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Pirate88179

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #180 on: November 14, 2015, 05:42:11 AM »
Once again, Lawrence shows his ignorance of many things.  A few posts back, he accused the United States of starting wars to take over territory and steal the resources of other nations.

Well, I challenge him to name one time...just one, that the the US invaded another country and stole all of their resources and took their territory.  We have fought many wars but, did we claim Japan?  Germany? France? Denmark? Poland? as our territory?  No, we did not.  We just saved the world.

Iraq was said to be a war for oil.  Did we take the oil?  No, we did not.

I just wish Larry would learn some basic physics and, US history before he posts such nonsense.  He has been doing this for years and, even when corrected by facts, continues to do so.

He still thinks that a pendulum produces O.U.  Come on...really Larry?  He also thinks his Joule Thief circuits produce O.U. and has claimed as much.

There are other topics on here where he posted that pumping water up to a 4 story building produced O.U.  Of course, like all of the other topics, he was proven wrong by folks that know better.

Now he claims we in the US  have flying saucers that are kept secret from the rest of the world.  Larry, we don't need them, we have F-16's and F-35's, and F-14's, and F-104's.  We also have the Saturn 5 technology.  Those really work.  Flying saucers do not.

One more thing Larry, from a physics standpoint, IF we indeed have "aliens" visiting earth...even though it has been proven that the distances would be impossible to have overcome,....the question you should ask yourself is not "where are they from?"  It should be..."When are they from?"  they could be from 100,000 years in the future.  Not 250,000 light years away.

I still like you Lawrence even though we disagree on many things.


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #181 on: November 14, 2015, 08:20:09 AM »
Earth to Vulcan in 30 minutes - a possible solution?

this little snippet that was found jammed in the office shredder by an employee of a commercial office cleaning company working at area 51 building 19 some time later after 5pm:
   
Well, I believe it has been stated that Vulcan is about 16 light-years away from Earth, so even if they were going at Warp 9 the entire time (which seems improbable, given what we've been told about travelling at warp speed), it still should've taken them at least three days to get there.

I guess we just have to conclude that in this timeline, Starfleet found a way to make Transwarp drive viable by the mid-23rd century (or something like that).

the shredder ate the rest of the top secret document, though we were able to piece together another damaged inter office memo:

I've often wondered about the proximity of different Federation and non-Federation planets. I get the idea that Klingons, Romulans, Vulcans, and humans are all pretty close together, but no one official has ever made a map, so it's impossible to be sure. One aspect of this question that fascinates me is the three-dimensional nature of everyone's location with respect to everyone else. One way the show made something seem far away was to situate events in the gamma quadrant or the delta quadrant, but there are places in the alpha quadrant that are immensely distant as well. I suspect that much of the alpha quadrant remains a mystery. Since star density and radiation increases as you approach the galactic center, the probability of life going inwards decreases. Indeed, most life must be concentrated in worlds whose stars have circular orbits around the galactic center and are in the outer fringe of the galaxy.


30 minutes to get there, it might take a while, if it is possible to be patient for 235 years until the mid 23rd century.




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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #182 on: November 14, 2015, 08:40:22 AM »
Earth to Vulcan in 30 minutes - a possible solution?

this little snippet that was found jammed in the office shredder by an employee of a commercial office cleaning company working at area 51 building 19 some time later after 5pm:
   
Well, I believe it has been stated that Vulcan is about 16 light-years away from Earth, so even if they were going at Warp 9 the entire time (which seems improbable, given what we've been told about travelling at warp speed), it still should've taken them at least three days to get there.

I guess we just have to conclude that in this timeline, Starfleet found a way to make Transwarp drive viable by the mid-23rd century (or something like that).

the shredder ate the rest of the top secret document, though we were able to piece together another damaged inter office memo:

I've often wondered about the proximity of different Federation and non-Federation planets. I get the idea that Klingons, Romulans, Vulcans, and humans are all pretty close together, but no one official has ever made a map, so it's impossible to be sure. One aspect of this question that fascinates me is the three-dimensional nature of everyone's location with respect to everyone else. One way the show made something seem far away was to situate events in the gamma quadrant or the delta quadrant, but there are places in the alpha quadrant that are immensely distant as well. I suspect that much of the alpha quadrant remains a mystery. Since star density and radiation increases as you approach the galactic center, the probability of life going inwards decreases. Indeed, most life must be concentrated in worlds whose stars have circular orbits around the galactic center and are in the outer fringe of the galaxy.


