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Title: Motionless generator
Post by: life is illusion on December 20, 2014, 07:17:45 PM
Hello everyone  :)

Here I show how to modify the motionless generator (Flynn concept) which was patented by Tom Bearden ( Patent number: US6362718B1). This modification will help this generator to go around Lenz's law and generate much higher power output. I hope you enjoy the vid. Please let me know what you think.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU_sylOTOFg&list=UUXEFFysykQp53qAVElhrAgg


Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: FatBird on December 21, 2014, 08:41:15 PM
We here on Overunity have seen HUNDREDS of design "THEORIES" & "EQUATIONS" through the years that DON'T work.

Go ahead & build it, THEN post the results so we can see if it works or not.
If it works we will thank you & PRAISE you to the sky.
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Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: life is illusion on December 21, 2014, 11:06:29 PM
Hey fatbird :)

So much anger ;) I'm not here to be admired or praised, just simply sharing and trying to learn :)
I started to post in here 3 days ago and I already see so much negativity and anger. Whats up in here? How many of "people" in here are normal people who try to learn and how many are the agents? ;) :D
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: Madeo on December 22, 2014, 12:57:12 AM
Hi Life,


Thanks for posting your stuff. I've been  lurking in the forums for years, but it's only the past few months that i started posting in here and the resistance you encounter is something to be expected nowadays. You should browse the "News" section here and you'll see what I mean.


Anyways, I had experimented with Flynn concept couple years ago and it didn't work. The reason is LENZ law. Whenever I did try to switch the magnetic path to the other side  (using flip/flop system),  the CEMF prevents it from actually switching magnetic paths.


For a solid state system,  I think Flynn is not gonna be an easy thing to solve. The only way that I could think of to address this is to have a switching mechanism that turns on and fully turn off  (collecting BEMF in the process)  and then have the field switch to the other path.  Unfortunately, it required a more sophisticated electronics than i was willing to invest something like a microprocessor.


Cheers :)



Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: life is illusion on December 22, 2014, 01:54:12 AM
Hello Madeo :)

Thank you for commenting :) I totally understand what you mean, but the bypass that I have installed in this design in parallel with the pick up coil might solve this problem. When you are taking the N pole of magnet away, the upper part of solenoid will generate S pole which will try to suck the N pole back, but at the same time, the other side of coil will generate N pole which through the bypass will attract the generated S pole on the upper side of solenoid. We should also keep in mind that we have driver coils installed on the line to suck back the N pole. In case if this didn't work, I guess we can locate a diode on the solenoid which will only pick up the electricity generated by incoming N pole and when N pole is leaving, it keeps the coil open and no current will flow, thus no magnetic field will be generated to stop the N pole to move away :)
And about the resistance; Don't worry my friend, I am the real resistance, these guys are either idiots or payed agents trying to stop the positive change :D

Best Regards
Sam
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: Madeo on December 22, 2014, 02:33:13 AM
Oh yea,  i didn't realize you have a "bypass" path for the secondary coils.  It's similar concept to Thane Heinz transformer.  I watched it earlier with no audio and didn't see that you addressed the LENZ problem. Your theory is pretty good.

I saw a video some years ago that a core was built using Iron powder and resin mixed together.  I kept it in mind just in case. Your model  could be built using that process.
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: ElectricPirate on December 22, 2014, 06:34:34 AM
It will not work. why?
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: life is illusion on December 22, 2014, 12:55:15 PM
Magnetic current will always take the shortest path, so N1 will go through solenoid core and not through the bypass. The exact moment when N2 is generated, IF it pushes the N1 towards the bypass, the N2 will die itself because its existence depends on the incoming N1. Thus The moment N1 goes towards bypass, the path of solenoid core will be free of resistance and N1 again will take the shortest path :) 
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: ElectricPirate on December 22, 2014, 04:18:10 PM
Build it now so we can see the results.  ;D

I am thinking thanes hanes bitoriod. I think his bit can be simplified by the second and third picture.

Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: Madeo on December 23, 2014, 08:39:25 AM
Oh man,  this thread has gotten me interested in Thane Heinz' bitoroid transformer. I have ignored it for years because I didn't think it was going to be a "free energy" device.  I considered it to be more of a super efficient transformer still with a COP <1. However, if this was applied with the Flynn concept,  it may have the potential to do something fun.. I love solid state devices. It's really my goal to build something along that line.



