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Author Topic: Vaccinations; recent developments  (Read 494231 times)

SeaMonkey

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #675 on: January 16, 2015, 09:45:18 PM »
Sark-Eizen,

It really isn't your fault that you have no substantive
knowledge regarding military Biological Warfare
research and related studies.  In truth, very few people do. ::)

What has been accomplished opaquely within classified
programs (mostly deep underground) in the fields of
disease, genetic modifications and preventatives/cures
is decades ahead of the 'knowledge' which is made
available to modern institutions of learning. 8)

If you are truly interested in acquiring such knowledge
pursue it.  Not all who seek entry are approved and
the demands are rigorous.  But then, you have no idea
where to initiate the journey. ???

One day, in the future, if you're lucky you'll be approached
by a headhunter who is looking for fresh meat.  If you go
for it (the program) you'll be forever changed.  You'll have
ninety days to change your mind (back out) if your first
experiences are not in accordance with your expectations. :o

Maintain a 'high visibility' so that you'll be noticed by those
who are looking for new blood. ;)

It might be helpful to speak with a Navy Recruiter with a view
towards entering the Naval Medical Corps.  That would be like
getting your foot in the doorway. :)

Not to worry - if you do receive an invite to join the party you'll
be given a discharge 'at the convenience of the government'
and a new 'identity' as a civilian contractor.  Then you'll be on
your way... ;D

The Measles is back!
 

sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #676 on: January 16, 2015, 11:25:50 PM »
is decades ahead of the 'knowledge' which is made available to modern institutions of learning. 8)
This is actually irrelevant.  Remember this was about a alleged navy study that said efficacy of the flu vaccine was 2%.  Again you can have all the money and people you want.  You can have technology 100000000000000000000 years ahead of our time.  You still have a hard time coming up with a significantly different answer. 

Why?  The law of diminishing returns isn't a technological constraint.  It's a mathematical one....and math looks at all the dollars, people and future tech that you pretend the government has and says: yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn!

The fact that you are kind of an idiot in this way is only partially your fault but you don't help by not being interested in the truth. :)

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #677 on: January 16, 2015, 11:31:17 PM »
This is actually irrelevant.  Remember this was about a alleged navy study that said efficacy of the flu vaccine was 2%.  Again you can have all the money and people you want.  You can have technology 100000000000000000000 years ahead of our time.  Math looks at all of that and says: yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwnnnnnnnnnn!

The fact that you are kind of an idiot in this way is only partially your fault but you don't help by not being interested in the truth. :)

Said by the shill/idiot who can't produce any evidence that his vaccines are safe and effective...unless he starts playing with text again.

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SeaMonkey

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #678 on: January 17, 2015, 03:52:24 AM »
Quote from: Sark-Eizen
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Remember this was about a alleged navy study that said efficacy of the flu vaccine was 2%.
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The study indicated that the actual efficacy of the
public administered flu vaccine was 3% tops.

But, there was much more to the study than that.

Suffice it to say that vaccines which are 100% effective
against all 'strains' of flu are capable of being produced.

And more.

There are some members of the military who never get
any illness.  Well, apart that is, from mental illness.
They're intensively 'mind controlled' to make them
supermen.

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Pirate88179

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #680 on: January 17, 2015, 05:52:36 AM »
So, are there really folks that believe that small pox, polio, and TB just stopped in society by accident?  Vaccinations had nothing to do with it?
Now, of course, some of these are making a comeback BUT, could that be that folks are entering this country by the droves have not had vaccinations?

I do believe that the shots have achieved much more good than the bad side effects, which, there are some.  It is a statistical choice.  Your kid has a 1 in 5 chance of dying from some horrible disease but, the shot to prevent it has only a 1 in 100,00,000.  This, of course, does not mean there is 0 risk...but...play the odds is what I say.

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #681 on: January 17, 2015, 05:56:53 AM »
The study indicated that the actual efficacy of the public administered flu vaccine was 3% tops.
So unless you are using the term "efficacy" in a way entirely different from the way researchers do.  This is very good evidence that whatever source you are relying on is entirely wrong.

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Suffice it to say that vaccines which are 100% effective against all 'strains' of flu are capable of being produced.
Unlikely.  Information theory probably makes achieving that difficult.  That said there have been at least two articles about a "universal flu vaccine" in the past few days.  Which explains your incorporating this into your delusion.  This is based on the work of Miller published two years ago.   At least two phase II clinical trials for a broad antibody called CR8020 which is based on that work have happened in that time.  I haven't seen the results but even us lowly academics know:

a) This isn't a universal flu vaccine - at absolute best it's a universal Influenza A vaccine.
b) It's not even that, there are already (uncommon) viruses which are not affected like H7N9. 

So again your information sources are inferior to what is readily available from medical journals.  If you have the education to read them.   Which you don't. :) 
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There are some members of the military who never get any illness.
Think, for once in your web-regurgitating-moronic life.  What would have to be true for that to be true.  See if you can figure out why that's stupid before I post back.  Ok?

joel321

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #682 on: January 17, 2015, 07:35:08 AM »
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So, are there really folks that believe that small pox, polio, and TB just stopped in society by accident?  Vaccinations had nothing to do with it?
Now, of course, some of these are making a comeback BUT, could that be that folks are entering this country by the droves have not had vaccinations?

That is really not that hard to understand! And it is true. You just JB weld some molecules here and there and they are squeaking and then you make a vaccine.

