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Author Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )  (Read 608544 times)

thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #240 on: December 01, 2014, 11:29:36 PM »
How about this? :)
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2678.msg43489#msg43489


it is nice how ever coil return path is absent to allow coils' magnetic flux to dissipate.
magnetic shunt must be replaced after inducing magnetic field to the coils also magnets.
 

Just..Sayin..

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Re: The "RamaGen"
« Reply #241 on: December 01, 2014, 11:30:03 PM »

I'd like to think these two videos were not just teasers.


I think we would all like to think that... I think we will see if the proof is in the pudding soon enough from those who busy building right now. JimBoot's results are very encouraging so far.

Here is a little build I am throwing together from some parts I had kicking around. Neos will mount on DC motor face behind rotor and L brackets will wrap around the rotor to the front to hold the coils. Going to forgo ferrous cores for the time being...


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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #242 on: December 01, 2014, 11:49:34 PM »

it is nice how ever coil return path is absent to allow coils' magnetic flux to dissipate.
magnetic shunt must be replaced after inducing magnetic field to the coils also magnets.
If to think in E. Leedskalnin terms my design is all OK. You have deflection force caused by magnetic flux increase in coil when iron bar approaches then you have magnetic flux decrease when iron bar shorts 2 magnetic poles of magnets (so you have attraction force from coil when iron bar is already under coil) and the in the last step when iron bar is moving away from coil you get opposite magnetic flux increase with deflection force. So the net Lenz force = 0 in iron bar movement around circle when you sum it up. Balance magnetic forces around circle and then have 0 physical reaction even in strongest magnetic coupling between magnets and shorted coil. :) Then unbalance deflection force from coil and make it stronger when iron bar goes away from coil and you get generator+motor in single coil...

thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #243 on: December 02, 2014, 12:32:07 AM »
To  "T-1000"


but how can you make this model (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2678.msg43489#msg43489[/font]) compact and powerfull without closed magnetic flux lines?


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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #244 on: December 02, 2014, 12:37:20 AM »
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but how can you make this model (http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2678.msg43489#msg43489[/font]) compact and powerfull without closed magnetic flux lines?

Having another layer with rotor from other coils side with opposite layout of magnets on second stator from the second disk side will make it closed in coils. Just for a start that is not so important for a sake of seeing Lenz force effect working for you and not against you.

thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #245 on: December 02, 2014, 12:46:07 AM »
This is the WORD than: Try not hard but simple and steady. There is no hard problem but complex ones are.

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #246 on: December 02, 2014, 02:02:39 AM »
Here is a generator that turns freely.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfsEfnsA4I
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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #247 on: December 02, 2014, 12:33:52 PM »
If to think in E. Leedskalnin terms my design is all OK. You have deflection force caused by magnetic flux increase in coil when iron bar approaches then you have magnetic flux decrease when iron bar shorts 2 magnetic poles of magnets (so you have attraction force from coil when iron bar is already under coil) and the in the last step when iron bar is moving away from coil you get opposite magnetic flux increase with deflection force. So the net Lenz force = 0 in iron bar movement around circle when you sum it up. Balance magnetic forces around circle and then have 0 physical reaction even in strongest magnetic coupling between magnets and shorted coil. :) Then unbalance deflection force from coil and make it stronger when iron bar goes away from coil and you get generator+motor in single coil...
I need pictures to understand what is happening. I know the bemf is not causing the motor to draw any more power, or at least what I have measured so far. . What I don't quite understand is what is happening with the fields to cause the current. Is theoria still on [size=78%]The forum? I'd love his input as well. [/size]

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #248 on: December 02, 2014, 01:45:56 PM »
Car Runs On SELF RUNNING Generator Only.  No engine, No Transmission, and No Water Hydrogen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFfsEfnsA4I
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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #250 on: December 02, 2014, 09:17:54 PM »
The attached patent file below, seems to show the detail better.
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Just..Sayin..

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Enjoykin

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #252 on: December 03, 2014, 04:09:27 AM »
NIKOLAI TESLA SCALAR MOTOR  !! :)

Can it be simplest ?? I think it can't !!

