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Offline TommeyLReed

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #210 on: December 21, 2014, 09:37:36 AM »
Hi All,

And the winners are?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOcXsR0lxxg

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #211 on: December 21, 2014, 11:46:19 AM »
Tommey congratulations.

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #212 on: December 21, 2014, 01:22:00 PM »
What a ripoff.
Not to demean anyone's build but come on.
Tommey won hands down
MCR second

I call bull$hit

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« Reply #212 on: December 21, 2014, 01:22:00 PM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #213 on: December 21, 2014, 05:25:51 PM »
I thought Tommey's was the best and the #3 winner the second best. 

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #214 on: December 21, 2014, 05:56:10 PM »
I thought Tommy's was #1 also.  It was a fantastic, complicated and very creative build.

I am sure the judges did have a hard time deciding.

Maybe next year they can decide on certain criteria such as....most complicated, most efficient, or whatever.

Bill

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Offline Dog-One

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #215 on: December 22, 2014, 07:32:30 AM »
Tom,

I think the only reason you didn't take the top spot on the podium was because the judges know just how good you are--kind of puts you in a class of your own.  Same thing would happen if they held a HHO powered water cannon build off.   hehe.   Yes, I'm sure you were handicapped many points before they even started wrangling with the numbers.

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #216 on: December 22, 2014, 08:30:30 AM »
I liked Tommey's build, but I also liked this one from skycollection, which effectively captures back some of the energy put into the spinner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zerOAKWGWDQ

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Offline tinman

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #217 on: December 22, 2014, 12:24:48 PM »
The judges were looking for the new this time round,and although Tom's and many others were great build's,they had been done many times before-->not quite as complicated as Tom's i must say though.

Chet may want to have a close look at what the wining build was going to be powered with(EMP's from HHO explosions) ;)

The PMBO actually started when Russ and myself were going to see which one of us could build the best pulse motor,and then we decided to turn it into a fun comp for every one.

Anyway,well done to all you guy's 8)

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #218 on: December 22, 2014, 11:59:51 PM »
Hi All,

 I would like to add that this did not seem like a good build off at all, there was no rules and just because a judge love HHO what did that have to do with pulse motor build off?

I know that others did a better build like MCR, I will rethink doing another pulse motor build off due to bias to others and no real rules.

I would rather have rules, then doing something that effect one of the judges opinion like add HHO BS, where does this have to do with pulse motor build off?

So I will recover my lost being 2nd place, but I would hope smart judges next year have rules that make sense, not  a feel good effect running up someone leg because HHO goes boom.

My motor used 12v battery, not ac unlimited power like most of the builds where!

I believe these would be good basic rules for the next build off:

12v DC battery input only.
Input vs Output of watts.
Efficiency.
Mechanical linear or rotational pulse only.

These are rules that will always have the best 3 winners!

Tom






 

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #219 on: December 23, 2014, 12:58:52 AM »
While I do think Jeremy's motor was interesting, I have to side with Tom on this one, pretty much. If a "win" is granted because someone says "hey, my motor is planned to use (insert whatever speculative power source here) but I haven't put that part in yet" then anything goes, right? I mean, my linear pulse motor is planned to use Tesla cosmic-ray collectors for power, but I just haven't had time to build that part yet. So how many extra points should that get me, then?  (I couldn't even enter because I couldn't get on to Russ's forum to post an entry anyhow.)

I'm not sure if I would make the restrictions so strict as Tom, but perhaps there should be some limit on input power source(s) and definitely the entry should be judged on what is actually presented, not what is planned for some future modification. And some consideration should be given for using different phenomena, like the Core Effect. I liked Jeremy's entry because of the use of electrostatic propulsion. And Jeremy gave me some suggestions and ideas for my own linear PM that I was playing around with earlier. But power from EMP from HHO implosions? I'll believe in that when I see it. Maybe.

This would have been my entry if I had been able to enter it. I'm not pretending it could have been a real contender but perhaps it shows a thing or two unexpected and maybe would give some people some ideas about circuit strategy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGmbN1CzmsQ

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #220 on: December 23, 2014, 01:06:04 AM »
TinMan
Harvesting EMP from the HHO "event"...
I wondered what he was trying to do!!


Now I see why all the interest....


Tom
I agree that rules will help focus the contest,maybe there should also be peoples choice
award??


it is a good thing that Brad and Russ started ,it just needs some adjustment as it grows.
competition has always been a stimulus for advancements in technology.


thx


Chet




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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #221 on: December 23, 2014, 01:07:18 AM »
While I do think Jeremy's motor was interesting, I have to side with Tom on this one, pretty much. If a "win" is granted because someone says "hey, my motor is planned to use (insert whatever speculative power source here) but I haven't put that part in yet" then anything goes, right? I mean, my linear pulse motor is planned to use Tesla cosmic-ray collectors for power, but I just haven't had time to build that part yet. So how many extra points should that get me, then?  (I couldn't even enter because I couldn't get on to Russ's forum to post an entry anyhow.)

I'm not sure if I would make the restrictions so strict as Tom, but perhaps there should be some limit on input power source(s) and definitely the entry should be judged on what is actually presented, not what is planned for some future modification. And some consideration should be given for using different phenomena, like the Core Effect. I liked Jeremy's entry because of the use of electrostatic propulsion. And Jeremy gave me some suggestions and ideas for my own linear PM that I was playing around with earlier. But power from EMP from HHO implosions? I'll believe in that when I see it. Maybe.

This would have been my entry if I had been able to enter it. I'm not pretending it could have been a real contender but perhaps it shows a thing or two unexpected and maybe would give some people some ideas about circuit strategy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGmbN1CzmsQ


I loved your entry TK. It's gotta be tough being a judge. At least the year I won the entries were no where near as sophisticated as this year. They were insanely good. That is the main point of the competition of course, to share ideas, get out and build something. I was blown away by the quality of the entries.

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #222 on: December 23, 2014, 01:12:35 AM »
Yeah I think Tom's should have been in a build off with Russ :)

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #223 on: December 26, 2014, 08:23:41 PM »
Hi Mister Caribbean Roots,

A bit late in reflecting on you long post (Reply #197, Page 14, http://overunity.com/15095/pulse-motor-build-off-time/msg427802/#msg427802 ) but I have more time now...  8)

Okay on your using the welding rod for the core, this minimizes eddy currents, especially, if the rods are deliberately isolated from each other in the 'circular pile'.

So all in all you seem to be at home with 'such things', as the proverb says: 'Practice makes perfect'.   :)

Keep up the good work and Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year.

Gyula

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Re: Pulse motor build off time.
« Reply #224 on: December 27, 2014, 11:04:44 AM »
Interesting that Mark Dansie posted on RG that he also thinks that Tommy's entry should have been 1st place.  Nothing against the judges but I also agree with this.  Water under the bridge and all but...hopefully we can all learn from this.

Bill

 

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