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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1140 on: August 10, 2017, 10:27:37 AM »


Tseung: "China is re-writing history.  China can use thin-air RMB, knowledge and technology to make every human being prosperous."

Lawyer: "India does not believe it.  India is sending some soldiers to provoke China by trying to stop the construction of a road.  India does not see that road as win-win.  So far, China does not show the act of great statesmanship.  China does not address the concerns of India but keep issuing warnings to India threatening war."


A Great Statesman would:

1.  Ask India to raise its concerns in United Nations or any appropriate International settings.
2.  Re-state the goals of OBOR as win-win for all.
3.  Suspend the building of the Road until the relationship is better.
4.  Demonstrate that China can use the exchanged Currency B to create more Modern Wealth for Nation B and China.
5.  Create wealth with Pakistan and encourage Pakistan and India to overcome the outdated British Strategy of "Divide and Rule".  Encourage eventual re-unification.  (Just mention the possible re-unification of Taiwan.)
6.  Slowly but surely take over the position of Number One Economic Power replacing USA.  Tell India that some day, India+Pakistan may take that Number One spot.  Do it in a peaceful manner so that all human beings enjoy the benefits.


*** The old Colonial approach would be:
1.  I can use Military Power to force you to do anything.  Your land is effectively mine.  You are allowed to live because of my mercy.
2.  The Red Indians virtually disappeared from the surface of the Earth.  That could have happened to any race without the knowledge and technology to protect itself.
3.  USA can wipe out North Korea and remove the nuclear threat totally.  USA might do it if there were no Russia and China (or other Nations possessing Nuclear Weapons).  The longer the delay, the more capable will be the North Korean Nuclear Missile capability.  This option will be too costly.  USA may have a few of its own cities destroyed.  (Thus the logical choice is to accept that North Korea will possess the Nuclear weapons and work with it in peace.)
4.  There is absolutely no advantage of China going to war with India.  Winning a small regional battle will continue to generate hatred in the hearts of Indians who still feel the humiliation and betrayal of the 1962 war.  Losing a small regional battle will escalate to a larger war that might lead to the use of the unthinkable nuclear arsenal.
5.  Suspend the building of a road would not harm the interest of China in any way.  Political climates change.  Who could have predicted that China and Philippines work together so well today?
6.  China needs time to show that OBOR is different from the Imperial and Colonial days - the Military Strong dictates.  China can easily help Pakistan to be rich.  China can encourage Pakistan and India to re-united or exist peacefully together.
7.  A British friend asked me: "England helped to produce a prosperous Hong Kong.  Why are the Hong Kong Citizens not grateful?"  What should be the answer???

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1141 on: August 12, 2017, 01:53:32 AM »
Strategy of China in the next 5 years:

1.   Complete the many Infrastructures in the Belt and Road Initiative with excellence.
2.   Introduce Mutual Credits to eliminate or reduce debts incurred by the Developing Nations.
3.   Use the exchanged currency B to make Nation B rich via profitable, short-term projects. 

4.   Develop Models from planning, constructing to completing. Get many Nations involved.
5.   Continue to do the monitoring via Internet using best on-line techniques.
6.   Separate the Projects into (a) long-term Infrastructure Projects that may have no financial returns.  Such Projects will be undertaken by Governments.  And (b) short-term profitable projects suitable for private investments.

7.   Provide Insurance and rescue projects that may have failed.  For example, some bridges may collapse.  Some oil pipes may crack.  Some electricity stations may catch fire.  Some dams may under-perform.  Some e-commerce sites may fail to deliver.

8.   Avoid war at all costs.  Focus on the eventual Globalization when all Human Beings can travel to, tour or work anywhere on Earth with respect and happiness.  Patriotism and National Boundaries will fade.

