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joel321

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #555 on: January 12, 2015, 10:15:57 AM »
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Depends on what you mean.  Some cancers we don't have a very good idea where they come from.  Some we do.  H

OK describe the ones that you know where they come from?

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Tissue made up of several different cell types that allows for the transportation of blood.

What do you mean by this? Explain please!

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New tissue growth - particularly in the form of a tumor but some cancers don't grow that way. 

Again, please describe the cancers that are you familiar with!

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Cells where most of their time is spent resting that is, not engaged in cell division.

Regulated by what? What cells are doing this you speak off?

joel321

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« Reply #556 on: January 12, 2015, 10:30:59 AM »
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That is the clinical definition of obesity.  If you have another definition you need to supply it.  More evidence that you have spend very little time questioning yourself.

Well I find it hard to believe that the mere EYESIGHT does not play a role!!! since we learn from looking and learning. So if I see a round body, I'm 100% that person has been doing more eating than another.

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The reason researchers say that X% of a population is obese is because their BMI is > some agreed upon number.  They don't just "look" at people.

Well that's a problem. So you are here telling me that I cannot distiguish between a fat person VS a skinny person with my eye sight? I don't even know what your are trying to imply! As if there is not way to see a fat person with the eye sight and only with your BMI numbers?

Whatever you have to say no matter what! It is 100% true that the USA has more fat people than skinny ones! 100% facts! And this is because fat people spend more money than skinny people! The same reason it is better to keep all stupid because if they are smart, they would not spend as much money!

I would like you to consider what is GREED!

I would like you to consider that 50% of all animals have gone extinct since the year 2000 and those numbers are continuing to decline as we speak!

Now with all of this happening, where do you see the world in 50 more years?

If supposedly your SMART INTELLIGENT brain is for the “greater” good! Why all of this murdering of the “evolution”?

So no matter what you believe you know or what you believe you have figured out, the facts are that this world is dying! We are headed in a new wold wide extinction!

So much cell understanding you preach to know but the end results is all pollution of the world and the body!

It seems like you cannot see the whole picture and only living in your bubble only looking for a cookie to be had.

joel321

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #557 on: January 12, 2015, 10:44:13 AM »
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You can also rub dog crap under your arms to eliminate under arm odor.  This is proven to work, by thousands, possibly millions.  The list of studies that proves this are many in number and too long for me to mention, or link to any here.

Now, they are working on a "cure" for dog crap odor.

Sir, I am younger than you are and I expected more maturity from you! Time and time again you fail to provide any ounce of significant knowledge.

I as a young person could easily poke fun on your old age. (old fart) but I don't do that because that is not the way of life! And I hear you poking fun of others talking about dog crap in the arm pits? Well, looks like you don't seek truth and only here to bully people!

I wish not to be like you when I'm your age sir!

sarkeizen

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« Reply #558 on: January 12, 2015, 01:09:14 PM »
OK describe the ones that you know where they come from?
No but for example ionizing radiation can knock out a gene (such as MDM2) which reduces the amount of a protein (such as p53) in cells which has at least three responses to DNA damage.  Any of which could stop the damaged DNA from reproducing.
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What do you mean by this? Explain please!
You need to ask a more specific question.  Do you not understand the terms "tissue", "blood" or how blood is transported through tissue. :)
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Again, please describe the cancers that are you familiar with!
No but since the actual statement was about cancers that don't produce tumors. Leukemia is one, it produces an over-abundance of abnormal white blood cells. 
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Regulated by what? What cells are doing this you speak off?
Cancer is a broad term for diseases where cells divide more than usual.  Do you disagree?  If not, then what do you think tumors are?

sarkeizen

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« Reply #559 on: January 12, 2015, 01:18:33 PM »
Well I find it hard to believe that the mere EYESIGHT does not play a role!!!
What you believe is so very unimportant it scarcely matters.  Studies are generally blinded in one way or another.  So the person doing the analysis doesn't get to see anyone. 
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Well that's a problem. So you are here telling me that I cannot distiguish between a fat person VS a skinny person with my eye sight? I don't even know what your are trying to imply!
That your eyesight is sadly not the basis for correlating any diseases in any useful way.   So when you say "obesity causes x" you are very likely just referencing something which used a BMI calculating to establish that correlation.  So that was why I assume you were using BMI to talk about obesity and it's correlation to disease.  However if you have some other made-up definition then please share it. :)

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It is 100% true
But you spend so much time doubting yourself...right?

