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ltseung888

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« Reply #240 on: December 01, 2015, 11:39:17 AM »
12.  Do you think that your postings will benefit Humanity?

Yes.  My Church friends told me to follow Divine Guidance.  Pray and do what feels right.  Men have their weaknesses; fears; uncertainties; doubts; frustrations; greed; vanity; hesitations; despairs etc.

Some fellow scientists insisted that one should only post when one is absolutely sure.  The posts should only contain results that have been experimentally verified.  Anything less is misguidance.

I like the comments from Prof. Dennis Leung of Hong Kong University.  His comments were that we should do proof-of-concept experiments that were simple and could be verified Worldwide.  All the posts should be regarded as “pass time” from an old, retired person.  The real value and benefits will come when the proper scientific report is published…

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« Reply #241 on: December 01, 2015, 11:57:43 PM »
Question: If the Electromagnet Repulsion experiment is successful, the one time overunity (COP>1) is confirmed and verified beyond a shadow of doubt, can useful machines be developed?

If the experiment is successful, the lead-out energy theory will be verified in this particular case.  In other words, a small Electric DC energy can align the tiny magnets in the ferromagnetic material to produce a very strong magnet to do work.  The Output Potential Energy is the sum of the Input Electrical Energy and the Lead-out Magnetic Energy. 

The next logical question is - can we use circular motion to do the same thing?

The post in reply 1 of this thread (posted in June reposted here) already provided the answer.  The Pulsed Drive Coil is essentially the small Electric DC Energy Input supply.  The straight line up and down path is changed to circular.  The Collector Coils turn the Input DC electrical Energy PLUS the Lead-out Magnetic Energy into useful Output Electrical Energy.  The additional bonus is the Net Thrust turning the set up into an UFO engine.

The 225 HP Pulse Motor developed in USA, funded by Andrew Wong of Hong Kong (Jupiter fund), explained by the Late Mr. Lee Cheung Kin and myself at Tsinghua University in 2006 is a working example.  All Nations should repeat the Hong Kong University experiment and then proceed to do the one slice 225 HP Pulse Motor experiment.  That will lead to numerous applications of the Lead-out Energy Flying Sauce theory.

The Race is ON.

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« Reply #242 on: December 02, 2015, 12:10:40 AM »
If the USA and Chinese Governments know about the 225 HP Pulse Motor in 2006, what is the possibility of their developing UFOs successfully by now (2015)?

Anyone want to make a guess?  Anyone want to bet?

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« Reply #243 on: December 02, 2015, 01:49:05 PM »
How should Hong Kong handle the Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer Technology?

1.    Monitor the progress of the Scientific Report on the Electromagnet Repulsion Experiment.  This is expected to be a formal endorsement of the Lead-out Energy Theory. 

2.    Encourage multiple groups at Universities and private Organizations to do the experiment even before the formal publication of the Scientific Report.  Hong Kong Citizens pride themselves as fast acting.

3.    Get the support of the News Media.  The Headline that Hong Kong can design an UFO will get attention.  Co-ordinate this with the multiple results in 2 and the Scientific Report in 1.

4.    The New Department of Innovation and Technology was formed in November 2015.  Its involvement will cause excitement.  Get the Hong Kong Government and Politicians involved.

5.   Re-publish the story of the 225 HP Pulse Motor that was developed in USA, funded by Jupiter Fund of Hong Kong and explained at Tsinghua University in 2006.

6.    Put great emphasis on why USA and China kept the technology as top secret.  Discuss the UFO like missile on Nov 7, 2015 seen by thousands in Southern California.  Talk more about the UFO youtube video in 2006 at Nanjing.

7.    Start organizing academic and business forums and conferences.  Invite International participation.  Have full sets of the proof-of-concept experiment ready to loan out.  Start the competition on the implementation of the UFO as outlined in reply 1 of this thread.

8.    Formally introduce the concepts of Modern Wealth, Meaningful Economic Activities, Mutual Credits, Super Silicon Valley Mentality, Super Democracy, Love Thy Enemies, International Brotherhood, etc.  Start Forums to discuss such issues.

9.    Introduce the concept of an Experimental City to implement Lead-out Energy Flying Saucers.  Introduce pollution free energy, Freedom from the Electric Grid, UFO motion objects, QMOGENs, etc.  Get the Hong Kong Citizens feel proud that they can lead this technology.  Hong Kong can become an Innovation Center in addition to tourism and finance.

