike positive and negative charge coming together to negate each others external field, not unlike a positive air pressure and a negative air pressure mixing to become no air pressure. I'm really not sure how anything could be more blatantly obvious because we see these effects all around us everywhere every single minute of every day. 

Do you have proof to justify your obviously false claim?.

AC

Yes i do AC,and it is obvious that you must have mapped the field incorrectly.
I am also sure you have seen my test that i carried out,and you will also find that people of the likes of Poynt agree with me-perhaps he has time to answer this question as well.

Like i said,the center of either an electromagnet or PM being of the weakest field,fools many people,as it is actually the strongest part of the field.


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #111 on: August 11, 2016, 12:47:06 AM »


  Bit harsh,your treatment of the tinman Erfinder?
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Thats not harsh minnie,it's only baby talk to me.


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #112 on: August 11, 2016, 12:50:18 AM »



I get slammed by these two, and no one sheds a tear....to answer your question.....no....




Regards

Time to man up baby boy,you started your arrogant bullshit at post 75--so suck it up princes.
If you cant take the heat,get out of the fire.


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #113 on: August 11, 2016, 01:22:06 AM »

You into dribble?


You aren't qualified to see my work.



masiha....man I love it when you do this blatantly ignorant shit....HELLO spell check, use it!  The word is "messiah".  Yes, I was sent here to save people from the likes of you and copy paste junkie.  I know what I'm talking about, and it matters little to me that you don't. 



I still say my video has more content than the 300 or so videos you've posted.  Many of them painfully long, too long, as you drag your ass through the scope and meter connections, you know the general ass kissing routine, police yourself bitch.  Keep those ducks in  line, because its so much more important to practice good measurement than it is to present a genuine original idea.

Me a coward (roar)?  No prob, I'm still two up on you, and your side kick copy paste.....I got a heart, and a brain....you too lack both....



Ah you noticed...I was hoping you noticed.  I am not interested in comparing apples and oranges.  We aren't on the same page, we aren't on the same planet. You don't have anything of interest, in a word, you're "lame"...  weasels are clever....lame is just pathetic.....



This devotion you too share is amazing, the resident copy paste junkie couldn't find his way into a moist slit even if he possessed the sense of smell of a blood hound, but you keep kissing his ass, you do that well.  You two are so damn smart (not) but between the two of you one can't find an original thought.  You can call what I say garbage, I take it as a compliment from the resident illiterate.  I read somewhere, or saw it in a movie not sure which, anyway....  "For sure, you have to be lost to find a place that can't be found, elseways everyone would know where it was!"  How's that for a  quote copy paste...not a question....Hell yeah, I am good and lost, got no strings on me.....bitch...


Not into medication, but I will have a beer.....




cheers clowns...



Erfinder - Inventor - NOT!!!

You’re the new MileHigh obviously!!!

He was banned for his idiocies, maybe you should learn from his mistakes?

You keep confusing Team Work with other less delightful procedures that your little mind seems to be affixed on, isn’t that sad, and quite disgusting!!!

Right now, your behaviour shows you are very clearly grasping, grasping for something of value because you obviously know inside yourself that what you’ve shown is nothing new and nothing of value to so many others that have surpassed you!!!

I think many will admit that they still have so much to learn, I do, I have a lot to learn, not ashamed to admit it, I bet many others that have surpassed you will also admit the same!

Sadly, you think you have already made it, achieved ultimate glory, are the Emperor of Free Energy, an Aether Tapper, or whatever fancy weirdo non-sense name you choose to put to the “Invented” term you come up with.. Sadly this is all you have "Invented" - Non-sense terms that make no sense to the rest or the world.

If you have not heard, progress is being made, it’s really your choice if you want to be part of it. Currently many would prefer not to have your Attitude present!

A friend of mine said to me, whom I deeply respect:
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I applaud you for your perseverance and ability to deal with a bunch of  slow learners !  I would have given up long ago.


Showing respect to any and all around you is common courtesy, whether they be more advanced or less advanced than you, again something that can be learned in life if one chooses…


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #114 on: August 11, 2016, 01:29:24 AM »

You into dribble?






 
















Not into medication, but I will have a beer.....




cheers clowns...

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masiha....man I love it when you do this blatantly ignorant shit....HELLO spell check, use it!  The word is "messiah".