9.   Experiment with Super Democracy so that voters can participate early in policy making via structured internet forums and vote easily later in policy decisions.
10.   Get two camps to compete to help Developing Nations rich.  One camp can be headed by USA+Japan and allies.  Another Camp can be Russia+China and allies.
11.   Develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality.  Everything is third class.  Develop it to second or first class.  Examine and change the many unfair financial rules.  Look out for the economic war situations such as those in the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis or the unregulated Forex Exchanges of today.

12.   Seek win-win in every situation.  Capital, knowledge and technology are no longer scarce commodities.  Any Nation can become prosperous within one generation.  Let them learn and define their own paths via the models and Internet.

13.   Use the over-capacity well.  Give the thin-air money, knowledge and technology generously to under-developed regions in China.  Ensure that the minority races have equal or better opportunities.  Expand to beyond the borders of China.  The One Belt One Road is just a start.  Once successful, extend it to Central or South America.  Do not worry about touching the backyards of other Nations.
14.  Do not stop until every Human Being on Earth has food security, comfortable home, education, medical care, social security and self-confidence.
15.  There is no need to actively seek the Leadership Role.  Nations will look at the success examples.  Encourage them to treat such examples as third class.  Copy, improve and innovate.  Continue to host the International One Belt One Road Conferences.  Put much more effort into the Internet Forums.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1142 on: August 16, 2017, 04:55:26 PM »


A Great Statesman would:

1.  Ask India to raise its concerns in United Nations or any appropriate International settings.
2.  Re-state the goals of OBOR as win-win for all.
3.  Suspend the building of the Road until the relationship is better.
4.  Demonstrate that China can use the exchanged Currency B to create more Modern Wealth for Nation B and China.
5.  Create wealth with Pakistan and encourage Pakistan and India to overcome the outdated British Strategy of "Divide and Rule".  Encourage eventual re-unification.  (Just mention the possible re-unification of Taiwan.)
6.  Slowly but surely take over the position of Number One Economic Power replacing USA.  Tell India that some day, India+Pakistan may take that Number One spot.  Do it in a peaceful manner so that all human beings enjoy the benefits.


*** The old Colonial approach would be:
1.  I can use Military Power to force you to do anything.  Your land is effectively mine.  You are allowed to live because of my mercy.
2.  The Red Indians virtually disappeared from the surface of the Earth.  That could have happened to any race without the knowledge and technology to protect itself.
3.  USA can wipe out North Korea and remove the nuclear threat totally.  USA might do it if there were no Russia and China (or other Nations possessing Nuclear Weapons).  The longer the delay, the more capable will be the North Korean Nuclear Missile capability.  This option will be too costly.  USA may have a few of its own cities destroyed.  (Thus the logical choice is to accept that North Korea will possess the Nuclear weapons and work with it in peace.)
4.  There is absolutely no advantage of China going to war with India.  Winning a small regional battle will continue to generate hatred in the hearts of Indians who still feel the humiliation and betrayal of the 1962 war.  Losing a small regional battle will escalate to a larger war that might lead to the use of the unthinkable nuclear arsenal.
5.  Suspend the building of a road would not harm the interest of China in any way.  Political climates change.  Who could have predicted that China and Philippines work together so well today?
6.  China needs time to show that OBOR is different from the Imperial and Colonial days - the Military Strong dictates.  China can easily help Pakistan to be rich.  China can encourage Pakistan and India to re-united or exist peacefully together.
7.  A British friend asked me: "England helped to produce a prosperous Hong Kong.  Why are the Hong Kong Citizens not grateful?"  What should be the answer???

A member of the Democratic Party in Hong Kong claimed that he was kidnapped by people from Beijing and tortured.  He got the support of the Democratic Party, held a press conference and showed staple wounds.  It immediately become front page news.

In Hong Kong, there are numerous security cameras especially in busy street from private stores.  Such videotapes showed that he walked and boarded a minibus safely.  The Democratic Party still backed him.

Are politicians that stupid?  In the International front, some Indian Soldiers tried to stop China building a road.  They did not use arms but just pushed and produced body contacts.  Was that stupidity? 

That politician got media attention.  The Indian Soldiers got International Attention.  Did they achieved their goal?
 
