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Author Topic: Lenz free generator  (Read 378175 times)

Offline Magluvin

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #870 on: November 14, 2016, 10:33:14 AM »
Attached is the "concept" which has inspired thousands, indirectly.  The majority did not allow themselves the opprotunity to examine the source.  Preferring the spoon to mouth, only those parts, or specifically, that part which can be sourced back to "the concept" was prepared for them, and fed to them.  If you choose to examine the document and those which relate to it, understand that if you take it at face value expect failure.  Do not judge a book, this book, by its cover.  See it for what it is, and be accelerated into the unknown.

How this relates to the subject... I expect you will fill me in when you get there.....if you get here.

Also, this is a version of the circuit in a simpler depiction. It only has 1 cap and 1 large inductance, and this one is DC input with switching dependent on the gas engine rpm.

The idea behind it from what I understand is when the points switch is closed, the large inductance gets charged up, then when the switch opens, the large inductor charges the cap. Then when the switch closes again, the cap gets discharged into the spark coil primary, secondary delivers spark and the process starts all over. In a typical points system of today and apparently back then, the closure of the points puts the battery source across the spark primary directly, consuming lots of current from the battery during the on time, and when the points open, the field collapses and sec gets induced to spark. So from what I get it that this circuit is its more efficient than typical points systems as the large inductor does not consume as much in order to charge the cap.

There may be more to it than that if it can be used to produce ou.

Mags


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #870 on: November 14, 2016, 10:33:14 AM »

Offline tinman

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #871 on: November 14, 2016, 12:27:42 PM »

Oh give us a break, the secret government already has this technology (UFO's, weather control) and is already misusing it, why put the blame on us? It is just more, "blame the victim"


The point I was making is that we are being called stupid, yet in 82 pages you two have not posted ANY education material.


Ron

Hate to say it(ok,i dont hate to say it :D),but i told you so. ;)

Like i stated 80 pages back--same old- same old.
And in another 82 pages,there will still be a void of educational material--but lots of bathroom heaters.



Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #872 on: November 14, 2016, 12:38:10 PM »
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Offline forest

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #873 on: November 14, 2016, 04:35:55 PM »
Somehow the output is high current.Somehow the input is low current.Somehow the large condenser is depicted but we know that the flyback spike during disconnect of high inductance coil is HV low current, yet it will charge that cap or the picture is misleading and the cap is HV caps in paralell... ;D

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #874 on: November 14, 2016, 04:39:56 PM »
So can you charge say 20 HV caps from single spark ? So can you discharge them to get HF. So can you get the movement of energy in the MW oscillations. So can you collect 10% or use the way to collect more if you wish ?

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #875 on: November 14, 2016, 05:27:54 PM »
@IronI am not blaming you for your nature any more than I blame myself for mine, we own it. I'm just saying I think I understand human nature well enough from what I have observed to know some things are better left unsaid and undone.
I make observations, I have thoughts and sometimes I share my thoughts. I started with a question we all ask ourselves at some point...why is this not working for me?. What I found was that thing which was not working was ... me. My attitude, my motivation, the way I approach problems, all those pre-conceived notions I carry with me and a complete lack of clarity. I am not the one to help you find your answers my friend because you know yourself better than me.

AC


Not a problem AC, us canucks need to stick together. was just bad timing on your part.


I had come from the Matt/Dave scene (120 watts in and 800 watts out --- but I am not telling you) to take part in erfinders game of guess what I thought of? So you can imagine my existing level of frustration when you came on forum to say that you had overunity but where not going to tell us, LOL


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #876 on: November 14, 2016, 11:26:24 PM »

Mags,


I mean you no disrespect, please, try and understand that if I was offering what you think you know, I would be wasting both of our time.  Instead of considering what I gave you, you cheat yourself and find the same circuit in a simplified format.  Good luck finding what I am suggesting with that version of the circuit.


The application as presented in the documents is WINDOW DRESSING!  Open your eyes people, open your freakin minds.  See what is right in front of you.

Sometimes Teslas stuff is hard for people to comprehend the circuitry, at least, so the Igniter pat gives a more clear idea of what at least half of the circuit looks like.

We have been looking at these patents for some years now. Supposedly Tito sees what your talking about. But you guys are the only ones that I know of that claim they see it. So if we think a bit, there are many, many, that dont see it. Some have it and many dont for some reason.

Like do we have to build it as shown to see what we should see?

If i had it guys, Id blow it all out there so the many blind can see also. But I dont. Looks like we may be here for a few more years pondering I suppose.

Mags

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Offline allcanadian

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #877 on: November 15, 2016, 09:47:46 AM »
@Iron
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I had come from the Matt/Dave scene (120 watts in and 800 watts out --- but I am not telling you) to take part in erfinders game of guess what I thought of? So you can imagine my existing level of frustration when you came on forum to say that you had overunity but where not going to tell us, LOL

I hear you and I have followed more wild goose chases over the years than I would care to mention.

Personally I never had much success until I stopped following others and started doing my own thing. Do you know what the secret is?, it all starts with the concept. Look at Tesla, he imagined a rotating magnetic field and this single concept in itself helped drive an industrial revolution and create most of the power systems we use today. This is how the process of invention works, it starts with curiosity concerning a very simple concept like a rotating magnetic field and then we build upon this until it becomes something practical.

