Oh the data...
You mean like all the data and video from the navy fighter jet tracking a real UFO with military grade sensor technology?.  The video and the data do not lie.

Yeah! you need a demonic power for that, buy a swann security system with IR cameras put one in your living room and bedroom
and see what you pick up  that going put the shits up you!

Hey Conrad,

What part of unidentified don't you understand?  That video and many many personal sightings all have the same thing in common.  The objects are UNIDENTIFIED.  Do you get it?  They are called UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECTS.  That means they are not IDENTIFIED.  So why do you keep insisting that UFOs do not exist?

Respectfully,
Carroll

You have entangled me in a nice word game.

I do indeed understand that these are unidentified flying objects. But I do not understand why one knows that these objects are from another planet or are piloted by aliens or are fabricated by aliens. This is what some claim and what I dispute. The "navy fighter videos" do not allow to draw the conclusion that the word "unidentified" means "alien or extraterrestrial in any way". I might well be, but one can not derive it logically from these videos.

But it is not my task to convince a believer that his belief is not proven. Belief needs no proof.

But if Caroll wants to win an argument, he shall win. I am sure he can prove everything he claims with many words.

Greetings, Conrad

Conrad

I do not understand why you always write abut these "navy fighter videos". I looked at them and I see that SOMETHING takes off at high speed. But nobody can know WHAT that was.

So, dream whatever you want, but be reasonable. You can not extract more data from the videos than SOMETHING was there, the rest is speculation. You may speculate, but that is not knowing.

Yes, it is my fault that I react to your speculations. I will shut up.

Why would you shut up?, you asked a reasonable question not involving gods or evil demons... well done, carry on.

I would agree it is video from a modern military jet of an object or craft seen moving at high speed. However I believe that from the sensor/video data which includes velocity, direction etc. they concluded it was moving at around 20,000 mph or so. Do you see the problem?, yes it was a craft of some sort which may or may not have been piloted by who knows what. That is not the point, we have data thus facts to prove there are unidentified craft doing things which defy our understanding of physics similar to free energy... this is my point.

Sure some connect UFO's and aliens however I have never seen an alien only a UFO so I do not know if aliens exist. Personally I think people lose it when someone say's "alien" because the supposed aliens would obviously know all about our past... wink, wink. You know, our beginning, the god religion debate, dinosaurs, pyramids and all the other stuff. So if aliens did exist obviously they would represent a real threat to most peoples beliefs because they would know the real truth about our past versus all the nonsense most believe.

So nobody wants to open that can of worms because it's kind of like star treks prime directive. Only in this case the aliens are captain kirk and we are the semi primates basically cowering in the dark afraid of our own shadow. Do you think capain kirk would piss his pants and start shooting at something he didn't understand, case closed. You see if one is going to claim to be an advanced race then one must act like it while we generally act more tribal like apes.

Regards


 

Conrad
Why would you shut up?, you asked a reasonable question not involving gods or evil demons... well done, carry on.

I would agree it is video from a modern military jet of an object or craft seen moving at high speed. However I believe that from the sensor/video data which includes velocity, direction etc. they concluded it was moving at around 20,000 mph or so. Do you see the problem?, yes it was a craft of some sort which may or may not have been piloted by who knows what. That is not the point, we have data thus facts to prove there are unidentified craft doing things which defy our understanding of physics similar to free energy... this is my point.

Sure some connect UFO's and aliens however I have never seen an alien only a UFO so I do not know if aliens exist. Personally I think people lose it when someone say's "alien" because the supposed aliens would obviously know all about our past... wink, wink. You know, our beginning, the god religion debate, dinosaurs, pyramids and all the other stuff. So if aliens did exist obviously they would represent a real threat to most peoples beliefs because they would know the real truth about our past versus all the nonsense most believe.

So nobody wants to open that can of worms because it's kind of like star treks prime directive. Only in this case the aliens are captain kirk and we are the semi primates basically cowering in the dark afraid of our own shadow. Do you think capain kirk would piss his pants and start shooting at something he didn't understand, case closed. You see if one is going to claim to be an advanced race then one must act like it while we generally act more tribal like apes.

So nobody wants to open that can of worms because it's kind of like star treks prime directive. Only in this case the aliens are captain kirk and we are the semi primates basically cowering in the dark afraid of our own shadow. Do you think capain kirk would piss his pants and start shooting at something he didn't understand, case closed. You see if one is going to claim to be an advanced race then one must act like it while we generally act more tribal like apes.

Yeah Death Vader Reticulli, aren’t we supposed to be mates with them from Planet Serpio.
Din’t you watch full metal jacket ? Them with guns need em shoving up there where the sun don’t shine cus it's revealed
They all cheared in the cinama when that GI shot loud mouth sargent bully more !l
loads of psycho countries with Norman Bates type control invested in Sars and (Covid-bat 19).