30 minutes to get there, it might take a while, if it is possible to be patient for 235 years until the mid 23rd century.

One thing that always fascinated me was....you are traveling in deep space...right?  Suddenly, you meet a Klingon Bird Of Prey ship head on.  Both your ship, and theirs, is facing right side up.  Right side up in relation to what?  How is it these ships are both oriented the same way when they meet?

I was always confused by this.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #183 on: November 14, 2015, 10:41:53 AM »
One thing that always fascinated me was....you are traveling in deep space...right?  Suddenly, you meet a Klingon Bird Of Prey ship head on.  Both your ship, and theirs, is facing right side up.  Right side up in relation to what?  How is it these ships are both oriented the same way when they meet?

I was always confused by this.

Bill

haha ya that is a good point.
a compass wouldn't be as useful.
they would have to somehow know spacial x y and also z axis planes for orientation along with using the constellations as a reference to which way is actually up, if there is supposed to be an upward position in space.
dammit jim, bill, i'm a doctor, not a scientist!

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #184 on: November 14, 2015, 12:52:25 PM »
Once again, Lawrence shows his ignorance of many things.  A few posts back, he accused the United States of starting wars to take over territory and steal the resources of other nations.



I hate history lessons.  But I thought there were Red Indians before someone took over their territory and stole their resources.  I still remembered that when I went to attend high school in England, their history books never mentioned opium.  The history teacher told us that England was a noble Nation and would never sell opium.  It was communist propaganda...


I took part in the rallies against the Vietnam War in the 1970's?  Was that my imagination?  Was USA so noble that the war was communist propaganda?


Do some Westerners talk about absolute military superiority so that no Nations dare a repeat of history? 


My personal conviction is that modern wealth is the quality and quantity of meaningful economic activities.  My house in Acton, Mass was developed from an apple farm.  The area was 40,000 sq. feet.  The house itself was over 3,000 square foot.  But its value is less than the 800 square foot condo I live in Hong Kong.


I do not think the Chinese people will ever dream of destroying their hard earn prosperity in risking any War.  If they want to be more prosperous, they can just do more 5 year plans and increase the quality and quantity of Meaningful Economic Activities.


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #185 on: November 14, 2015, 06:34:09 PM »
In Physics, at the speed of light, strange things are predicted.


http://www.physicsoftheuniverse.com/topics_relativity_special.html


1.  The mass becomes infinite.
2.  The Energy Required is infinite.
3.  Time slows (dilates).  A person never gets old.
4.  Length contracts to zero.


The conclusion from textbooks is that travelling at the speed of light is impossible.  There is no point in thinking or speculating about it.


But if there were indeed a process that we do not understand today that allowed travelling at the speed of light, there will be no need to worry about space and time.  Many scientists did not accept Special Relativity until they saw the Atomic Bomb.  They had to accept E = M * C * C.  When space and time are no longer absolute, covering distances of light years at the speed of light takes NO time.


Could there be a process that we do not understand today?

Scientists did not understand the behavior of UFOs but now it is clear that such behavior can be produced via varying circular motion...  A true scientist will not claim that he already knows everything.
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #186 on: November 14, 2015, 11:43:16 PM »

Now he claims we in the US  have flying saucers that are kept secret from the rest of the world.  Larry, we don't need them, we have F-16's and F-35's, and F-14's, and F-104's.  We also have the Saturn 5 technology.  Those really work.  Flying saucers do not.



The UFOs are seen flying with quick turns, hovering, disappearing into space etc.  If they were developed into weapons, they would wipe out all  F-16's and F-35's, and F-14's, and F-104's.
That is why they are kept as top secret in USA and China.

