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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #285 on: December 20, 2015, 10:49:47 PM »
Some amazing results when we use the average V*I analysis method.  Waveform expanded by Paint for ease of analysis.

Note that the current (voltage across an one ohm resistor) =0.2A  when the Voltage registered 68.8V.

That single result (back emf?) produced the unexpected high COP.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #286 on: December 22, 2015, 08:49:13 AM »
Reply 301 is incorrect.  There is no need to focus on the leading edge.  The time interval interested should be around 50ms and not 5ms.


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #287 on: December 22, 2015, 01:42:26 PM »
Experimental Result using 4 Magnets for Jumping

The COP value improved from 1.5 to 1.94.

The experience so far indicates:

1.  Use more turns (300 and up) produces higher magnetic repulsion.
2.  Use more magnets (up to 4 tried) increases both m and h.  Higher mass and higher jump. 

Both points increase COP significantly.

More experiments will be done to gain more knowledge and experience.

Overunity is confirmed with the setup and assumptions.  Will encourage more people to replicate.

UFOs are flying.  Many are USA and China Made.  Will they disclose the Top Secret?

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« Reply #287 on: December 22, 2015, 01:42:26 PM »
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #288 on: December 22, 2015, 02:54:59 PM »
Hello,
simple question: the time base in the dso pictures looks to be 100ms; if one square is 100 ms then the pulse duration should be around 250 ms
Why did you mention 50ms?
thanks
guido

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #289 on: December 22, 2015, 07:31:10 PM »
The circuit.

One common mistake was ignoring the common ground between the CH1 and CH2 scope probes. 

Once that is connected properly, it is easy to see that the CH1 (current) waveform should be inverted to show proper display.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #290 on: December 22, 2015, 07:55:32 PM »
Hello,
simple question: the time base in the dso pictures looks to be 100ms; if one square is 100 ms then the pulse duration should be around 250 ms
Why did you mention 50ms?
thanks
guido

Good Question. 

The waveform represents the full duration of the Pulse.  The duration depends on how long the experimenter holds down the switch and can vary greatly with every attempt.  In the diagram shown, it was about 250ms.  Some experimenters held the switch for more than 500ms.

We need to consider what time interval the magnetic repulsion is most effective.  It is definitely NOT 250ms or 500ms.  I used the time for the magnet to jump 10 cm away from the coil as the guideline.  If the DC current is constantly supplied, the repelling height is around 5cm.  The time for the magnet to jump 10cm (twice the repelling distance of 5 cm) is 50ms or less.  That can be calculated from the free fall equations.

This is one of the most important assumptions in the experiment.  We do not use the full Pulse Time.  We use a "Jump away 10 cm" time.  The use of 10 cm is somewhat arbitrary.  We can use a different number in the analysis.

At present, we are experimenting with different number of jump magnets and different number of turns in the solenoids.  The number 50ms or "Jump away 10cm time" gives overunity across all the experiments.  When we use solenoids of 500 turns and up (and/or 4 or more jumping magnets), we can make even bolder assumptions such as "jump away 20cm time".

Keep such good questions coming...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #291 on: December 22, 2015, 11:48:48 PM »
Picture justifying the use of "jump away height of 10cm".

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #292 on: December 23, 2015, 12:12:07 PM »
More on the interaction of the constant Gravitational Force Fg and the rapidly decreasing magnetic force Fm.

1.  Fg is always downwards.
2.  Fm is treated as upwards in this experiment.
3.  Fm is greatest at Position P1.  Fm is definitely greater than Fg so that the magnet jumps up.
4.  The magnet will increase velocity from 0 (rest position) at Position P1.  If we assume the repulsion force varies inversely as the square of the distance, the Force Fm will decrease rapidly.  However, we should think in terms of the magnetic flux or magnetic lines of force.  That may decrease less rapidly.
5.  If Fm = Fg at P3 position (approximately 5cm),  Can we assume that after another 5 cm, Fm will further decrease.  The decrease will make the passing of electric energy to magnetic energy and then mechanical energy insignificant.
6.  Even if the switch is pressed down allowing current to flow through, the actual energy transferred to magnetic and mechanical energy is small.