Did India convinced the World that the OBOR initiative from China was not all peaceful and not win-win???

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1143 on: August 17, 2017, 01:22:41 AM »

A member of the Democratic Party in Hong Kong claimed that he was kidnapped by people from Beijing and tortured.  He got the support of the Democratic Party, held a press conference and showed staple wounds.  It immediately become front page news.

In Hong Kong, there are numerous security cameras especially in busy street from private stores.  Such videotapes showed that he walked and boarded a minibus safely.  The Democratic Party still backed him.

Are politicians that stupid?  In the International front, some Indian Soldiers tried to stop China building a road.  They did not use arms but just pushed and produced body contacts.  Was that stupidity? 

That politician got media attention.  The Indian Soldiers got International Attention.  Did they achieved their goal?
 
Did India convinced the World that the OBOR initiative from China was not all peaceful and not win-win???

Sometimes a Political Party had to back up the stupid action of its members.  Does that apply to backing up some soldiers crossing the Border?

Some Indian Politicians may see the following advantages:

1.  If China over-reacts, it will show that OROB is not win-win.

2.  Patriotism always helps to unite the Nation.

3.  Indians will buy more Indian made goods and boycott the cheaper and better Chinese goods.

4.  The politicians get more publicity by supporting the action of the Indian Soldiers.

5.  The Military will be given a higher budget.  The pro-Japanese camp will win the High Speed Rail Contracts.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1144 on: August 17, 2017, 11:23:59 PM »
Can India have a faster pace of development than China?

1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?
2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
3.  Will India avoid wars?
4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1145 on: August 17, 2017, 11:46:06 PM »

Can India have a faster pace of development than China?

1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?
2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
3.  Will India avoid wars?
4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?


1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?

The Super Silicon Valley Mentality was first developed in USA when the Computer Companies reverse engineered each other's products.  The Mentality is essential in that cut-throat competitive environment.  Scientists and Engineers will not contend to be second-best.


I worked closely with many Indian Engineers  since the 1970s.  Almost all engineers of all Nationalities were subjected to such mentality.  We reverse-engineered products.  We debated on possible improvements.  We worked for long hours.  We discussed issues over pints of beer. 


I am absolutely certain that some of the Indian Engineers I worked with also developed the Super Silicon Valley Mentality.  Many went back to India and developed their impressive IT industry inside India.

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« Reply #1146 on: August 17, 2017, 11:59:52 PM »

Can India have a faster pace of development than China?

1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?
2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
3.  Will India avoid wars?
4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?

2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?

China is suffering from the bad effects of the polluting industries.  At one time, China was focusing on low cost production.  The toxic wastes were just dumped into the rivers.  The polluting exhausts or smoke were simply released into the atmosphere. 

The car industry was developed without regard to pollution and traffic jams.  Now, China is considering High Speed Rail as a better solution.  Much more attention is paid to subway trains, light rails, traffic-jam free cities, shared cars and bicycles etc.

Solar and Wind energies are given high priorities in China.  India will not ignore such.  India depends on imported oil more than China.  It must examine all energy sources more carefully.

The area of India is much smaller than China.  The population is roughly equal and may surpass that of China soon. Polluting the environment will have a more harmful effect...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1147 on: August 18, 2017, 04:11:28 PM »


Can India have a faster pace of development than China?

1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?
2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
3.  Will India avoid wars?
4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?

3.  Will India avoid wars?

At the back of the mind of many Indians, the 1962 defeat by China is a humiliation that must be revenged.  It is similar to the Opium War when China was humiliated by the British.  China no longer seek war with Britain or the West.  But China wants to show that it is better than the West.  (Even many of us who studied and worked in the West for many years harbor that thought.)