10.   Use the financial strength of Hong Kong.  Start an International Investment Fund to handle this venture.  Get some niche products out as soon as possible.

*** Similar steps can be taken by many other Nations.  The Race is ON.

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« Reply #244 on: December 02, 2015, 08:51:23 PM »
How should Hong Kong promote International Brotherhood?

The most convincing way to promote anything is to show success.  For example, when USSR collapsed after the Cold War, USA emerged as the only super power.  US politicians claimed that it was democracy and capitalism that would bring prosperity.  The World listened.  Very few people possess the Super Silicon Valley Mentality and treat everything as third class.  They just believed that the USA model was the best.

Singapore provided a new success story.  Singapore has elections but is effectively a one-party Nation,  The State participated in every aspect of the Society - including the ban on chewing gums.  China followed that model and the success has been phenomenal.  The Developing Nations now look favorably to this new model.

It is success that will inspire.  If Hong Kong were to preach International Brotherhood, it must demonstrate success.  The success of the proof-of-concept experiment will propel Hong Kong to new heights.  Hong Kong can immediately introduce the idea of International Brotherhood/Sisterhood by inviting International participation in this Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer Research and Development.

Hong Kong can set up an International Investment Fund inviting all Nations to participate.  The participation will take the form of some investment capital, academic conferences, business forums emphasizing on International Partnership.  Every Nation is encouraged to own a piece of this Investment Fund.  The decisions will be via Internet Forums and voting.  The votes may vary with the amount of Investment but every Nation is guaranteed a "voice" and a vote.   There will be a cap on how many votes a Nation can have no matter the amount of investment.  This will overcome the drawback of Rich Nations dominating the Decision Making.  This will have the elements of Super Democracy.

The research results will be shared.  The testing will be shared.  The profits from the products will be shared.  The conferences or forums will be "hosted" by various joint Nations or some topics will be assigned to different joint Nations.  The goal is to make every Nation feel that they have a part to play. 

The Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer is to bring prosperity to all.  All are Brothers and Sisters.  There will be new knowledge; new wealth; new way of doing things and new attitudes.  Every individual in every Nation is born equal and has the right to achieve his/her best without doing harm to others. 
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« Reply #245 on: December 02, 2015, 11:32:03 PM »
More on International Brotherhood/Sisterhood

The Hong Kong initiated International Investment Fund can order one of each important product related to the Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer Technology from every Nation and give that to another Nation as a gift.  This will ensure that every Nation is capable of producing every important product.

The first product can be a full set of apparatus to do the electromagnet repulsion experiment.  A Nation can buy parts from another Nation and add its own favor.  It can include its own Country Map or other innovations.  Every Nation is expected to treat the Hong Kong Prototype as third class and improve it to second or first class.  Every Nation will use its best talent even if it produces only one sample.  The National pride will be stimulated.

Will that be a good thing to lead to International Brotherhood/Sisterhood?

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« Reply #246 on: December 03, 2015, 01:54:22 AM »
How should Hong Kong promote Mutual Credits?

The Hong Kong initiated International Investment Fund can set its shares at the equivalent of USD1 million per share.  Each Share will have the equivalent of 1 voting right.  The cap is 10 voting rights.  Even if a Nation invests more than USD10 million, it can only have 10 voting rights.

In addition, a Nation can use Mutual Credits with this Fund.  A Nation can provide its own currency to the equivalent of USD1 million to gain 1 share.  The Fund can use this Nation's Currency to order products from this Nation.  Essentially, the Fund does not need to come up with any of its own reserve to get the goods and give them as gifts to other Nations.  If a Nation wants to have more than 1 share, it will have to supply hard currency.  Thus the Fund will have actual working capital.

After the Fund has been established for awhile and gained reputation, the Fund can be open to Institutional and wealthy investors.  The Fund is expected to be extremely profitable as it is associated with the new technology and can invest in almost any country.  The good will and Meaningful Economic Activities will generate profits.  The dividends will be high.  The Shares will then be tradable.  Additional shares will first be offered to the Nations.