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100% facts!
Yes i can see you must really examine yourself critically.

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that this world is dying!
See normally I'd say something like "Sure, the 2nd law of thermodynamics says that" but since I'm currently speaking to a resident of crazy-town...

sarkeizen

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« Reply #560 on: January 12, 2015, 01:22:40 PM »
Well, a reader pointed out that in the previous post, he sniffed at the challenge but didn't lift his leg...while in this post its clear he sees the hook in the bait.
I've asked you plainly what your argument is.  You made a cryptic response.  I simply asked a clarifying question and you can't give me a clear answer.

Again, you claim that you've "entered the ring" but you won't even produce a clear statement of your argument.  Again, the invitation is open.  Whenever you feel like sitting and the grownup table.  Just let me know.  I will from time to time read your posts even though you're on ignore. :)

sarkeizen

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« Reply #561 on: January 12, 2015, 01:41:25 PM »
To" What" do you "attribute" the "Epidemic" and "increasing" Levels of "Autism" in the "population" """?"""
Do you perhaps mean:
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To what do you attribute the increasing number of reported cases of autism in the population?
My answer to that would simply be a top two reasons for this observation.  Primarily it would be diagnostic criteria changes.  This seems to be pretty obvious - that when you broaden who gets called autistic you will end up with more people with that label.  There was a study just this month showing this using Danish data.

There is already an established link between maternal (and more recently paternal) age and autism.  Parental age has been on the rise for a while now.

Does that explain all new cases?  Probably not but what it leaves us with is much too low to blame on things like vaccines. :)

Cap-Z-ro

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« Reply #562 on: January 12, 2015, 03:39:43 PM »
You don't have to be psychic to predict that he will not be supplying the non existent evidence that vaccines are effective.

Instead, he much prefers demanding evidence that they are not effective.

He quacks exactly like a paid shill...because he just is.

Regards...


sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #563 on: January 12, 2015, 08:17:32 PM »
You don't have to be psychic to predict that he will not be supplying the non existent evidence that vaccines are effective.
Is that your argument?  That there is absolutely no evidence for the effectiveness of vaccines?  Again, simple and clear answers gets you in the ring.  I'm sure it's pretty obvious to most people how hard you are trying to stay out. :)

Cap-Z-ro

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« Reply #564 on: January 12, 2015, 08:31:04 PM »
Is that your argument?  That there is absolutely no evidence for the effectiveness of vaccines? 


A reader opined: Surely, if he truly missed the queries, he could be led directly to the oft posed question...again, by simply consulting his royal arse kisser...who has shown an obsession for correcting grammatical mistakes and typo's.

I agree.

Regards...


SeaMonkey

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #565 on: January 12, 2015, 08:38:39 PM »
The ongoing saga of 'vaccinations' and their side
effects (consequences) either un-intended or
otherwise.


In this day and age of 'science miracles' as never
before, it is strange indeed that vaccinations have
not been made safe.


sarkeizen

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« Reply #567 on: January 12, 2015, 09:05:12 PM »
In this day and age of 'science miracles' as never before, it is strange indeed that vaccinations have not been made safe.
For any useful definition of the word "safe" they have.

The ring is still there.  Anytime you want to subject your opinions to actual critical thought feel free to step in.  If you want to keep padding your pre-existing notions.  Then by all means, just keep posting links then running away. :)

sarkeizen

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #568 on: January 12, 2015, 09:09:30 PM »
if he truly missed the queries
Last chance.   Please confirm my assessment of your argument or restate it in a clear and unambiguous way.

Refuse and you lose your argument about getting ignored once you enter the ring.  Since you now have thrice refused to enter. :)

SeaMonkey

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Re: Vaccinations; recent developments
« Reply #569 on: January 12, 2015, 09:23:08 PM »
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For any useful definition of the word "safe" they have.
...

As in 'completely safe for all,' or

100% safe in every respect, or

vaccinations which are incapable of causing
any adverse effect.

In a Sane World 'safe' in the fullest sense would
be attainable.

In our present Crazy World of agenda driven
'Love of Money' manipulations it seems to be
undesirable.

Population Reduction 101