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lancaIV

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #675 on: December 22, 2019, 08:00:41 PM »

ramset

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #676 on: December 23, 2019, 12:31:01 AM »
Yeesh,Lanca Maybe raise the  Bar a little bit
how about starting an Org like Green Peace for FE ?
not so Much "Burning man" .... real science, real results and most of all WORKERS !!builders... experimenters etc etc etc
so far... we only have one planet ...lets fix things

just a note on your link of ancient living things on the planet ...nothing really over 12000 years
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Ffotostrecke%2Furalte-lebensformen-mehr-als-2000-jahre-auf-dieser-welt-fotostrecke-58110-2.html
12000 year solar micro nova   "rinse and repeat" cycle
??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqeaD-Cv8L4

sm0ky2

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #677 on: December 23, 2019, 03:45:13 AM »
[quote author=ramset link=topic=15158.msg541247#msg541247 date
how about starting an Org like Green Peace for FE ?




Didn’t Stephan already do that ?

lancaIV

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #678 on: December 23, 2019, 10:43:02 AM »
"BURNING MAN" ? http://hexayurt.com/
The old scene did something Free Research for off-grid living,the new BM is today more a Media Event !
We have some FE devices but which is for whom appropriate.  ?
Stationary/fixed living or making part from the "urban nomad"-society. ?

DC or AC micro-grid

100 Watt perpetuum generating,1000 Watt perpetuum,......
With small/middle/huge battery storage. ?

The conversion project as DIY-plan/scheme with know-how instructions in words + images/ pictures. ?
Used parts recycling/refurbishing and/or new industrial materials. ?

Conventional batteries ( used electric car batteries recyle) or :


Metal powder battery

http://translationportal.epo.org/emtp/translate/?ACTION=description-retrieval&COUNTRY=DE&ENGINE=google&FORMAT=docdb&KIND=A1&LOCALE=en_EP&NUMBER=4222678&OPS=ops.epo.org/3.2&SRCLANG=de&TRGLANG=en
Bio-material- battery

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What is the specific consumer his idea/plan/project ?
Which his investment limit ? His motivation/handcraft skills limit. ?

Alone releasing or as local group member !?

Which his minimum and maximum Watt peak per hour and per day wish/demand  ?!
Which his climate area : hot desert or humid arctic/ cold ocean near. ?

After more than 30 years existence :
 have GREENPEACE,ROBINWOOD and other ECO-groups with thousands of members soon an :

off-grid /sustainable living handbook ( with all instructions and parts deliverer references/sources. ?

Before/later -comparison examples. ?

A cooperation with such "social eco-villages" worldwide as "teste and success/error approvation field" https://www.tamera.org/ whose habitants will approve new concepts and new methods/techniques. ?

A cooperation with SOS-Kinderdorf with thousands of organized villages. ?
Do they not also wish "free water/free energy/free.... " concepts and work later as local/national e-missionaer?


                           ECO-peace path finder

Chet, how and when you will find your search/found " peace"  ?

ramset

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #679 on: December 23, 2019, 02:10:26 PM »
Smokey,Not sure I ever read about Stefan having an Org ,read his mission Statement plenty !!Lanca takes "hands on" one reaching out for the next .I had read ...you will know them by their works ?
not by their walls...
a truth below.
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A traveler came upon an old farmer hoeing in his field beside the road. Eager to rest his feet, the wanderer hailed the countryman, who seemed happy enough to straighten his back and talk for a moment. "What sort of people live in the next town?" asked the stranger.
 "What were the people like where you've come from?" replied the farmer, answering the question with another question.
 "They were a bad lot.  Troublemakers all, and lazy too.  The most selfish people in the world, and not a one of them to be trusted.  I'm happy to be leaving the scoundrels."
 "Is that so?" replied the old farmer.  "Well, I'm afraid that you'll find the same sort in the next town.
 Disappointed, the traveler trudged on his way, and the farmer returned to his work.
 Some time later another stranger, coming from the same direction, hailed the farmer, and they stopped to talk.  "What sort of people live in the next town?" he asked.
 "What were the people like where you've come from?" replied the farmer once again.
 "They were the best people in the world.  Hard working, honest, and friendly.  I'm sorry to be leaving them."
"Fear not," said the farmer.  "You'll find the same sort in the next town
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Lanca ....Peace ?
do the next "right" thing ,