 Masiha-->, gives you the desire to understand and help others with their problems but, at the same time, you can become too involved and worrying as the result.
 ::)

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This devotion you too share is amazing, the resident copy paste junkie couldn't find his way into a moist slit even if he possessed the sense of smell of a blood hound, but you keep kissing his ass, you do that well.  You two are so damn smart (not) but between the two of you one can't find an original thought.  You can call what I say garbage, I take it as a compliment from the resident illiterate.  I read somewhere, or saw it in a movie not sure which, anyway....  "For sure, you have to be lost to find a place that can't be found, elseways everyone would know where it was!"  How's that for a  quote copy paste...not a question....Hell yeah, I am good and lost, got no strings on me.....bitch...


Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeZ_F1op9N8&index=7&list=FLsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

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Me a coward (roar)?  No prob, I'm still two up on you, and your side kick copy paste.....I got a heart, and a brain....you too lack both....

You have no heart,only the desire to shoot down those that dont agree with you,and if you had half a brain,you'd be dangerous.

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Ah you noticed...I was hoping you noticed.  I am not interested in comparing apples and oranges.  We aren't on the same page, we aren't on the same planet. You don't have anything of interest, in a word, you're "lame"...  weasels are clever....lame is just pathetic.....

Well,we have all seen what you have--oh wait,no we havnt  ::)
The only reason we wont see anything from you,is because you know i could explain it away in a heartbeat,and it will conform to known science. That would mean you have nothing special to show-as you claim to have-->and that would not be good for you ;)

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You aren't qualified to see my work.

Seen your work--dont need to be qualified to explain it.
The problem you have,is you do not understand your own work--that has always been your downfall.

 
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Yes, I was sent here to save people from the likes of you and copy paste junkie.  I know what I'm talking about, and it matters little to me that you don't.

What i see is a case of-->if you cant dazzle them with brilliance,then baffle them with bullshit. ;)

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I still say my video has more content than the 300 or so videos you've posted.  Many of them painfully long, too long, as you drag your ass through the scope and meter connections, you know the general ass kissing routine, police yourself bitch.  Keep those ducks in  line, because its so much more important to practice good measurement than it is to present a genuine original idea.

Your video showed what? .
You have no original idea's,as all that you do has been done before--and there is nothing special or magical about it. It is only your lack of understanding that make's it special to you.

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Yes, I was sent here to save people from the likes of you and copy paste junkie

And yet it is you that now has Hoptoad wasting his time on something that will achieve nothing--unless he wants a big bathroom heater.


Brad

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #115 on: August 11, 2016, 01:39:42 AM »



I get slammed by these two, and no one sheds a tear....to answer your question.....no....




Regards



Perhaps you may see why I posted this, certainly it is not out of sympathy for infered treatment. For this you have bought on yourself from your own actions!

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« Last Edit: August 11, 2016, 04:17:18 AM by EMJunkie »

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #115 on: August 11, 2016, 01:39:42 AM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #116 on: August 11, 2016, 02:25:32 AM »
Maybe a story might help, a long time ago in a land far away a man named Earnshaw developed a theorem. Earnshaw's theorem and he stated that "a collection of point charges cannot be maintained in a stable stationary equilibrium configuration solely by the electrostatic interaction of the charges". He also believed this applied to magnetic fields and everyone agreed one cannot balance or levitate one magnet on another. Then one day a clever inventor stumbled onto the fact that if the levitating magnet was spun like a top that in fact it could levitate in a stable manner. Some people believed Earnshaws theorem was an irrefutable law which had now been broken while some experts proclaimed the law was not broken. It was not broken because an extra force was present, the centrifugal force of the spinning top was present balancing the magnet and Earnshaws supposed law does not actually include extra forces only free floating charges and magnets. Thus a theorem or law may seem to always apply but only so long as the conditions applicable to the law do not change in any way.

This is very similar to the story of Lenz Law which states that "the current induced in a circuit due to a change or a motion in a magnetic field is so directed as to oppose the change in flux and to exert a mechanical force opposing the motion". Think about that... what does the Law actually say?. A changing magnetic field will induce a current in a circuit creating a second magnetic field which will oppose the first magnetic field change. It does not actually mention the source of the inducing magnetic field being opposed only the magnetic field itself being opposed. Thus a magnetic field source could create a rapidly changing magnetic field impulse then turn off before the field has had time to induce a current in the external circuit and the field source cannot be effected and Lenz Law has not been violated yet the external circuit would be induced by the field change after the source has turned off. Anything less would imply the field change has induced the target before it has actually reached the target which is absurd.