Hong Kong was a British Colony for 99 years.  India was a British Colony longer than that.  At one time, the British Ruling Class enjoyed many special privileges.  Even some parks had the sign that "Chinese and Dogs are not allowed".  Some British questioned why the Hong Kong Chinese were not grateful for the Civilization, Knowledge, Religion, Law and Order, Democratic Values, Science and Technology know-how.  Some British claimed that Hong Kong became an important Financial Center because it was under British Rule.  During the Cultural Revolution in the 1960s, many Chinese Refugees crossed the Border to settle in Hong Kong.

Now Hong Kong has been returned to China.  To our delight, the Chinese Economy developed rapidly.  Have we forgotten the "Century of Humiliation"?  It was one of the strongest driving forces.  That driving force is one of the reasons behind the rise of the Dragon.

My guess is that the 1962 humiliation suffered by India provides a very strong driving force.  It is helping the rise of the Elephant.

The ruling elites of both China and India do not want war.  But the citizens can be easily incited to do stupid things.  Few would like to see an all out nuclear war.  But many Indians want to have a "controlled war of revenge" as judged by their news media.

The Think Tanks from both China and India should now step onto the stage. Avoid war at all costs.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #1148 on: August 19, 2017, 12:25:27 AM »

 
Can India have a faster pace of development than China?
 
 1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then [font=]strive to turn them into second or first class?[/font]
 2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
 3.  Will India avoid wars?
 4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
 5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
 6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
 7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
 8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
 9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
 10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
 11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
 12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
 13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?

4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of
State Capitalism?

The old style of Five Year Plans without computers relied much on humans and often unreliable information.  They were “great leap forwards” of faith.  Now the many what-if scenarios can be played out.  The progress of any project can be monitored.  Compensation money can be deposited directly to the Bank Accounts of the affected families and traced.

The teachings of Market Forces from the West are now discredited.  The 1997 Asian Financial Crisis showed that “crocodile speculators” from USA could destroy entire economies.  The 2008 World Financial Crisis showed that Greed of some Investment Bankers could rock the fundamental financial trust.  The subtle and unpublished 2016 attack on RMB drained one Trillion USD of the Chinese Currency reserve.  Fortunately, China finally realized that it did not need to play by the unregulated Forex Exchange Rules.  China can ignore the speculative market forces and specify its own RMB Exchange Rate.

India must have learned the lessons.  Its massive infrastructure plans are long term.  It does not seek funds from IMF or World Bank.  It will print its thin-air money to develop such infrastructures.  It will not rely on Exports to generate the needed capital.  It will learn, copy and improve the required technologies.

India knows that it needs both hands – State Planning and Private Entrepreneurship – to move ahead.

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« Reply #1149 on: August 19, 2017, 02:12:55 AM »

 
Can India have a faster pace of development than China?
 
 1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?
 2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
 3.  Will India avoid wars?
 4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
 5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
 6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
 7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
 8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
 9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
 10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
 11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
 12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
 13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?
5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?

Corruption occurs when there is financial or other interests involved.  The worst is group corruption.  Some developing countries learned the printing of thin-air money.  They let it out of control.  Instead of using the thin-air money to generate more Meaningful Economic Activities, they destroyed the “trust” in such papers.

The old corruption in Hong Kong and China would affect the lives of ordinary citizens.  For example, in the 1960s, if you want to get a driver’s license, you have to give a hundred Hong Kong Dollar Bill to the examiner.  If you were a street hawker, you had to pay a small sum to avoid arrest.  The illegal businesses (prostitution, gambling and drugs) were protected by the Police.

In the 1960s in China, everyone was poor.  There was not much money changing hands.  But when China opened up in the 1980s, there were few controls.  The sons and daughters of Senior Officials were encouraged to go into Business.  They could obtain Bank Loans via their connections.  Soon, enterprising individuals or companies found that if they could connect to such Princelings, their businesses would flourish.  The 1989 student protest was a result.

The Communist Party realized that they must develop the economy at a fast pace to hold on to power.  Officials were promoted according to their ability to generate wealth.  Official went out of their ways to attract investment and foster economic growth.  One example was my friend receiving a phone call at 11pm at night from Officials working on the application of his proposal.  I asked: “It is 11pm now.  Does Chinese Officials work this late?”  The reply: “They are more like business partners.”