At the same time, the Fund can teach and promote Mutual Credits.  It can rely on the support of wealthy Nations such as China.  China can have a Mutual Credit arrangement with Nation A of an amount equal to X.  The experiment and experience can be monitored and promoted by the Fund.  Nation A will incur no debt and has X amount to buy goods and services from China.  China has X amount to invest in Nation A especially in the Special Economic Zones.  The win-win will provide a faster GDP growth for both Nations.

The Fund may even play a management role and earn fees to negotiate, set up, monitor, promote and manage such Mutual Credit Arrangements.

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« Reply #247 on: December 03, 2015, 11:31:56 AM »
More on Mutual Credits.

The experience from Hong Kong, Singapore, Shenzhen and other cities is that the value of Real Estate can increase many times as the City is developed.  Citizens become wealthier. This is generally true when Land is limited.  With Special Economic Zones (SEZs), the Land available for development is artificially restricted.

Assume a Rich Country A has a Mutual Credit arrangement with a Developing Country B.  Country B can buy needed goods and services from Country A and speed up its development.  Country A can use the Country B Currency from the arrangement to invest in Real Estate Development in the SEZs of Country B.  The Hotels, Office Buildings, Shopping Centers, Residential Apartments, Sports facilities will appreciate in value rapidly.  Country A will not feel that it is holding worthless currency.  It is a win-win.

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« Reply #248 on: December 03, 2015, 05:57:07 PM »
What is Super Democracy?  Why is it better than Democracy?

The important thing for any Nation is to get competent people to run the Nation.  What counts is the result. 

The Third Class Democracy is following blindly one-person-one-vote.  When a Nation is not prepared such as the candidates are not qualified or trained (in the collapse of USSR), free elections do not get the competent people to run the Nation.

In Super Democracy, the candidates are well trained and prepared.  Part of the training will come from posting and discussions in Forums.  Voters will see the capabilities of the Candidates or the Parties for months or years via the Forums before the election.  Candidates or Parties can be prepared in Special Economic Zones (SECs).  SECs may have different Rules or Special Laws from the rest of the Country.  Minority parties with a specified minimum number of supporters will be given a chance to govern in one or more SEZs.

With the Internet, all Citizens can express their opinions and vote directly on specially important issues.  In Third Class Democracy, all decisions are left in the hands of elected Officials.  In Super Democracy, there will be managed Forums to discuss almost all issues.  The specially important ones will be determined by all voters via the Internet.  The 5 year plans of the different Political Parties can be compared.  The good points can be merged.

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« Reply #249 on: December 03, 2015, 06:15:38 PM »
Preliminary Results from the two electromagnet repulsion experiment with diagrams in reply 256.

1.  Electromagnet B can be placed on top of electromagnet A with no attraction when there is no current.

2.  When DC current is passed to repel the electromagnets, Electromagnet B jumped up but the height was only about 1 cm.

3.  This result is worse than the first attempt with a permanent magnet repelled by an electromagnet.

4.  The probable explanation is that to impart energy to Electromagnet B, we need to have Force x Displacement. The Repulsion Force is strong but the displacement or the time such force acts is small.  In the air core electromagnet case, the Repulsion Force was allowed to act much longer inside the solenoid.

5.  More thought and work need to be done.  One direction is more turns in the air solenoid.  Another direction is put feerite rods around the plastic tube before winding to produce a "ferromagnetic solenoid".

UFOs are already flying.  Our task here is to do proof-of-concept experiments.  We do not expect the task to be easy and finished in one attempt.  With the Super Silicon Valley Mentality, we show our failures for all to learn.

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« Reply #250 on: December 03, 2015, 11:51:25 PM »
How to promote Super Silicon Valley Mentality in Hong Kong?

Treat everything as third class.  Turn them into second or first class.

For example, my fishing technique can catch fish.  For relaxation and enjoyment purposes, that is sufficient.  If I use the Super Silicon Valley Mentality, I would question the equipment - the rod, the reel, the line, the hooks, the baits etc.  It would just be like playing tennis.  Do not just use any racket at any tension. Seek out the best that is suitable for your game.

My posts here are third class.  Turn them into second or first class...

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« Reply #251 on: December 04, 2015, 07:14:55 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00H1yDzt83s

The above video discussed the reason why the US Navy fired a Trident Missile over a populated area for all to witness.  The key message was to warn the enemies (China and Russia) that USA was willing to drop nuclear weapons on civilian populations.