This is the problem with believing things which are not true and reading things into something which was never there nor implied to be there. Lenz said only the "inducing field" is opposed by the induced field no more no less.




AC, this is a very clever post.

Any and every Induced EMF, no matter how many times an Induced EMF occurs, in a single System, has an Effect of the Source, does it not?

But, if the Source is no longer a part of the System, switched out, then the Source is no longer affected, as you say.

How long can a Magnetic Field be kept High after Switch out of the Source?

In a super conductor, indefinitely, for ever in our terms, no Source, but Magnetic Field stays High... Electron’s keep going and going and going…

So the Source can change. Not necessarily the Polarity, depending on point of View, but the Location in the system can very easily be changed. This can be done many ways. A common way is to short one coil… This I know you are very well aware of.

One point of view does not make for any proof, how you term:


He also believed this applied to magnetic fields and everyone agreed one cannot balance or levitate one magnet on another. Then one day a clever inventor stumbled onto the fact that if the levitating magnet was spun like a top that in fact it could levitate in a stable manner.



A Postulate, everyone agrees, with no proof…  Although most experiments might hold, who’s to say one wont. After all, Charges are already in constant motion, all having their own Centrifugal forces… Thus making it true that a simple Magnet, will Violate Earnshaw's theorem before this experiment was even proposed - Surely we agree on this point?

There in lays the very basis of how we currently understand the Magnetic Field.

I was surprised to read this post.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #117 on: August 11, 2016, 02:39:02 AM »
@Erfinder
I have found truth generally comes to light by asking the right questions which may eventually reveal the truth. One cannot fight a pack of hyenas and win, you dig a pit, bait them and let the truth of their own nature produce the desired result.

I had an interesting question the other day, a friend said "thank God". I then said "oh you believe in God?"...*as everyone nearby who knows me rolled their eye's*. I then asked, "if you believe in a God because you cannot believe the universe always was and must have been created then what created God?". Personally, my not understanding why the universe exists seems more believable to me than believing a God created from nothing created the universe from nothing because there are many things I do not understand. However something from apparently nothing such as Gods, the Universe and Energy is generally where I draw the line.

AC



Beliefs are often a causal effect of one or more turns of events. I believe Richard Feynman said it best:


Some of us do the best we can, some do not, but if we have a grounded basis to proceed with, then what follows can be examined with some certainty, no belief enters the picture!


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #118 on: August 11, 2016, 02:44:49 AM »


 Masiha-->, gives you the desire to understand and help others with their problems but, at the same time, you can become too involved and worrying as the result.
 ::)


Lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeZ_F1op9N8&index=7&list=FLsLiBC2cL5GsZGLcj2rm-4w

You have no heart,only the desire to shoot down those that dont agree with you,and if you had half a brain,you'd be dangerous.

Well,we have all seen what you have--oh wait,no we havnt  ::)
The only reason we wont see anything from you,is because you know i could explain it away in a heartbeat,and it will conform to known science. That would mean you have nothing special to show-as you claim to have-->and that would not be good for you ;)

Seen your work--dont need to be qualified to explain it.
The problem you have,is you do not understand your own work--that has always been your downfall.

 
What i see is a case of-->if you cant dazzle them with brilliance,then baffle them with bullshit. ;)

Your video showed what? .
You have no original idea's,as all that you do has been done before--and there is nothing special or magical about it. It is only your lack of understanding that make's it special to you.

And yet it is you that now has Hoptoad wasting his time on something that will achieve nothing--unless he wants a big bathroom heater.


Brad




Hahahaha - Classically Funny and so true!!!

Beautiful!!!

Avenged!!!


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #119 on: August 11, 2016, 03:24:08 AM »
Just one comment
to my knowledge Milehigh is not banned , apparently Terms of use rules are being enforced ,and selective Moderation applied.
I know this moderation is annoying to Stefan as well as frustrating to members.

it would be better to stay within the agreed boundaries of the Forum rules.

respectfully

Chet

 

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