We all know that we can use or lead-out gravitational energy one time.  But to lead-out continuously, we need some "naturally repeatable motion".  Pendulum oscillation is one example.  Unbalanced wheel rotation is another.  The Pulsing DC current electromagnet is another "natural" repeatable process. 

Leading-out energy one time is easy and well understood.  Leading-out energy continuously has been demonstrated by the QMOGENs, Tsinghua Energy Multiplier, 225 HP Pulse Motor, William Skinner device etc.  USA and Chinese Governments just kept such as top secrets.  Wang Shen He was made a millionaire to keep his mouth shut. 

The person who gave the medicine to cure my stroke said: "Do your research and publish it.  If it does not work, who cares?  Are you afraid of ridicule?  You effectively came back from the dead.  If it works, the World will benefit."

I do not really care how Pirate88179 or others think in this forum.  I know how the professors think at Tsinghua University.  They listened to the late Mr. Lee Cheung Kin and myself on the lead-out energy theory and said that they understood the workings of the Tsinghua Energy Multiplier.  That was a working OU device.  It was top secret but now...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #187 on: November 15, 2015, 12:54:07 AM »

I hate history lessons.  But I thought there were Red Indians before someone took over their territory and stole their resources.  I still remembered that when I went to attend high school in England, their history books never mentioned opium.  The history teacher told us that England was a noble Nation and would never sell opium.  It was communist propaganda...


I took part in the rallies against the Vietnam War in the 1970's?  Was that my imagination?  Was USA so noble that the war was communist propaganda?


Do some Westerners talk about absolute military superiority so that no Nations dare a repeat of history? 


My personal conviction is that modern wealth is the quality and quantity of meaningful economic activities.  My house in Acton, Mass was developed from an apple farm.  The area was 40,000 sq. feet.  The house itself was over 3,000 square foot.  But its value is less than the 800 square foot condo I live in Hong Kong.


I do not think the Chinese people will ever dream of destroying their hard earn prosperity in risking any War.  If they want to be more prosperous, they can just do more 5 year plans and increase the quality and quantity of Meaningful Economic Activities.

Well, it is obvious that you hate history because you sure have not studied it at all.  Your post reveals this.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #188 on: November 15, 2015, 05:35:09 AM »
Well, it is obvious that you hate history because you sure have not studied it at all.  Your post reveals this.

Bill


History depends on who wrote it.  The white man's point of view would be different from that of the Red Indians.  When Hong Kong was still under British Rule, the textbooks described one view.  The Chinese version showed another.  We were subjected to both.  It was confusing to the youngsters.


You obviously only studied the White Man's version...

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« Reply #189 on: November 15, 2015, 10:43:18 PM »
http://www.shareyouressays.com/110908/10-steps-the-central-government-must-take-to-improve-agriculture-in-india


The state and central governments of our country should take necessary steps to improve agriculture in India. It is essential to increase the production of food grains and other cash crops. To achieve this aim, a programme was devised through the Five Year Plans.
It included the following:

i. To develop various means of irrigation, so that more land could be brought under agriculture.

ii. To increase the availability of chemical fertilisers at subsidised rates, either through production or through imports.

iii. To develop and produce new hybrid varieties of seeds, which will help in increasing the yield of various crops.

iv. The government would fix a minimum purchase price for various crops every year.

v. To provide adequate and timely loans to farmers, on easy terms, to buy farm machinery and other agricultural items.

vi. To help protect standing crops from pests, diseases and natural hazards, such as floods, droughts and cyclones.

vii. To educate and help farmers through specially developed programmes on radio and television.

viii. To set up demonstration farms, so that the farmers can learn and adopt new, suitable and latest farming techniques.

ix. The government should provide adequate diesel, electricity and water at highly subsidised rates.

x. Encourage the farmers to adopt mixed farming and work in cottage industries in their free time.

This has resulted in increasing the agricultural production in many parts of India. A new package of agricultural practices was introduced in 1967. This package in India is known as the Green Revolution. It was initially introduced to the Indian scientists by Dr Norman Earnest Borlaug in 1963. The yield of dwarf and semi-dwarf varieties of wheat was about four times the yield from local varieties.

