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Pirate88179

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #180 on: December 15, 2014, 02:44:42 AM »
Tommy:

Beautiful build man, best of luck to you.  You know,with the lights out, the front view looks like a flux capacitor.

Bill

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #181 on: December 15, 2014, 09:31:05 AM »
Very impressive build Tommy, and the addition of leds make a great display.

Good luck in the contest!

MarkE

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #182 on: December 15, 2014, 10:56:39 AM »
It's a nice build Tommey.

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #183 on: December 15, 2014, 01:33:17 PM »
Thanks all,

It's interesting the pulse motor build off is just the same old builds like last year, it's all most like spinning in circles.

I believe I added a twist to this year of PMBO,  I also learn a few things also...

I hope I was one of the 3 winners this year, I know I put in the time.

Tom 8)
« Last Edit: December 15, 2014, 05:23:01 PM by TommeyLeeReed »

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #184 on: December 15, 2014, 05:22:05 PM »
Awesome Tom you got my vote  ;)

@Tinman
Thought you might be interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM0ER3N4Fy0

TommeyLeeReed

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #185 on: December 15, 2014, 06:57:14 PM »
Hi All,

This is a complete build of this radial pulse engine from the start x8 the speed, no I'm that fast of a builder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U36pLafn_M8

Tom

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #186 on: December 16, 2014, 02:47:19 AM »
   






















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MileHigh

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #187 on: December 16, 2014, 02:47:56 AM »
Well heaven forbid if some pulse motor builders actually want to learn something to better their craft so that they can make better pulse motors.  The pursuit of knowledge is not something to be ashamed of and there should never be peer pressure to stay the same and not think about new ideas and learning new things.  When MCR says it's a "distraction" he is just reinforcing the notion that it's "bad" to put your brain in gear and on another level it's also just a stupid mind game.

For example, you can't say "my motor is efficient" without actually stating what you mean when you say that.  It you don't define what you are talking about then it's a meaningless statement.  There is no "delayed Lenz effect" and there is no such thing as "speed under load."  If you keep on repeating these false ideas then you don't advance and you remain in a rut.  These pulse motor issues have been covered many times and they were recently covered in detail on another thread.  Don't listen to clown comments that try to put good knowledge like this down by calling it a "distraction."  Pulse motors are a neat way to learn about pulse circuits and by extension about electronics in general.  Some people can't really handle that, they think that they can build pulse motors by "listening and feeling" but there is a lot more to it than that.  They want to discourage you from learning because the more you learn the further behind they will get.

I suggested some ideas for some innovative pulse motor architectures that some people might want to try for next year's pulse motor build off.  I also suggested that next year's PMBO actually have some kind of design goal in order to up the ante and make the competition more interesting.

When somebody tries to teach you something so you can challenge yourself to do better and continue learning that's a good thing.  Don't listen to people that try to put that down or be dismissive of things like this.  They have another motivation for doing this which should be pretty clear if you think about it.

Anybody that has any questions or thoughts about pulse motors or how the basic electronics work are encouraged to ask those questions.  There are some knowledgeable people around here that will be happy to see if they can answer your questions and help you out.  Do not ever in your life be ashamed of learning.  Don't succumb to foolish counter-productive peer pressure that reinforces bad ideas or wants to directly or indirectly discourage you from learning something new to better yourself.

MileHigh

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #188 on: December 16, 2014, 02:49:45 AM »
Here are the final entries


  http://rwgresearch.com/events/pulse-motor-build-off-2014/


I would hate to have to judge this ........


thx
Chet

TommeyLeeReed

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #189 on: December 16, 2014, 04:36:21 AM »
MCR,

 You're saying that your pulse motor is so efficient, yet you can't even show basic input vs output of power.

I have seen many types of your kind, many of them play around with PLC to change frequency while claiming more efficient running performance. But when tested under real conditions they fail big time.