you want to change the World ?"Be" that change
Chet K

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #680 on: December 23, 2019, 05:32:41 PM »
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I never understood wind. I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody.

I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous – if you are into this – tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?

You want to see a bird graveyard? You just go take a look. A bird graveyard? Go under a windmill someday, a windmill will kill many bald eagles after a certain number, they make you turn the windmill off, that is true. By the way, they make you turn it off. And yet, if you killed one, they put you in jail. That is OK. But why is it OK for windmills to destroy the bird population.

Amazing isn't it, and if one were reading this for the first time we might think it was a person who was mentally retarded, has some kind of mental illness or substance abuse issues. However strangely enough many people saw fit to elect Trump a mentally deranged individual as there leader. One has to wonder what these people who elected him were thinking and how we got to this level of barbarism?.

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You want to change the World ?"Be" that change

I am invoking change by informing the world how morally bankrupt and mentally deranged Trump and his kind are. In my opinion the first step is to remove these imbeciles from power because they would never allow Free Energy or any revolutionary clean technology. I am also changing the world by withholding FE technology while degenerates like Trump and his kind hold power as a matter of principal.

As Gustav Le Bon said..."The masses have never thirsted after truth. They turn aside from evidence that is not to their taste, preferring to deify error, if error seduce them. Whoever can supply them with illusions is easily their master; whoever attempts to destroy their illusions is always their victim."

The truth is that the majority of mankind is simply not ready to evolve and they have proven as much through there own actions. You see every action has a reaction and if everyone makes the choice to empower mentally deranged populists like Trump then I and others will continue to make the choice to withhold advanced technology. There is no free lunch and you must be the change as well.


lancaIV

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #681 on: December 23, 2019, 06:26:41 PM »
For autonomous and sustainable living here the scheme :
https://www.empa.ch/de/web/self/system
What from these devices each stationary/mobile private household does have/-does need/- does demand. ?

Hmm, "no waste management" ? waste2energy for example. !?

ramset

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #682 on: December 23, 2019, 07:34:25 PM »
FE will take waste mgmt and water conservation to unheard of levels


OnePower
So the Mensa supreme being HeMan woman haters club weekly meeting went badly today ?


Next time you come in here
Read the sign on the door!


Elitists World domination meeting/card game is Thursday nights two doors down .
Thx
Chet
PS
You shouldn’t run around with your hair on fire in Stefan’s place ...
We’re supposed to be cutting back on the burning stuff !








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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #683 on: December 23, 2019, 09:39:38 PM »
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So the Mensa supreme being HeMan woman haters club weekly meeting went badly today ?
Elitists World domination meeting/card game is Thursday nights two doors down .
You shouldn’t run around with your hair on fire in Stefan’s place ...
We’re supposed to be cutting back on the burning stuff !

Chet, the problem with this kind of "projection" which is right out of the Trump playbook is that it is built on the lowest form of false reasoning. It states that being intelligent and believing in things which are factually justifiable are bad. Thus it also implies that ignorance and irresponsible actions must be good which is obviously not true. This is how people like Trump are able to dumb down the conversation to the most primitive level and gaslight others.

No facts, no debate, no justification for a statement or given belief just a toxic word salad meant to dehumanize other people and push a false narrative. This is why Trumps statements are degenerate always degrading the better qualities of logic, reason, honesty and integrity.
No offense but your better than this and so am I.

Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #684 on: December 24, 2019, 02:14:22 AM »
 Edit
I removed some comments.


 Have a merry Christmas !


And May this new year be the “one “


Chet K










« Last Edit: December 24, 2019, 12:12:38 PM by ramset »

lancaIV

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #685 on: December 24, 2019, 10:57:00 AM »
Chet, by all our lifeexperience we are different. !
And often a society change only happens by drastical demands !
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/environment/2019/07/major-us-cities-will-face-unprecedente-climates-2050/

Fire in California,Brazil,Australia and drough in several regions world-wide with harvest failure  and for the other side strong rainfalls and floods :

yes,fire and floods when streams are overboarding are known since centuries but not these growing human population numbers and concentrated densities.and building constructions in known risc zones  !

We can not do the professional and paid work of others and it is also not our demand by several ethical concepts !We can warn or show alternatives !

Chet,FE is one solution key,but only one of manies  !
The FE generator only does not change the total society orientation and will probably bring more confusion than solution to some "old style economies" !

A "Merry Christmas" !
« Last Edit: December 24, 2019, 04:56:27 PM by lancaIV »

Raycathode

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #686 on: December 24, 2019, 05:17:07 PM »
Chet talking of Zeropoint energy Someone might have been Mr Carol pointed to some old circuits of John Badini
or was it, Ronald Cole? series-parallel battery charger, I can't find it now (that thread but it looked interesting labeled Scalar Wave Controler and a Scalar Batter Charger it uses a two-stage solid switch arrangement ie Q1 and Q2 for the Parallel series switching circuit.

If you look at the circuit you could easily cut out 2 or 3 of the chips by using a IR2153 Osc and 50/50 +Q & -Q and a MC161 2x Opto device  if you're clever
if you're also really into being a (dab hand builder) you could improve on the power switchers and Cap charger circuit by using P & N chan MosFets.

PS the charge caps could be expensive 33kufd x2

have fun and ain't it the winter solstice its, when the sun stops or dies on the southern cross for 3 days, sounds like easter to me and what shepherds are going to be with staying out with their flocks in this weather when they aren't lambing, only in America eh!  ;)

https://www.greenoptimistic.com/john-bedinis-scalar-wave-battery-charger-20080206/

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #687 on: December 24, 2019, 05:35:55 PM »
Here in the U.S., we actually love heavy rainfall and flooding


We have damned our rivers and when it rains:::


We get free energy. (Well “we” don’t, but the people who sell it to us do)


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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #688 on: December 24, 2019, 07:34:56 PM »
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Here in the U.S., we actually love heavy rainfall and flooding
We have damned our rivers and when it rains:::
We get free energy. (Well “we” don’t, but the people who sell it to us do)

Obviously your not a farmer or producer, heavy rainfall and flooding washes away the top soil and destroys crops as well as increasing crop diseases. Do you like food?.

It also causes the massive runoff of insecticides, herbicides, fertilizers, chemical waste and large amounts of fecal matter or shit. Which may explain why most rivers and other inland water bodies in the U.S. have become the equivalent of toxic waste. Which also explains the high contamination rate of produce coming from the U.S. and your losing customers.

It's not cool my friend it's just sick.


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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #689 on: December 24, 2019, 09:25:58 PM »
smoky2
Obviously your not a farmer or producer, heavy rainfall and flooding washes away the top soil and destroys crops as well as increasing crop diseases. Do you like food?.

It also causes the massive runoff of insecticides, herbicides, fertilizers, chemical waste and large amounts of fecal matter or shit. Which may explain why most rivers and other inland water bodies in the U.S. have become the equivalent of toxic waste. Which also explains the high contamination rate of produce coming from the U.S. and your losing customers.

It's not cool my friend it's just sick.


Managing floodwater individually or on a local scale is generally left up to the landowner.
Large waterways, are governed by the Army Corp of Engineers
Who might be the world’s foremost authority on water management since the Romans.