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lancaIV

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #660 on: December 20, 2019, 08:45:35 PM »
Chet,  - I,as "single"  - can be flexible, in my own future vision and life orientation !
Grand-/parents related their childs not. !
Off-grid-living : ex-"Jade Mountain" in the 90' later known "realgoods" has got free information. :
https://realgoods.com/

https://realgoods.com/blog/cat/off-grid-living/

For example : https://realgoods.com/blog/are-tiny-houses-good-for-long-term-living/
Is there a difference between a "van,trailer, camper, RV, mobil-home" and a " tiny house/home". ?

              WHAT  makes the difference : sqm/sqft or bath/kitchen and equipment. ?

https://rqriley.com/diy-projects-plans/
https://www.glen-l.com/glen-l-rv-plans/

Is this a "tiny house" or soon a "thicky-dicky house" !?
https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=1&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19860502&CC=FR&NR=2572437A1&KC=A1#


For" sustainable living " ,at first as information source recommended :

https://www.motherearthnews.com/



The citizens can in future develop in the sub-urbs something what is called in Germany
                                                   " (Dr.)  Schreber-Garten"-Siedlung
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.urbanlife.de%2Fleben-und-genuss%2Fitem%2F38-geschichte-der-schrebergaerten.html
                                                            or (Klein-) "Garten"-Siedlung

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2Furl%3Fq%3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fde.m.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKleingarten%26sa%3DU%26ved%3D2ahUKEwi48KrY_MTmAhVoxoUKHahWAqwQFjAOegQIAhAB%26usg%3DAOvVaw3E9qG5PiXpfAhp2olvvbpm


This are "green villages"  initiated with social, political, economical interests, in the 19th./20th  century this movement from over-filled cities and less green zones/own city-garden began
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.dw.com%2Fde%2Fwo-deutsche-sich-zuhause-f%25C3%25BChlen-der-deutsche-schrebergarten%2Fav-49616311
The governments now under eco-NGO-observation and Climate-contracts targets dictation :

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Fwissenschaft%2Fmensch%2Fniederlande-klimaaktivisten-siegen-gegen-eigene-regierung-a-1302412.html
A New Wind   ::)

onepower

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #661 on: December 21, 2019, 12:53:54 AM »
smoky2
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We know how to build a habitat that is so thermally efficient we don’t even need an a/c system
But we don’t, because it’s too much work or not industry ready or whatever excuse we use to keep
doing the same crap.....
We need a leader with some degree of oversight to see the bigger picture
Not just the dollars in their pocket

https://thetyee.ca/Mediacheck/2019/09/30/Endless-Growth-Fairy-Tales-Will-Destroy-Us/
 “We are at the beginning of mass extinction, and all you can talk about is money and fairy tales of eternal economic growth,” Thunberg said.

Apparently even a little girl has more reasoning skills than most boomers.

Low and behold the truth has been spoken, endless growth and consumption is not sustainable
and that which cannot be sustained must soon come to an end. No math or equations or alternative facts
are needed because it's so in your face obvious even a fool should be able to understand it. Which begs the
question why so many cannot seem to understand it?.

What part of not sustainable do people not understand... wft?.





ramset

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #662 on: December 21, 2019, 01:48:47 AM »
Oh a Wise child ??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqeaD-Cv8L4
extinction ? from a few members paying attention

2046



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=er5rWyoL9M0

 

did not mean to interrupt latest group Hug ...extinction [trigger word for new science news ?

sm0ky2

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #663 on: December 21, 2019, 02:18:40 AM »
First: it is impossible for the Human Species to go extinct.
We put fail safe’s in place in 1949 and have continued to enhance them.


Second: the sustainability of our planet hinges on one thing and one thing only:


Free Energy

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #664 on: December 21, 2019, 07:56:17 AM »

lancaIV

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #665 on: December 21, 2019, 09:37:17 AM »
If  I look over the world  I think that in many places there is more than  enough free natural energy but the need of free drinkable water !
And freewater for plants growth ! And for the cattle.

But we have a problem : the G7 countries are producing surplus agricultury goods and are exporting these,subsidized by their economical system,to many no industrialized countries their markets and take their habitants the chance to earn by fair market prices !

We diminished in the industrial estates  in the last  75 years more than 80%  the human work need per ha land
for agriculture goods but had the possibility to bring this workpower and rural habitants working in modern sectors and services !

The emerging markets will parallel use in their developments the A.I.and 3d print techology as we are doing. !
But as we see in the spanish south : up to 50% disemployment will be in seasonal branches dependent regions( agro/tourism) yearly average. !