Nowadays, Corrupt Officials are afraid to show their wealth.  They and their relatives dare not drive expensive cars, wear luxury jewelry or own mansions.  If they were photographed, their careers will suffer.  What is the point of corruption when one cannot enjoy it?

India is in a similar phase.  The Internet Technology in India is advanced.  India is moving in the direction of the cashless society.

Corruption can be traced easily.  Most politicians realized that they could help their sons and daughters to enter into legitimate businesses. That helped the economy.

Singapore is a good example of State Capitalism.  The Government is actively helping the private sector with information, connections, funding and policies.  Officials are well paid.  If they were found or suspected to be corrupt, they would be “finished”.  Singapore is a small place with nowhere to hide.  It is better to be clean and help the private sector (including friends and relatives) to become wealthy.  It is legitimate and respected.

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« Reply #1150 on: August 19, 2017, 07:09:55 AM »


Can India have a faster pace of development than China?

1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?
2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
3.  Will India avoid wars?
4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?

6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?


There is no doubt that the IT industry in India is amongst the best in the World.  There are talks of providing every citizen a smart phone that can act as identity card, bank card, credit card, e-commerce card, medical card, social service card, education and entertainment tool.

The cost of providing such a smart phone is less than providing the education to achieve the necessary knowledge and know-how with the traditional methods.  At one time, there was talk of a smart phone produced in India that would be less than USD30.  The Indian Government might subsidize such a device.

In the affluent West, everything is linked to money.  US Citizens will automatically think about the cost of the Apple i-phone and conclude that such is an impossible dream.

But technology can be learned.  Computers were thought to be outside the budget and knowledge of the average citizen.  Within half a generation, it has reached every corner of the Earth.  My six year old granddaughter can play with the i-pads and i-phones better than me.

If the Indians are determined, they can produce miracles.  There is no need to follow the traditional path of copper telephone lines, highways, coal fired electricity generators, schools with teachers and blackboards, banks and paper money.  Those are third class stuff that need to be replaced...
 

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« Reply #1151 on: August 19, 2017, 09:15:36 AM »


Can India have a faster pace of development than China?

1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?
2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
3.  Will India avoid wars?
4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?

7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?

So far, the Internet has proven to be the most efficient way of spreading information.  Anyone can be a source of information.  It produces information overload.  Good and bad are mixed together.

Will the Indian Government be able to fund “recommended websites”?  Will it be able to stand the expected criticism? Will it be able to use the structured Internet Forums to provide “real information”?

I believe the West dominated for the last 500 years because of technology, technology and technology.  Technology can be learned – even if the West wants to suppress certain parts of it.  North Korea demonstrated that even nuclear missile technology can be learned.

China under Mao advocated self-reliance.  Without the knowledge base, the path was difficult.  Mao called for the Cultural Revolution to suppress the many failures.  Many dams were substandard.  Many village steel were useless.  Many deep ploughing methods yielded less crops.  Political loyalty was more important than scientific knowledge.

China under Deng changed all that. Special Economic Zones were created.  Foreign investment was welcome.  Technical knowledge became key.  There were many areas thought to be essential were really unnecessary.  These areas include:
1.       Pollute the environment is a necessary price to pay for development.
2.       Subsidizing exports and earning large Foreign Currency Reserves is always the best policy.  This is similar to an individual producing more goods and having a larger number in the Bank Account.
3.       Listening to the West on the Financial Rules of Market Forces, need to borrow from IMF or World Bank, keeping US Dollar or US Treasury Bills, need to play in the unregulated Forex Exchange Markets to keep the RMB Exchange Rate…
4.       The superiority of the West must not be challenged.  The West provided real civilization of equality, democracy, freedom, religion and rule of Law.  The traditional Chinese ways of Emperors were concentrating the power and wealth to the hands of Royal Families.  Such ways essentially enslaved the rest of the Nation.
5.       Communism must be given up totally.  USSR fell for it.