All informations are in Nikolai Tesla Lectures, Patents and Articles !!

GOOD LUCK !! :)

thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #253 on: December 03, 2014, 12:28:46 PM »
http://www.overunity.com/15083/the-new-generator-no-effect-counter-b-emf-part-2-selfrunning/dlattach/attach/144120/
this generator useses magnetic shielding also. But not only for magnets also for coils when current passing as an electromagnet.
For the animation below; red matter is soft slicone steel laminations, white areas on the stator for coils but not like induction motor coils more like Ecklin generator coils. When generator coils do not used while inducing magnetic flux this can be achieved by a diode by a coil, this generator acts as a motor while producing electriciy!

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #254 on: December 03, 2014, 07:45:00 PM »
Is this the orignal invention? Is this Syairs friend he is no longer able to contact? The video was posted 1 year ago and only has 72 views...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ph4v6Ql1HNY&list=UUD4Gw8ri6buK-H67JDpnv-g

Screen shot from video below....


Here are some comments from Syarchairun I found on a ID chat board that may shed further light on the working principle... first the original post, perhaps someone can help with a better translation...

(We all have to wonder if Syair is still with us, and if we will ever hear from him again. In his comments to SA earlier in November he stated that he was not able to get in touch with the inventor and did not know why. Lets be realistic, they monitor FE developments and they would no doubt move against him very quickly)

This was posted Nov 12/14  at http://www.kaskus.co.id/post/54631253a2cb17245e8b4575#post54631253a2cb17245e8b4575

Energy extranya itu memang sudah terdapat pada generator ini, contoh pada generator konvensional 10kva exciter coil hanya memasukan daya sebesar 320w ke rotor coil yang akan merubah energy itu menjadi magnet, lalu rotor akan berputar pada kecepatan 1500rpm dan mendptkan voltase sebesar 220v, ketika generator tanpa beban kamu bisa memutar generator 10kva itu hanya dengan tenga 0.75kva ( 1hp ), tapi ketika terbebani generator akan semakin berat, itu terjadi karna adanya efect lenzlaw yang selau berlawan arah dan menyebabkan rotor perlu tenga lebih untk berputr dalam putran tertntu, pada saat generator tidak diberi beban perubahan kutub yang terjadi di stator besi sangat besar dari pada inputnya, Nah generator yang baru saya buat itu mempunyai design yang kusus, yang dapat mengalirkan efect lenz law itu ke sudut yang berbeda, induksi dari rotor tetap masuk dan sngat besar dan induksi yang terjadi disaat terbebani dapat dialirkan ke sudut yang lain, contoh yang simple Pada generator pasaran : kamu sedang berjalan dari sudut A ke C dan ditengahnya ada sudut B ketika kamu mendekati sudut b kamu diterjang angin yang berlawan dan ketika kamu melewatinya kamu mlah ditarik, pasti kamu susah kan untuk mencpai ke titk C, tapi pada generator saya itu tidak terjadi tidak ada hambatan karna gaya negtif itu dialihkan ke arah yang lain bukan dimusnakan krna energy lenz law tetap ada.

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Energy extranya it is already contained in this generator , an example of the conventional 10kVA generator exciter coil simply enter a power of 320W to the rotor coil that will transform it into magnetic energy , then the rotor will rotate at a speed of 1500rpm and mendptkan voltage of 220v , when the generator without load you can play it only with 10kVA generator 0.75kva tenga ( 1hp ) , but when the generators will increasingly heavy burden , it happens because their efect obtaining lenzlaw the opposite direction and cause the rotor need more tenga remedy berputr in putran tertntu , when the generator is not given load changes that occur in the stator poles are very large iron from the input , so I created a new generator that has a specially design , which can drain the efect lenz law to a different angle , fixed rotor induction of entry and large sngat and induction occurs when burdened can be streamed to the other , a simple example In the generator market : you 're running from the point A to C and in the middle there is a point B when you approach the corner b ye winds buffeted the opposite and when you pass you Mlah drawn , you definitely hard right to mencpai to the dot C , but on my generator that does not happen because there are no barriers negtif style was diverted towards the other is not destroyed krna energy lenz law remains.