Update:  After analyzing your current design,  I think the magnetic field will bypass the secondary coils altogether since it will present a resistance due to LENZ.
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: life is illusion on December 23, 2014, 11:09:31 AM



Update:  After analyzing your current design,  I think the magnetic field will bypass the secondary coils altogether since it will present a resistance due to LENZ.

Dear Madeo, I'm glad you find it interesting and I hope you could make this device and test it :) As I said in my previous comment, Magnetic current will always take the shortest path, so N1 will go through solenoid core and not through the bypass. The exact moment when N2 is generated, IF it pushes the N1 towards the bypass, the N2 will die itself because its existence depends on the incoming N1. Thus The moment N1 goes towards bypass, the path of solenoid core will be free of resistance and N1 again will take the shortest path :)

Best Regards
Sam
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: Madeo on December 24, 2014, 03:45:23 AM
you are correct that it will take the shortest path, but the current induced in the secondary will be minimal because lenz will push N1 (or a fraction of it) to the bypass section of the core. If N1 is not allowed to push through N2 completely then it cannot induce the current in N2 like you want it to. You said it yourself that N2 will die down during this process and that will kill the output.You should study Thane Heins transformer. He addressed this problem without the losses.


The biggest challenge in this project is finding or constructing an efficient core. This is not something anybody can easily build over the weekend.
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: life is illusion on December 31, 2014, 11:46:53 AM
Hello friends :)

According to the recent findings on the subject of "Lenz free generator" ( http://overunity.com/15308/lenz-free-generator-a-different-pulse-motor/#.VKPSo3u4KVc), now it seems even more possible that this model can deliver a better and higher energy output. Anyone out there willing to test the shunt on his/her motionless generator and share the results with rest of us? :) Would be great if you could use iron oxide powder or ferrite core so we could increase the frequency :) 

Best Regards
Sam
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: TheOne on July 11, 2015, 05:01:57 AM
I remember the radus boots patents


[size=78%]I think the solution for the lenz law is to make the core not in one piece but in 3, so you put some kind of paper between the 2 cores where the output coil is.[/size]
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: verpies on July 11, 2015, 11:18:58 AM
Magnetic current will always take the shortest path, 
No, magnetic flux will be distributed among all paths, proportionally to their permeances (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeance#Electromagnetism) .
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: kEhYo77 on July 11, 2015, 12:07:09 PM
I posted this somewhere, not tested yet :)
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: TheOne on July 13, 2015, 12:44:12 AM
I made a program to control 2 PWM on a raspberry 2, I will need to test if that work well but with the PI and 2 x N3055 transistor I should be able to have a max frequency of 1-2 Mhz


I don't know if magnetite can handle it :)




Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: TheOne on July 15, 2015, 03:07:19 AM
the raspberry PI2 work very well so far, at the begining I was wondering how to have 2 PWM with different phase for each PWM but
I finally find how to handle it, instead of using phase on PWM (does not work on PI anyway with hardware PWM) I will use
one AND gate and one INVERTER gate before the transistor.


PWM1 (frequency defined): when ON the pulse go to the 2N3055 transistor


PWM2 (frequency defined x 2): [/size]
- Connected to the AND GATE
- INVERTER GATE is connected to PWM1 and the AND GATE
- When PWM1 is OFF, INVERTER GATE is ON and when PWM2 is ON, the pulse go on the second transistor 2N3055


Do you think it will work well?


I have the program, you can change the frequency/duty cycle in real time, if someone want it I will add the file, tested on Raspberry Pi 2 with ubuntu mate but should work on raspian and problably able to work on Raspberry Pi1 but Pi2 is better can go higher with the PWM.


In a future version I will add file configuration so we can save the latest value used, it is done in C++.


I wanted to have full control over frequency and duty cycle, in theory you only need 1% duty cycle on the input coil and it is supposed to keep his field even when the input coil is off, so instead of wasting current on input coil, it is better to be close as soon as possible...
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: seychelles on December 17, 2015, 03:26:39 PM
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Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: seychelles on December 17, 2015, 03:40:49 PM
so i am here asking for help .the reason i am asking for help
is to save some time and money..will this circuit generate electricity..
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: seychelles on December 17, 2015, 03:48:53 PM
the crescendo will be powered up by these two circuits boards..
one is a light scanning and a opto relay board, with the relays replaced by mosfets..
Title: Re: Motionless generator
Post by: seychelles on December 17, 2015, 04:02:04 PM
AND THE HIGH CURRENT MEG BY THIS CIRCUIT BOARD..