India, with its IT technology, watched and learned.   Its news media is less controlled and thus less one-sided.  In most cases, that will help to produce a better solution.  (Avoid Wars at all costs!)
 

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« Reply #1152 on: August 19, 2017, 02:46:40 PM »


Can India have a faster pace of development than China?

1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?
2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
3.  Will India avoid wars?
4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?

8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?

China focused on exports as its main engine of growth at one time.  It actually subsidized its exports via policies and taxes.  It produced a large surplus of Exports over Imports.  At one time, it did not realize that its large population of 1.3 billion already provided a large market. 

India has a similar large population.  It does not rely on export as the main engine of growth.  This has the advantage that the growth is less dependent on outside factors.  The World paid less attention to India as fewer Indian Goods dominate the World Market.

When a Nation focuses on Exports, it has to try to become the lowest cost producer.  The task of India is to get many of its poor out of poverty.  China expects to lift every citizen out of poverty by 2020.  India may be a few years behind.
 
With a different set of goals, different actions will result.  India will not aim to “please the foreign customers”.  India aims to “please its workers”.  India can produce goods and services for its own citizens.  India can focus on reducing pollution, providing healthy working conditions, giving adequate social services and equalizing opportunities.  India does not worry about food security. India does not worry about education. India does not aim to accumulate large Foreign Currency Reserves.  India does not worry about mastering high technology.  India can have a different development model from China (or from the West).
 

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« Reply #1153 on: August 20, 2017, 03:16:07 PM »

Can India have a faster pace of development than China?

1.  Can India develop the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class?  Then strive to turn them into second or first class?
2.  Will India forget or bypass the unnecessary polluting Industries?
3.  Will India avoid wars?
4.  Will India develop the Five Year Plans and go for the good elements of State Capitalism?
5.  Will India be able to overcome corruption and adopt the Singapore Model?
6.  Will India be able to go for the cashless society with its advantages of efficiency and monitoring of use of funds?
7.  Will India be able to use the Internet for the best education and spread of "real" information?
8.  Will India be able to gear its production both for exports and internal consumption?
9.  Will India be able to become the lowest cost producer in some industries?
10. Will India be able to copy, improve and innovate faster than any other Nation on Earth?
11. Will India be able to go for Super Democracy first and unite the Nation better than all other Nations?
12. Will India be able to develop the self-confidence to say - "whatever you can do, I can do better!"?
13. The advantage of the West was due to technology, technology and technology.  Will India be able to overtake in technology, technology and technology?


 [font=]9.  Will India be able to become the [font=]lowest cost producer in some industries[/font]?[/color][/font]
 
 At one time, Economists advocated that Nations should become the lowest cost producers in order to beat the competition.  The workers should accept lower wages.  The pollution to the environment should be tolerated.  Every effort should be focused on efficiency and cutting costs.  Success of any Nation is measured in the accumulation of its Foreign Currency Reserve.
  Now, Economists start to question the advantage of holding a large Foreign Currency Reserve.  More are advocating balanced trade.  Protection of the environment has taken importance.  Welfare of the workers will not be ignored.
India, with its large and growing population, can beat China in terms of low wages.  Its IT technology is providing it an edge in management and marketing.  Should it try to become the lowest producer in some industries?
I was having lunch in a famous noodle restaurant.  I had the following conversation.
Tseung: “Your beef noodle is excellent but your menu is limited.  Have you ever considered increasing your menu?”
Manager: “Most customers order the beef noodle.  Many come because of this particular dish.  Our chef cooked this dish for over 20 years.  He is also a co-owner.  He does not want to expand and earn more money.” 
Tseung: “He can open many branches.  Let more people enjoy this excellent dish.  He can make much more money without too much hard ."
 

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« Reply #1154 on: August 21, 2017, 07:56:42 AM »
The first draft of the document is saved in RTF format in overunityresearch.com under the thread One Belt One Road.  Reply 125.


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