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Offline i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #765 on: October 26, 2016, 05:20:32 PM »
I have had experiences with teachers that do not provide direct information on a topic, but they instead take you on a journey so that you will build the information up a layer at a time.

I do not think Erfinder will provide a "how-to" nor anything about the circuit he has produced and most likely not to much more about the coils he has wound.

All these things will fall out when the correct perspective is used to build something. (there may be more than one way to use the view and maybe the correct perspective can also be viewed from a few angles)

The cryptic answers and the sequence they are answered in I think will make sense once the perspective is seen,, that is when you go from one step to the next and then look back things might make sense.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4y5XrXA4aI&feature=youtu.be

Did you read the note?  Did you write down the numbers from the video and then listen to what was being said,, I know these sound bad but there are a few ways of hearing the information and interpreting it,, or not.

I take input and go over it a few times,, often what I first think about the input changes,, a few days may go by and reflecting on the input,, this is usually my own tests by the way,, I see something else that I did not see the first time.

Yes Dave that is true to a limited extent. But as this internet thingie is a "school" then in this case he is the teacher.

How many of the following concepts are being met?

1. A great teacher respects students.
 
 2. A great teacher creates a sense of community and belonging in the classroom.
 
 3. A great teacher is warm, accessible, enthusiastic and caring.
 
 4. A great teacher sets high expectations for all students.
 
 5. A great teacher has his own love of learning
 
 6. A great teacher is a skilled leader.
 
 7. A great teacher can “shift-gears"
 
 8. A great teacher collaborates with colleagues on an ongoing basis.
 
 9. A great teacher maintains professionalism in all areas


Again, in this case I am a "special needs" student as I need something visual. I have never been able to build something from hints or allusions. I well remember my days as an apprentice machinist when the boss would come up to me and ask me to make something--- he would take out his pen and draw a picture on the back of his hand... then turn and put his hands in his pockets and walk away, leaving me scratching my head???


 Yes I watched that link but where do the wires go? how is it connected? How do you 'know' the meter is connected to the transformer? How do you 'know' that it is a transformer? all you see is something white with two terminal strips either side? You are assuming,,,is this scientific? he never shows a complete picture. I have played around with this for days and have got nowhere.


I am aware that I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer but I object to being condemned to a life of stagnation and have registered my protest to the cruel and bulling comments made. The other day I was nearly to the point of going down to the shop and throwing everything into the garbage and calling it a day

Thanks for the comeback

Ron


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #765 on: October 26, 2016, 05:20:32 PM »

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #766 on: October 26, 2016, 10:04:05 PM »

Have you figured out what you want yet?


You have already told me what I want, did I argue?   ;)

Ron

 
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what I am trying to share that's what you really want.

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #767 on: October 26, 2016, 10:16:37 PM »
Quote from: Erfinder link=topic=15307.msg494493#msg494493 date=1477496442
Luc, 2015-02-05, I'm presently attempting a replication of Erfinder's multi-strand bucking generator coils which he has demonstrated in this video: http://vimeo.com/117820507


To illustrate my frustration I thought this would be a good introduction to your work. You actually state some numbers, but incompletely.
Then the video has been removed --- and Luc has gone off on a tangent having nothing to do with your work. Plus there seems to be no record  of anyone ever trying to replicate this experiment... hello? where do I start?


Ron

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« Reply #767 on: October 26, 2016, 10:16:37 PM »
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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #768 on: October 26, 2016, 11:45:03 PM »

Its difficult to contemplate and or discuss the what ifs with one whom is no longer in the position to have an exchange of ideas.  Unlike Lenz, his ideas were not "committed" to the volume which would later be referred to by all.


No he was not crazy, but he is not the subject.  To see what he was suggesting, we must comprehend that which has yet to be comprehended.  Do you have any idea why three coils is significant?  Why two will never do?


Regards




So how about these three coils...  Would two of these coils be similar to the two power windings of a magamp and then the third be your stator winding?  The stator winding positioned in the middle of the two power windings in order to 'float' it between two sources of varying impedance?


I've been thinking about parametric induction and how the induced current would affect the stator coil.  Interesting to think about.  Just got some mosfet drivers so I will begin to put together some tests.  After seeing your short video, I have lost my immediate interest in the transforming generator...


Dave

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #769 on: October 27, 2016, 01:35:43 AM »
Had a thought

Say we have a transformer that has say 1000 turn primary and a 10 turn sec.

The input voltage will be 100 times the sec voltage, but low amp in and high amps out.

Seems odd the sec can have this high current capability considering its voltage.  Is it that the electrons in the sec are more free to move at apparent low voltage potential?

I know. Its the primary that drives the sec current.  But maybe there is a way to take advantage of that sec full of easy to move electrons by figuring out a way of accelerating them as if there is higher voltage on the sec.

Just thoughts. had to write it down

Mags

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #770 on: October 27, 2016, 04:41:44 PM »

Now that that is out of the way, you didn't answer my question.  Did you find what you were looking for?  I told you what you really want, you dont know what that is...and if I shared that bit of info with you, it wouldn't make sense because you dont see things in the right light yet.

I am into vibration. For example I have, close by, two Ra rods and a Golden Light tube. They are 25 mm tubes cut to 150 mm and 385 mm. I made some coil forms for a sensitive in Alaska to aid his winding of Walter Russell's 33 degree coils.