You have said it in the past that you don't have to show any meters, yet you would toy around like a child with candy and say,"See my meters" :P

It's time to just call you out as I see it, PROVE IT! ;)

My simple pulse motor, yeah simple to me 8)
I used a single 12v battery, no wires running down the wall as your video shows.
I show true BEMF output, not lights coming from a unknown source.
I also did load test from the battery and can say it's around 1-3 amps from the main power source, not meter connected from where ever.

Clearly you got to much to say and very little to back up your words. :o

Anyone can spin a wheel, does not matter how much energy you put in, it's what you get out that really matters.

Most likely those that put in more watts will produce greater output then those that put in less. ;D

I got two last word for you, PROVE IT!

 :o

TOM

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #190 on: December 16, 2014, 09:38:01 AM »
Here are the final entries


  http://rwgresearch.com/events/pulse-motor-build-off-2014/


I would hate to have to judge this ........


thx
Chet
There is a lot of creative work on display.  Tommey's is still my favorite followed by the second slayer build that throws off sparks.

tinman

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #191 on: December 16, 2014, 05:11:14 PM »

@Tinman
Thought you might be interested https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM0ER3N4Fy0
Thanks Dave.
This is the reason i hunt for the 100 or 80 series motors,as you dont have to do any rewireing,as there already low voltage motors. If you can get a 40 series motor,then they will produce 240 voltas at about 180rpm-->no need for any batteries or inverters then ;).

tinman

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #192 on: December 16, 2014, 05:20:37 PM »
MCR,

 You're saying that your pulse motor is so efficient, yet you can't even show basic input vs output of power.

I have seen many types of your kind, many of them play around with PLC to change frequency while claiming more efficient running performance. But when tested under real conditions they fail big time.

You have said it in the past that you don't have to show any meters, yet you would toy around like a child with candy and say,"See my meters" :P

It's time to just call you out as I see it, PROVE IT! ;)

My simple pulse motor, yeah simple to me 8)
I used a single 12v battery, no wires running down the wall as your video shows.
I show true BEMF output, not lights coming from a unknown source.
I also did load test from the battery and can say it's around 1-3 amps from the main power source, not meter connected from where ever.

Clearly you got to much to say and very little to back up your words. :o

Anyone can spin a wheel, does not matter how much energy you put in, it's what you get out that really matters.

Most likely those that put in more watts will produce greater output then those that put in less. ;D

I got two last word for you, PROVE IT!

 :o

TOM

I have known MCR for many years Tom,and you'd be hard pressed to get close to the efficiency of his machines-and his workmanship is second to none. He has built many many machines ,and shown very accurate P/in P/out meassurements,so he has a good idea as to what each of his machines are doing.

Yours is a good build for sure,and beats mine hand's down-as i just never had the time avaliable to finish it due to working hours.But seems quite hungry on power,for little P/out from the backEMF. But im guessing that it has quite a bit or torque-will you be doing any torque test on it ?.

Good job from all that entered ;)

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #193 on: December 16, 2014, 06:31:14 PM »
@All - Really great builds
awesome really enjoyed watching


TommeyLeeReed

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #194 on: December 16, 2014, 10:16:48 PM »
MCR,

NPD is what you have been doing from the beginning on this forum!

This pulse motor build off is kids games to me, the only reason I join is because some people wanted to see me back up my comments from the past, other then that it was fun.

This is nothing more then a show and tell, the reason I call you out is your false reading as you stated from the beginning and telling everyone else they are distractions.

You may have a few watching your back, but I know many question you're claims from the beginning.

People like you want to believe they have the answer, like someone smoking crack thinking they can fly.

You have been making claims of how efficient your pulse motor is, yet when someone challenge you to shut up with the BS and prove it, you hide like a rat in a hole.

By the way, I could do much better then anyone thinks. That's why for now on I will be doing PMBO every year so you guys will have to work very hard to out do me :o

Good Luck!
 8)