I interpreted it somewhat differently.  The video showed characteristics of an UFO.  USA was telling the World that it also had the UFO technology.  USA knew that China had the UFO technology - the Late Mr. Lee Cheung Kin and myself explained in 2006 at Tsinghua University in the presence of the US team.  That team got funding from Jupiter Funds of Hong Kong and produced the 225 HP Pulse Motor.

It is quite likely that Russia and China got together and discussed such UFO technology.  China does not possess enough nuclear warheads to threaten USA but Russia does.  If China and Russia work together and develop the UFO technology to deliver warheads, the World Power Game will change.

This UFO style Missile launch has a side consequence.  It confirms that UFO can be man-made.  A hidden side is the lead-out energy. USA strategists probably calculated that the overunity devices could no longer be suppressed.  Over 60 QMOGENs have been cited on the Internet.  The UFO design on reply 1 of this thread have been read by thousands.  It is only a third class design.  But the top guns of many Nations will turn it to second or first class.

USA essentially showed that it could and had applied the UFO technology to its weapons. 

My gut feel is that China and Russia will show that they also have such technology.  The best way is to show the civilian applications.  They may even encourage Hong Kong (and this thread) to announce and demonstrate the technology first. Military Confrontation is avoided.  The Race for the Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer technology is ON.  The New  paradigm is coming.

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« Reply #252 on: December 05, 2015, 12:15:57 AM »
How to promote Super Silicon Valley Mentality in Hong Kong?

Treat everything as third class.  Turn them into second or first class.

For example, my fishing technique can catch fish.  For relaxation and enjoyment purposes, that is sufficient.  If I use the Super Silicon Valley Mentality, I would question the equipment - the rod, the reel, the line, the hooks, the baits etc.  It would just be like playing tennis.  Do not just use any racket at any tension. Seek out the best that is suitable for your game.

My posts here are third class.  Turn them into second or first class...

Some questioned the Mentality of "either the problem cracks or we crack".  My working on Lead-out Energy is an example.  Some may say that I have cracked.  Only a lunatic would post so much on nonsense. 

I do not think that I have cracked.  So what happened to the problem of Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer?  Are UFOs flying?  Is the UFO like Missile fired by US Navy on Nov 7, 2015 man-made?

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« Reply #253 on: December 05, 2015, 12:52:14 AM »
Have some elites in China developed the Super Silicon Valley Mentality?

There is no question that when they buy anything from the West, the first task is take it apart and reverse engineer.  This is to be expected and Counties like South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore etc. all used this strategy successfully.  Everything is third class - including ideas.  Improve them to second or first class.

The Chinese Student studying aboard are already famous for their dedication.  They work on problems rather than giving up.  The Tiger Mom type training helped.  Either the problem cracks or we crack.  China has cracked the most difficult problem - develop the economy at the fastest pace in human history.  Can China solve the problems of pollution, ghost cities, UFO technology?

Do some elites have the God like Mentality?  Many looked to the West as the Teacher before 2008.  The attitude afterwards is that the rules and teachings by the Teachers are not perfect.  China has to think outside the box.  When approaching an African Nation, the motto is win-win.  I am a God.  You are a God,  We do not need to abide by the Rules of the West.

Does China show its failures for the World to learn?  Allowing the reporters to write stories of corruption, visit ghost cities are good examples.  There will be more failures in the lead-out energy flying saucer Race.  There will be failed experiments.  There will be unsafe products.  There will be UFO crashes.  There will be blowing up of home generators and appliances.  Will China show such failures for the World to learn?

Will China use the Internet to learn.  That is a given.

I discussed the Super Silicon Valley Mentality with the first group of Chinese Computer Engineers to USA in 1980.  The fact that they have improved the third class idea to second or first class is evident...

Some of the elites are amongst the Policy Makers.  They have the self-confidence and mentality to tackling and solving any problem.  The chance of China collapsing like USSR (believing the third class democracy and capitalism would cure the economic problems) is remote.
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« Reply #254 on: December 05, 2015, 09:49:52 AM »
Possible PowerPoint PDF file for an Interview next week.

The Updated presentation after the Hong Kong University Experiment on two electromagnet repulsion.  The result was not as good as the permanent magnet and air core case.