Look at what others do, they talk about coils of wires and magnetic fields and switching and weird transformers and equations and literature and diagrams but almost none have a solid concept to build on. For example one of my initial concepts was that if we charge two plates of a capacitor and one plate should suddenly cease to exist then the voltage on the other plate should instantly rise to a level few can imagine. It is a very simple concept... one plate simply appears to disappear and it does not matter how this change occurs only that it does. Then we take this simple concept and we expand upon it, what is a capacitor, how does it work and how do we make one plate perceive that the other plate is not there anymore. We are only limited by our imagination how we might do this however if we do not have the concept to build on then we have nothing.

To be honest I would say to hell with everyone here especially myself and pursue some thing you find interesting. Your success is not dependent on us it is dependent on you and your curiosity and your inspiration wherever you may find it. For me the process is always the same and it starts with... what is that, how does it work, what if I did this, or what if I did this instead, what would happen?.

AC

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #878 on: November 15, 2016, 10:59:33 AM »
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Hate to say it(ok,i dont hate to say it :D),but i told you so. ;)
Like i stated 80 pages back--same old- same old.
And in another 82 pages,there will still be a void of educational material--but lots of bathroom heaters.

Have you ever built Tesla's hairpin circuit?, it was the initial device which his therapeutic patents were based on. I cannot think of a better learning tool because it and other variations taught me many things most people cannot seem to wrap their mind around. You see a person could literally send hundreds of watts of power down conductors almost as small as a human hair to power a light bulb and the conductors never get hot...no bathroom heaters. You can grab the conductors and feel only a slight tingle and immerse the lit bulb under water and nothing seems to happen. It is completely counter-intuitive to what most expect and most people have real problems with it.

Do you know what the most surprising part was?, I could show this rather simple device to almost any of the experts I know and not a single one of them believed it initially. All believed it was some kind of trick or hoax and it was only after I explained the working principal that they believed it was real. Even more strange was that nobody and I do mean nobody clued into the most important aspect of the demonstration right in front of them. The very small conductors were carrying real power with almost no dissipation of energy which is about as close to a super conductor as we are most likely to find. The beginning of a truly lossless system only requiring the slightest of impetus to push it over into the realm of a free energy generator.

Did you learn something?.

AC

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #878 on: November 15, 2016, 10:59:33 AM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #879 on: November 15, 2016, 11:08:30 AM »
"losless" is wrong defined,who knows the energy input difference to reach N1,N2,N... material and system quality to get a over-1 gain result quantity is in search for a "lossarm" circuit concept !

Outer balancing 51:49 up to 79:21 Fleming/Lenz
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #880 on: November 15, 2016, 01:38:02 PM »
@Tinman
Have you ever built Tesla's hairpin circuit?, it was the initial device which his therapeutic patents were based on. I cannot think of a better learning tool because it and other variations taught me many things most people cannot seem to wrap their mind around. You see a person could literally send hundreds of watts of power down conductors almost as small as a human hair to power a light bulb and the conductors never get hot...no bathroom heaters. You can grab the conductors and feel only a slight tingle and immerse the lit bulb under water and nothing seems to happen. It is completely counter-intuitive to what most expect and most people have real problems with it.

Do you know what the most surprising part was?, I could show this rather simple device to almost any of the experts I know and not a single one of them believed it initially. All believed it was some kind of trick or hoax and it was only after I explained the working principal that they believed it was real. Even more strange was that nobody and I do mean nobody clued into the most important aspect of the demonstration right in front of them. The very small conductors were carrying real power with almost no dissipation of energy which is about as close to a super conductor as we are most likely to find. The beginning of a truly lossless system only requiring the slightest of impetus to push it over into the realm of a free energy generator.

Did you learn something?.

AC

Yes
The temperature of my coffee dropped .31*C while reading your post.


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #881 on: November 15, 2016, 02:58:54 PM »
Yes
The temperature of my coffee dropped .31*C while reading your post.


Brad

Wrong again it's not the temperature, it's the IQ. Ask your dog for an appointment, you need exercise.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #882 on: November 15, 2016, 10:56:47 PM »
Wrong again it's not the temperature, it's the IQ. Ask your dog for an appointment, you need exercise.

Ah yes
A thread full of hi IQ's--but nothing to show,other than many words.

Such wisdom  :D


Brad

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #883 on: November 16, 2016, 12:19:27 AM »
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Ah yes[/size]A thread full of hi IQ's--but nothing to show,other than many words.


I wouldn't say that, I invented a rock solid 99.99% passive magnetic bearing and disclosed it here in the forum. It works like nothing you have ever seen and people tell me it has great value. Also a while back a man named Dr.Stiffler and myself disclosed a HV self-oscillating circuit which a man called slayer made very popular. I believe he called it the slayer exciter which I invented years before he had even heard of such a thing.


So we do what we can when we can and when it slows down here this winter I plan on disclosing many other interesting devices I have invented. Not a problem I'm in no hurry.


AC

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #884 on: November 16, 2016, 12:47:03 AM »
First, Ron in the name of dire state of humanity you played the obscurantism card and when presented with a real schematic you perform canucks yodeling? Taking a pause from learning maybe?

The same schematic was proposed as basis of discussions related to the topic of the thread you opened Brad, and all you have say is this?
A thread full of hi IQ's--but nothing to show,other than many words.
That's low blow!

All you want is economic success and for that Hayek (an economist) said:
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“The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design.”


So now you that have Tesla's design nevertheless, run for the bank loan Brad!

 

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