If the governs think that this is administrateable they have to work fast and right :
anymore capitalism or communism is the opponent but ANARCHY :
from 50% young people in disemployment only 1/5 organized as " gangs" is in number greater than the estatal police and militar their members. !

Free weapons and free drugs are the next great problem for multi-millions of parents worldwide  !
And this gangs works cruel ,forget humanism and Genf-convention. !
And : racketeering will become normal in future for each citizen -worldwide
A new kind of"Freibeuter/Piratery", the ancient pirates their signs they show us : tatoo and the earring


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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #666 on: December 21, 2019, 11:24:20 AM »
Lanca v it comes down to bad leadership. It comes down to who gives a shit as long I am ok
mate. It comes down to the fucked up political system of this world. We the sheeple vote those DIABOLIC
in and then they just come up with those grandiose projects that do not get us humanity anywhere. Eg we went to the moon, what the hell for. We entrusted our government to blow up the great towers in New York just to start a war in Iraq and Afganistan. Billion of dollars wasted in military bombs and all destructing invention while our planet's ocean is being used a trash can..We the SHEEPLE ARE MORE ENTRENCHED IN OUR SPORT MANIA THAN GIVING A SHIT WHAT OUR DIABOLIC LEADERS ARE DOING..
Jesus came 2019 years ago as a messenger to warn us, who is listening ..WE ARE NOT OF THIS BODY BUT OF THIS SOUL THAT RESIDE IN THIS BODY. Australia is burning right now but we have plenty of rivers up north that just goes to the oceans..
These Diabolics stop from the pensioner's coffer just to follow America fighting in Iraq.

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #667 on: December 21, 2019, 12:56:57 PM »
Lanca and Seychelles: There is a new kind of "Freibeuter/Piratery" without tatoo and earring. It's not only bad leadership in a fucked up and bankrupt political system.

Coined in 1990 by poet, anarcho-immediatist and Sufi scholar Hakim Bey, the term temporary autonomous zone (T.A.Z.) seeks to preserve the creativity, energy and enthusiasm of autonomous uprisings without replicating the inevitable betrayal and violence that has been the reaction to most revolutions throughout history. The answer, according to Bey, lies in refusing to wait for a revolutionary moment, and instead create spaces of freedom in the immediate present whilst avoiding direct confrontation with the state.

A T.A.Z. is a liberated area “of land, time or imagination” where one can be for something, not just against, and where new ways of being human together can be explored and experimented with. Locating itself in the cracks and fault lines in the global grid of control and alienation, a T.A.Z. is an eruption of free culture where life is experienced at maximum intensity. It should feel like an exceptional party where for a brief moment our desires are made manifest and we all become the creators of the art of everyday life.

The key, suggests Bey, is to remain mobile, relying on stealth and the ability to melt into the darkness at a moment’s notice. Before the T.A.Z is spotted and recognized by the state, which will inevitably seek to crush it, it dissolves and moves on, reappearing in unexpected places to celebrate once again the wonders of conviviality and life outside the law. It might last hours, days, years even, depending on how quickly it is noticed by authorities.

Bey claims that T.A.Z.s have always existed. He sees their ancestry in the numerous liberated zones that pepper history: from the secret “state” of the medieval Persian Assassins to the eighteenth century pirate utopias — islands where buccaneers, escaped slaves and convicts lived outside the law, sharing goods and property. From the radical communes of Paris and Munich to the dissatisfied colonizers of North America who deserted their enclave to join Native American communities, leaving the infamous sign behind them, “Gone to Croatan.”

It is hard to conclude that also the parasites of the financial markets, multi-nationals and such, the strategy of the T.A.Z. are using to gain bizarre profits for their own.



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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #668 on: December 21, 2019, 05:50:11 PM »
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Free weapons and free drugs are the next great problem for multi-millions of parents worldwide  !
And this gangs works cruel ,forget humanism and Genf-convention. !
And : racketeering will become normal in future for each citizen -worldwide
A new kind of"Freibeuter/Piratery", the ancient pirates their signs they show us : tatoo and the earring

Strange that were all just good honest hard working people but the drug market in countries like the U.S. is measured in hundreds of billions of dollars. The statistics say the U.S. and Russia are hard core drug users like no where else on the planet which may also explain there obsession with guns. The facts would seem to paint a very different picture of society than most people claim.

As I said, while science and technology have come a long way people in general and there mind set have not evolved so much. I mean if we really were "responsible adults" then we wouldn't need mountains of drugs and alcohol and a closet full of automatic weapons would we?. Admitting we have a problem is the first step towards finding a solution and moving forward in my opinion. 


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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #669 on: December 22, 2019, 07:47:32 AM »
A little food for thought...