*** With lead-out energy flying saucer technology, what is likely to happen?  Should Governments step in to help?  Should there be 5 year plans?

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« Reply #190 on: November 16, 2015, 03:31:32 AM »

History depends on who wrote it.  The white man's point of view would be different from that of the Red Indians.  When Hong Kong was still under British Rule, the textbooks described one view.  The Chinese version showed another.  We were subjected to both.  It was confusing to the youngsters.


You obviously only studied the White Man's version...

Once again Lawrence, you are wrong.  I suppose you must be getting used to it.  There is no "White man's history."  This is the history of what happened before...period.  The red man, as you called them, stole the land from the folks that lived here prior to them.  They captured them and made them slaves.  So, how far back do we need to go?  Because, before that, they took the land from the others living here...and so on.

China is only surviving because they are adopting capitalistic ways.  They realized that their socialism was not working and never would.

I have no idea why you rail against the US Lawrence.  Sure, we are not perfect, no country is.  But name me one other country that has bailed out, or saved as many countries as we have.  You can't?

Figures.


Go back to making up false physics claims.

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« Reply #191 on: November 16, 2015, 01:33:54 PM »
Once again Lawrence, you are wrong.  I suppose you must be getting used to it.  There is no "White man's history."  This is the history of what happened before...period.  The red man, as you called them, stole the land from the folks that lived here prior to them.  They captured them and made them slaves.  So, how far back do we need to go?  Because, before that, they took the land from the others living here...and so on.

China is only surviving because they are adopting capitalistic ways.  They realized that their socialism was not working and never would.

I have no idea why you rail against the US Lawrence.  Sure, we are not perfect, no country is.  But name me one other country that has bailed out, or saved as many countries as we have.  You can't?

Figures.


Go back to making up false physics claims.

Bill


That is why I hate history.  It brings back too many sad memories.  You have not been kicked out from a park with the sign "Dogs and Chinese not allowed."

Focusing back on Meaningful Economic Activities is more pleasant...


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« Reply #192 on: November 16, 2015, 05:57:14 PM »
Love thy enemy as a Meaningful Economic Activity

In the Modern World, the weapons are becoming more and more destructive.  They are bombs that destroy planes and ordinary citizens.  Unfortunately, the statements from Politicians are full of hate and revenge. 

Should we be thinking about - love thy enemy?

Germany and Japan did not become the enemy after the Second World War.  USA helped them to rebuild.  Was that an act of Love Thy Enemy? 


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« Reply #193 on: November 17, 2015, 09:50:23 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHjubg7zTfU

The new generation will have their own values.  They must find their own Meaningful Economic Activities.

The one child policy has led to many more men than women.  Many man (many millions) will not be able to find a wife if China insists on one-man-one-woman. 

Many rules and customs are affected by Outside Culture.  But some are forced upon by Internal Necessity.

Fortunately, with the Internet, many intelligent Chinese can raise and discuss the issues.

The China-made UFOs will change many rules and preceptions...

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« Reply #194 on: November 18, 2015, 12:18:24 AM »
In the Modern World, does a rising Nation need to have a military conflict with the existing power?

I think this is the most important question to answer.  This will determine whether China will roll out the lead-out energy flying saucer.

My answer is that Modern Wealth can be increased by increasing the quality and quantity of Meaningful Economic Activities.  There is no need to take over the land or resources of other Nations.  If the rising nation controls its population, there is no excuse (as in the past) to conquer and colonialize.

Japan is showing the World the example of a sinking population.  The former one child policy of China slowed the population growth.  Now the policy is two children.  In the long run, that will allow a slow "replacement growth".  There is no need to take over the land of others.

If USA policy makers accept this view, they can sit back and watch the coming 5 years plans of China.  They already know that some planning is necessary for any Nation (developed or developing) to increase its Meaningful Economic Activities...

With the lead-out energy flying saucer technology, any Nation, including USA, can achieve a double digit growth in the foreseeable future.