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I do believe that the shots have achieved much more good than the bad side effects, which, there are some.  It is a statistical choice.  Your kid has a 1 in 5 chance of dying from some horrible disease but, the shot to prevent it has only a 1 in 100,00,000.  This, of course, does not mean there is 0 risk...but...play the odds is what I say.

This is your common IMMUNE SYSTEM at it's best!

There is no cure for anything only the IMMUNE SYSTEM learning to cope with the virus.

Take for example the flu virus, the vaccine does not “cure” it but only helps the immune system to deal with it. Don't we have the flu virus getting people sick every year?

The flu shot is only for the MOST SPREAD flu viruses and does not guarantee 100% you will not get the flu. And once the flu virus gets in your system, your body YMMUNE SYSTEM remembers their genetic code, IOW, you will always carry that virus in your body. If you go to a reservation where no one has being had the “immunity” that your body has, they would, you will get the sick and will kill their population!

We actually do benefit from vaccinations here and there but that does not mean that the dinosaurs where going to the clinic to get flu shots! Where the dinosaurs have live thousands of more years than we have. Have you seen the TV show “monsters inside me”? Do you believe that the dandruff fungus will ever get outside your body just by using “headndshoulders” shampoo? The fongus will live for the rest of your living life in your body and will “mutate” here and there which in return the “creators” of the shampoo will have to add that MUTATION to their shampoo for LIFE! Since the fongus never leaves your body!

The actual solution is not vaccines but EDUCATION! The same happens to our IMMUNE SYSTEM, it learns how to LIVE WITH THE VIRUS IN THE BODY! The flu virus that you had 10 years with you is still living in your body, the body has just been immune to it. That is all!

Even with out vaccinations, the body would soon learn to deal with it because humans are not the same as microbial viruses. Humans are actually are encoded in their genetic code to keep on living. And with out vaccinations, the body will soon learn to immune itself from the viruses since the viruses need the human to survive too!

But your simplistic mind cannot understand that!

You see this all over nature how things work. And if there was one virus that gets rid of the human body, I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A VIRUS GET RID OF A WHOLE MASSIVE POPULATION! And if that is even possible, that would only have to be in the low percentages! = they both depend on each other and they both need to keep each other in check!

How do you think the rest of the animals have survived for billions of years with out any vaccines? But I guess your brain cannot comprehend that far!



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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #683 on: January 17, 2015, 07:40:40 AM »



That is really not that hard to understand!
The actual solution is not vaccines but EDUCATION!


Yes, I agree.  Please try to get some.

Bill

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #684 on: January 17, 2015, 07:45:37 AM »
That is really not that hard to understand! And it is true. You just JB weld some molecules here and there and they are squeaking and then you make a vaccine.


Great line...post of the week material for sure.

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joel321

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #685 on: January 17, 2015, 07:47:17 AM »
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I do believe that the shots have achieved much more good than the bad side effects, which, there are some.[

you also have to take in consideration what gives is air to breath and what gives us food to eat! You are only focusing on YOUR EGOTISTICAL VACCINATION, what about the rest of the animals vaccinations?

I already told you that 50% of all animals (that are left) have been reduced half their existence! This is very simplistic and I don't believe you are able to think that far that when there are 100% humans in this world and zero% animals zero% plants is your remedy for your brain farts!

That is just looking, like I said, AT ONLY ONE ANGLE OF THE 360* knowledge of life!

What good would it be to help the immune system when you are killing everything else that gave you life in the first place? Then we go in to the analogy that I have mentioned before....you are stuck in an island with vaccines and medicine with no animals and no plants, and then see what happens in 40 more years of you taking man made drugs in your island full of drugs!

You have no way of looking that far from your nose! I don't even know how have you made it this far in the evolution game! The only thing I can think of is that you have more bark than a bite, sort of like a little chihuahua dog barking behind his fence, bet then we all know that there are wolfs, and pittbulls too! So 100% sure your mentality is not universal nor the key to life! Just based on that.

All I will expect from you is to reply to one sentence that you “believe” to grasp from everything that I have said...lol....i'll wait for it :P

joel321

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #686 on: January 17, 2015, 08:04:30 AM »
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Yes, I agree.  Please try to get some.

Yes coming from a person whom believes that vaccinations are the cure and not by EDUCATING the population how viruses get in your body in the first place, since, YAWN, if one avoids the virus in the first place, we would not have to pay medical virus vaccination support for the rest of our lives! Get it or do you need someone to explain that for you?

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« Reply #687 on: January 17, 2015, 08:10:10 AM »
Yes coming from a person whom believes that vaccinations are the cure and not by EDUCATING the population how viruses get in your body in the first place, since, YAWN, if one avoids the virus in the first place, we would not have to pay medical virus vaccination support for the rest of our lives! Get it or do you need someone to explain that for you?

JB Weld is the best preventative medicine.  Trust me on this.  If that does not work for you, try duct tape.

Bill

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #688 on: January 17, 2015, 08:28:41 AM »
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JB Weld is the best preventative medicine.  Trust me on this.  If that does not work for you, try duct tape.

That SARCASM did not work as you expected it would lol

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #689 on: January 17, 2015, 02:58:48 PM »
JB Weld is the best preventative medicine.  Trust me on this.  If that does not work for you, try duct tape.

Bill


A sad example of someone who has never been relevant his entire life, struggling to be relevant.

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