Another comment also posted by Syair on Nov 12th

coba anda pahami : itu sangat berbeda dari generator konvensional,
Sepertinya anda trlalu trpku dengan kekekalan energy, Yang saya tau sih sprti itu krna memang sudh trbukti klu untk lbh jlas mngkn and bsa tnya kpada pmbuatnya yg prtma x, Saya hanya ingin share gambar detail serta cara krjanya jika ada yg brminat untk mmbuatnya, pada akhr tahun ini pihk indosat srta telkomsel yg berbsis di sumut akan merilis alat ini pada tiap2 tower yg bkerja sama pda prushaan KLE ( kaki langit energi ), jika anda berda di pulau jawa disna tptnya di bandung anda bsa search di google ( benwork free energy ) anda bsa membelinya dsna juga ada tpat pelthan free energy, atau jika anda brada di kawasan sumut anda bsa lngsug datang untk melihatnya tnggl pm saya aja, saat ini kami hanya menuggu izin perdgangan, itu yang sangat sulit karna negara ini mempunyai undang undang kelistrikan : Yang berhubungan tentang kelistrikan dalam bentuk apapun dikuasai seluruhnya oleh negara .Saya hanya bsa mnjwb sekedar itu tntang bgaimna energy itu datang krna saya hanye mereplika saja.Terima Kasih.

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try to understand : it is very different from a conventional generator ,
Looks like you trlalu trpku with eternity energy , which I know does it krna bleak indeed sudh trbukti Klu remedy lbh jlas mngkn and coud tnya kpada pmbuatnya who prtma x , I just wanted to share a picture detail and how krjanya if some remedy brminat mmbuatnya , on akhr this year pihk freeway srta Telkomsel who berbsis in sumut will release this tool on tiap2 tower that same bkerja pda prushaan KLE ( skyline energy ) , if you are arriving on the island of Java in Bandung disna tptnya you coud search in google ( benwork free energy ) you coud buy dsna also TPAT pelthan free energy , or if you are in the area Brada sumut you coud see lngsug come remedy tnggl pm I wrote , this time we only await the permission of Trade , it is very difficult because this country has laws of electricity : associated of electricity in any form entirely controlled by the state .I just bsa mnjwb tntang just the energy that comes krna bgaimna I Love saja.Terima Hanye replicate .

Oh rupanya cara kerjanya sama dengan konsep generator James w german, haha akhirnya saya tau, saya sudah lama ingin membuatnya tpi krna tidak ada biaya sih gan, krna temen ane sudah memiliki generator seperti ini tapi dengan metode fernando sixto ramos gan, tapi sayang jualnya gk pke otak 50juta untuk 5ribu watt tpi ya free energy, benwork juga menjual alat sperti ini harganya 25juta per 1000wattnya dengan energy magnet, saya sndri juga sudah melihatnya, tapi saya sangt tertarik dengan yang ini mna tau agan bisa jual lbh murah.
Oh ya gan hati2 soalnya tmen ane yang ngejual free energy gnertor metode sixto ramos sekrng tidak dapat mnjual itu lagi,hehe krna PLN melrangnya, saya kira kita telah dibodohi dan kita hidup dibwah kebohongan pemerintah yang slalu mementingkan diri sendri, Presiden sih bagus tapi yang bawahnya ini. Asuu..

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Oh apparently works the same way with the concept generator James w german , haha finally I know , I 've been wanting to make tpi krna no charge anyway gan , krna ane friend already has a generator like this but the method fernando ramos sixto gan , but unfortunately the selling gk brain pke 50 million for 5ribu watt tpi yes free energy , benwork also sell equipment just as it costs 25 million per 1000wattnya with magnetic energy , I sndri also already seen it, but I am interested in this sangt mna know lbh agan can sell cheap .
Oh ya hati2 because tmen ane ngejual free energy gnertor sixto ramos sekrng method can not mnjual it again , hehe krna PLN melrangnya , I think we have been fooled and we live dibwah government lies slalu selfish sendri , the President still good but the bottom Here you are. Asuu ..

Syair also posted a rebuttable to a comment on the 13th which was his last post on the forum. No info about the generator in the comment...



 

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