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Author Topic: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )  (Read 608369 times)

Jimboot

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #225 on: November 30, 2014, 11:29:45 AM »
Uploading new video now - more glow from incandescent no change on dmm or audible drag on motor

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #226 on: November 30, 2014, 12:48:08 PM »

Free,

You must be very rich, look at all the expensive capacitors :-)

Jimboot

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #227 on: November 30, 2014, 01:23:29 PM »

murmel

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #228 on: November 30, 2014, 11:07:27 PM »
No man, if i was than i wouldn't be in a spot on earth that i don't like     :(

I got these in a secondhand electronic store, they were around 2.5 or 3.5 euro each so bought a whole box of them    ;D

nice, where can i find that store ?
do they send to Sweden ?
Europe is the best spot :-)

Just..Sayin..

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #229 on: December 01, 2014, 07:12:38 AM »
Hello all, I am new to the forum but old in experience.

The first thing that proves that the video producer is fake or not is the motive.

1) This guy has only 2 videos, both videos are about the same invention. So he don't make any money from those videos (no ads).
2) The guy has made a cad file with his invention which takes time. If it was hoax he wouldn't mess with any cad.
3) The guy from his words you can understand that he try hard to explain but his English (as mine) are poor. But even with his average explanation you can easily understand the invention.
4) It is more than obvious that the generator is connected to the motor.

 My experience tells me that this invention is legit and the guy is legit as well.

I think you are right. People need to see the original video, the demonstrations without the motor driving the generator are very impressive... very! Producing the wattage by hand that is needed to run the three power tools is quite a feat. The power is clearly coming from the generator at that point in time.

Here is the original 37 minute video Syair edited for some reason or another, down to 25 minutes.

I also am wondering if the belt movement and sound change when welding is a result of the motor no longer having the current and voltage available to power it because of the drain on the generator from the welder.....or perhaps... is there a substantial amount of hysteresis being developed with the very high amperage draw?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKUFoWAuj0&list=UUaKHAdY13gp-un2hn_HJehg
« Last Edit: December 01, 2014, 03:20:51 PM by Just..Sayin.. »

lumen

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #230 on: December 01, 2014, 04:47:54 PM »
I think you are right. People need to see the original video, the demonstrations without the motor driving the generator are very impressive... very! Producing the wattage by hand that is needed to run the three power tools is quite a feat. The power is clearly coming from the generator at that point in time.

Here is the original 37 minute video Syair edited for some reason or another, down to 25 minutes.

I also am wondering if the belt movement and sound change when welding is a result of the motor no longer having the current and voltage available to power it because of the drain on the generator from the welder.....or perhaps... is there a substantial amount of hysteresis being developed with the very high amperage draw?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKUFoWAuj0&list=UUaKHAdY13gp-un2hn_HJehg

The original video was very impressive, that's why Syair should be showing the design for that generator instead of another design.
I for one would like to know the design of the same generator shown in the video and not some other plan that might work something like it.
 
If you had a generator that worked that well, why would you waste time trying to build a larger one?
With a few batteries it would be enough to run your entire house as is.
 

thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #231 on: December 01, 2014, 05:42:20 PM »
this idea of the generator is the greatest one of all times! there are two great powers while producing electricity by generators today one of them elektromagnet the other is generating coil that induces so much worse back EMF. force both of them duel with each other " iron wall is messenger" nothing to do with the fight!(this knowlage seems like divine rule.)
if one do not understand how it works then he must do as it said. But if you understand how, so simpler vertion is:

thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #232 on: December 01, 2014, 05:57:02 PM »
this idea of the generator is the greatest one of all times! there are two great powers while producing electricity by generators today one of them elektromagnet the other is generating coil that induces so much worse back EMF. force both of them duel with each other " iron wall is messenger" nothing to do with the fight!(this knowlage seems like divine rule.)
if one do not understand how it works then he must do as it said. But if you understand how, so simpler vertion is:
all iron laminations are isolated silicon steel but not necessary for the stationary magnets.
For Syairchairun design rator holders(inner disks that holding iron wall between magnets and coils) are non magnetic material like duraluminium as hard as it can be.

Kator01

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #233 on: December 01, 2014, 06:25:10 PM »
Hello,

I know you may not like this but it is not uncommon to have this kind of output by turning a pm-generator
by hand-power. So this alone is no proof.

See this generator-demo of a standard pm-generator produced by a polish company

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EVDhLQ17uk&list=UU7cu67V16UL5LfelkIyNPCA

regards

Kator01

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #234 on: December 01, 2014, 06:25:33 PM »
http://www.overunity.com/15083/the-new-generator-no-effect-counter-b-emf-part-2-selfrunning/dlattach/attach/144719/
in this attachment[/font][/size] four Shaded-pole stator can be found 100-200W fan motors, But some motors came with oil or oil free bearings can couse 100-200w friction on bearings! use ballbearings insted. you must cut also Shaded-pole short circuit coils. you can not use rator of the motor because of short circuited squirrel cage on it.
« Last Edit: December 02, 2014, 12:18:14 AM by thngr »

thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #235 on: December 01, 2014, 06:44:13 PM »
Hello,

I know you may not like this but it is not uncommon to have this kind of output by turning a pm-generator
by hand-power. So this alone is no proof.

See this generator-demo of a standard pm-generator produced by a polish company

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7EVDhLQ17uk&list=UU7cu67V16UL5LfelkIyNPCA

regards

Kator01


I gues you did see a lot of scam! But why are you here to read somehow. Try to analyse step by step.
what is happing ordanary generator and what is happening on this topic. there aren't all users read here because of same reason!

Just..Sayin..

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #236 on: December 01, 2014, 06:53:48 PM »

The original video was very impressive, that's why Syair should be showing the design for that generator instead of another design.
I for one would like to know the design of the same generator shown in the video and not some other plan that might work something like it.
 
If you had a generator that worked that well, why would you waste time trying to build a larger one?
With a few batteries it would be enough to run your entire house as is.

I too would like to see the original design. I believe it is much superior. You cannot beat the minimal rpm that is required. The cogging is very minimal for all the power that is being produced, and should not bother anyone... it is no big deal.

As for working on a different model it is very easy to understand why he is doing it, it is partly tunnel vision, and partly ego, we are all guilty of it at the best of times and we can never seem to leave 'well enough' alone.....

thngr

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #237 on: December 01, 2014, 06:56:16 PM »
I think you are right. People need to see the original video, the demonstrations without the motor driving the generator are very impressive... very! Producing the wattage by hand that is needed to run the three power tools is quite a feat. The power is clearly coming from the generator at that point in time.

Here is the original 37 minute video Syair edited for some reason or another, down to 25 minutes.

I also am wondering if the belt movement and sound change when welding is a result of the motor no longer having the current and voltage available to power it because of the drain on the generator from the welder.....or perhaps... is there a substantial amount of hysteresis being developed with the very high amperage draw?





kapanadze genarator can not weld, I think!

T-1000

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Re: The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )
« Reply #238 on: December 01, 2014, 07:49:56 PM »
this idea of the generator is the greatest one of all times! there are two great powers while producing electricity by generators today one of them elektromagnet the other is generating coil that induces so much worse back EMF. force both of them duel with each other " iron wall is messenger" nothing to do with the fight!(this knowlage seems like divine rule.)
if one do not understand how it works then he must do as it said. But if you understand how, so simpler vertion is:

How about this? :)
http://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=2678.msg43489#msg43489

Dog-One

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The "RamaGen"
« Reply #239 on: December 01, 2014, 09:16:06 PM »
So do we have any more news about this "RamaGen"?  From the source?

I'd like to think these two videos were not just teasers.