Recent droughts in Australia may be the worst in 800 years which have now caused an unprecedented number of bush fires as seen below. Apparently the land is being ravaged by wild fires as well as a heat wave and all the major cities have been filled with toxic levels of smoke for weeks. Meanwhile in the middle of the crisis the anti climate change prime minister Scott Morrison was on holiday in Hawaii.

It begs the question... if even a record setting drought, heat wave, fire storm reminiscent of hell itself cannot change the cult like false beliefs of those in denial what will?. My new theory is pretty simple and I figure all we have to do is wait to prove my point. You see this kind of hell on Earth there seeing in Australia is just the tip of the iceberg and they ain't seen nothing yet. This train wreck is there new normal and when the truth finally does sink in I suspect there will be civil war.

In nature small differences can have big effects because nature is very big and it's ecosystems are balanced. A small change like a PH change of one or slightly more greenhouse gasses raising the temperature two degrees can have catastrophic results. The Earth is like a giant heat engine and we have been adding way to much fuel to the fire for way too long and now there will be consequences.

There is no free lunch.



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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #670 on: December 22, 2019, 11:00:25 AM »
150 Mio sqkm land area on planet Earth :
with mountains zone,deserts,forests

assuming 50% agricultural useable for food production ( intensive/extensive):
75 Mio sqkm / 7,5 Billion human habitants ~ 1 ha per habitant

By number and Kg/ha food production sufficient
From 7,5 to 10 and 12,5 Billions human habitants
Climate zone ?Rain falls in mm per year ? Average monthly mm. ? Ground humidity ?

How many litres water needed per Kg food production. ? Without artificial irrigation. ? Ground water level. ?Ground water quality : lime, salt,...

How many Kg natural/industrial fertilizer per Kg food. ?


Probably : "global mental farming" : before/after
75 Mio sqkm /7,5 Billions human habitants ~     1           hab. /10000 sqm
Metropolitan area densities.                            ~ 100 habitants/10000 sqm

                                                                        and 1000 habitants/10000 sqm cities their centrum
                                                     Slums/ghettos by rural depopulation


Going mental back to the 70' and theretimes as " free /cheap energy" propagated " nuclear power" :
Schah-in-Schah Monarchy Reza Pahlewi + Siemens nuclear plant Buschir

Did this new kind of civil used energy project saved the Schah and his Regime from the Iran population their eco-social demands ?
Has Imam Khomeini had in his books solutions for a better human needs resolving world. ?


Not only projects/visions :

the peoples have to understand and feel what a change will mean in their pockets, in their consume behaviour and for their Generation Next. !Not only by TV or Net, local and physically. !

And how many years/decades this transition project will last for  !
Our World Re-Engineering project will last for minimum 100 years cause the habitants growth peak only reached in 50 years   !

Australia : well populated or over-populated. ?  Extensive living "TRAUMZEIT"-aborigines life style                                     
                                                                                    Intensive " White Immigrants" live culture. ?
Australia habitants number 1600,1700  ? Habitants/sqkm. ?


          Fire : how Nature resolves such periods

https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fm.spiegel.de%2Ffotostrecke%2Furalte-lebensformen-mehr-als-2000-jahre-auf-dieser-welt-fotostrecke-58110-2.html

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #671 on: December 22, 2019, 11:38:08 AM »
THE SHEEPLES ARE SO BUSY WITH THEIR SMART TV NETFLIX MINECRAFT AND ALL THEIR
DIABOLICAL DISTRACTION THAT THEY DO NOT SEE OR GIVE A SHIT OF WHAT IS HAPPENING AROUND THEM.
OUR LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID JUST AS THE TIME OF NOAH WILL BE LIKE THE TIME OF THE COMING OF
THE LORD REDEEMER.

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #673 on: December 22, 2019, 03:15:37 PM »
Lanca, Give those folks in the forest a "point of use" energy source ,with all that raw material ...Hanz woundn't be peeing in the forest he would be recycling his water and waste with unlimited energy !!

Smokey
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 the sustainability of our planet hinges on one thing and one thing only:


Free Energy
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 // OnePower,  So are you going to overthrow the Planet soon ??[supreme being ??
or run for office in SeyChelles ?? [start small ?]
whats your plan or is it just complaining, fire starting  and finger pointing ??Hmm you do read like a preacher or a politician..climb down off the podium and roll up your sleeves ...
You want to Change the world  Be that change

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Re: Food for Thought: Our World
« Reply #674 on: December 22, 2019, 04:34:26 PM »
In other news, my new machine is powering the lights
In my laboratory (just in series with the output like a resistor)
with very little loss.


I am close to having a working cylindrical testatika