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPbBE0OSkKt0h3JqfmUo4t2FITZX3cJQur7eLeeTK2f1RN0BWKQ3v-sgwiWiTtUTQ?key=am51NjRVeWRKVXo5MVJTYmJzSThRQnE4RjRjaWtR

I have read  some of Walter Russell's books and all of Wilbert Smith's work.

Obviously I have not found what I am looking for or I would be posting a unity or over unity device instead of seeking further answers.

The best I have been able to do so far is a COP 3 device, but it was not practical so didn't pursue it any further.

And while we are having a rational conversation --- what is the make of guitar in the video? Are you good? Do you have any youtube's? I would imagine your singing voice is right on.

Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #771 on: October 27, 2016, 06:34:35 PM »


I am interested ,I read Grumages' pdf sounds similar maybe I'm wrong.
Not trying to offend anybody just trying to learn.
Your posts are quite cryptic though.

artv

Dear shylo.

For the record.

That was not my pdf, I think Ron put it together.

Ron thanked me for showing him where dear Erfinder had posted on a topic I started on OUR forum.

http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2750.0

Kind regards, Graham.

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Offline i_ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #772 on: October 27, 2016, 08:38:38 PM »

Russell.....you should have thrown that name out earlier....  I have studied all available works....he did not leave us the solution....he did leave us with a superior way of looking at it when we do finally figure it out.


I'll send you a couple of links off list

Ron

EDIT: sorry guys, I didn't mean to make a secret out of this ... it is open source

https://youtu.be/_vO4HRXFQOw
« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 02:48:59 AM by i_ron »

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #773 on: October 28, 2016, 10:24:06 AM »
Hi Graham, I was aware it wasn't your pdf, I just thanked you for linking it.
So thanks Ron.
I just read your thread at OUR, I missed that somehow.
"The disruptive discharge of a condenser" That is part of the key I think especially when there are several other components in play at the same time.
If you discharge a capacitor (into a motor coil) ,it simply drains, if one side is connected to an alternate bank and the other side to a second alternate bank , both of which are being charged by generating coils that are being powered to motor by the draining cap, the charge seems to reinforce itself.
In that thread I think it was Matt that suggested that when energized, a coil is like a bunch of like poles repelling within the coil itself, I think he's right.
That to me  means more than one way to collect from an coil whether motoring or generating.
Thanks for linking that thread ,just wish it was still going.
artv

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #774 on: October 28, 2016, 08:21:22 PM »

... its (that which generated the wake) amplitude and frequency are recorded instantly in a coexisting substance ....

Is this what some would call the "back ground field"? 


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"The future is reactive, and no, I am not talking about the crippled single frequency shit that we are buried in when ever anyone brings up the subject of resonance and reactive power.  I know now that the truth is right here, right now, we are just too fucking stupid to get it.

Did we see this incorporated in the videos of your motor/generators?

Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #775 on: October 28, 2016, 09:52:38 PM »
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Yes.


could the RPM and the number of magnets be considered one frequency?


Ron

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #776 on: October 28, 2016, 10:24:55 PM »
At the Sund there is a sound like the Syrene singasong,similar the Martin horn,it is in the sonic sphere.
Going up and down and also down and up :the under -and overtones,remark this from the middleline
it is called thermal voltage also thermal noise and is to be seen as thermal oscillations,frequency serching to become the resonance phase like a PC software virus.


We manipulate and becomes manipulated by ever the e-m-k-f-spectrum,hell and dark matter space
                               it is a Tele-(wifi)actuating multidimensional energy field
                                               "Dream design to reality field"
                                                    w-y-d(ream)-i-w-y-g

                                              air core or virtual "winding" core
( look -this related- for the T.A.S.E.R. shot concept http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Bloodsport
"  Tasertron " ).

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #777 on: October 29, 2016, 04:15:30 AM »
@Erfinder

Regarding your video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWtcpdQ5h24&feature=youtu.be
Nice demo. Using the transformers in the setup, as shown, looks familiar.  :)
Cheers

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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #778 on: October 29, 2016, 07:36:31 AM »
I had one of those "whatever" moments so I used some ribbon cable to wind a coil.

I split a length of cable into a 2 wire strip and a 3 wire strip and wound them on a former like a capacitor.

I started with the 2 wire ribbon and then placed the 3 wire so that the middle wire of the 3 wire was in the middle of the 2 wire.  I also ran the 2 wire around one extra turn so that it was both on the bottom and the top.

9.5 inch former
12 wraps of 3
13 wraps of 2

When pulsing 20+ volts into the middle wire of the 3 wire cable the best I got out from all the others was about like 1.7V  I have not tried all combinations yet just a quick lets look and see.

This is air core.

Next I looked at the current when I had all the other wires in parallel and still stuffing the pulse in through the middle wire of the 3 wire ribbon,, 0.330A 18.8V,, not really caring about the voltage,, output was .089A straight into my meter.

Then I grabbed a ferrite E core from a transformer and placed a small part of the coil between the legs,, output went up to 0.094A,, grabbed a stack of metal E cores about the same thickness,, output went up to 0.102A,, grabbed a computer side cover and covered the one side of the entire core and then some,, output went down to 0.065A,, still want to try more things :)

Here is the coil and the side cover and E cores.


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Re: Lenz free generator
« Reply #779 on: October 29, 2016, 06:16:55 PM »



Mag amp experiments


Ron

 

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