Think along those lines and I am happy to hear comments.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #293 on: December 23, 2015, 03:50:07 PM »
thanks for the explanations
wouldn't be easier to make the pulse adjustable? a 555 driving a transistor or even simpler, several reed switches in parallel, at different heights (up to were you want the pulse to be on) driving a relay to the coil (just trowing ideas).
As you are spotting in your last posts, the 10cm is an important assumption but also the free fall one is.
The acceleration imparted on the mass during the 10 cm trip is not even constant and its average is not trivial while the free fall time assumes  this is 9.81 m/s2 .
What we know is that at 5cm the Accel of that given mass is equal to 9.81 m/s2 as the two forces are balanced; below 5 cm the acceler. is greater and above is lower.
In other words
Accel = MagneticForce / Mass = g     @ 5cm height

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #294 on: December 23, 2015, 07:17:43 PM »
thanks for the explanations
wouldn't be easier to make the pulse adjustable? a 555 driving a transistor or even simpler, several reed switches in parallel, at different heights (up to were you want the pulse to be on) driving a relay to the coil (just trowing ideas).
As you are spotting in your last posts, the 10cm is an important assumption but also the free fall one is.
The acceleration imparted on the mass during the 10 cm trip is not even constant and its average is not trivial while the free fall time assumes  this is 9.81 m/s2 .
What we know is that at 5cm the Accel of that given mass is equal to 9.81 m/s2 as the two forces are balanced; below 5 cm the acceler. is greater and above is lower.
In other words
Accel = MagneticForce / Mass = g     @ 5cm height
@guidoc66

You are correct. One of the research direction is controlling the timing of the pulse.  If we can adjust the Pulse time from 20ms to 200ms, (in your words - a 555 driving a transistor) we can detect whether we get overunity.  Can the small pulse time provide the electrical energy (then convert to magnetic and mechanical) to provide overunity results?

This bring us to the workings of the 225 HP Pulse Motor.  It requires starting the pulse at the "exact time" and then turn off the pulse as soon as the magnetic repulsion finishes its effective range (in ms or less?).

(One possible control mechanism is via laser detection.)

If the 225 HP Pulse Motor (and possibly other Pulse Motors) works, the design in reply 1 of this thread will work.  That lead-out energy flying saucer design is worth looking into.

UFOs are flying.  Many are made in USA or China.  Now, we understand the Physics behind their workings.  The first simple proof-of-concept experiment seems to indicate its validity...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #295 on: December 24, 2015, 04:16:03 PM »
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Bill Fung and TS Lau will manage the videotaping of the first proof-of-concept experiment.  Much more work is needed.

I shall plan on the second experiment - circular motion.  The second experiment may already point to the full design of the lead-out energy flying saucer.

Can Hong Kong produce a lead-out energy flying saucer prototype?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #296 on: December 24, 2015, 10:50:38 PM »
Experiment done on Dec 25, 2015

On Tseung Coil at 17.5V.  No surprises.

COP = 2.05

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #297 on: December 25, 2015, 10:52:43 AM »
More experiments on Dec 25.

Tseung Coil with 4 magnets at 12V.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #298 on: December 25, 2015, 10:56:02 AM »
More experiments on Dec 25.

Tseung Coil with 4 magnets at 24V.

Best COP.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #299 on: December 26, 2015, 12:43:13 AM »
Can a garage mechanic with a DSO replicate the overunity experiment?

The question was raised in the Christmas Party.  My answer was a qualified YES.  The mechanic would have to do a 300 turn or up winding.  He needed to know how to use the DSO properly.  He needed to know the use of EXCEL to do the analysis.

He could gain most of the above knowledge from my posts in this thread.

If the mechanic were an academic establishment such as the Electrical Engineering Department of an University or a Military Research Department of a Nation, the answer will be a definite YES.

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