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ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #75 on: August 15, 2015, 01:11:12 PM »
The next monthly meeting will be on Aug 17 (Monday).  The Agenda is as follows:

1. Review of Lead-out Energy history as a result of the death of Mr. Lee Cheung Kin.
2. Demonstration of the magnetic repulsion experiment.  The demonstration will include air-core, iron-core, DSO analysis etc.
3. The resonance pump by Peter Chan
4. Review of UFOs and QMOGENs
5. The latest Bedini Motor
6. The Student project
7. Any other business.

Lawrence
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ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #76 on: August 15, 2015, 08:53:06 PM »
To be realistic, the technical thinking work on the lead-out energy flying saucer has been done.  The first breakthrough was by the late Mr. Lee Cheung Kin when he proposed that the pulsed pendulum could lead-out gravitational energy.  The second breakthrough was by Lawrence Tseung when he proposed varying the angular velocity of an unbalanced wheel.

The Lee-Tseung contribution to science can be summed up in the above statements.

All other work were refinements and sometimes resulted in errors and distractions.  USA and Chinese Military Establishments already built such flying saucers.  Since they kept this technology as top secret, it opens the door for other scientists to claim the credit and rediscover the technology to benefit the World.

Lawrence Tseung should just let others catch the Big Fish and shine.  The simple Atten DSO experiments showed that measurement of Input Electrical Energy is possible.  Much more work is required to produce proper scientific results.  He must not commit the same mistake of using his limited resources to do the impossible.  Pass the responsibility to others more capable...

*** In the diagram, Hong Kong Innovation dominated.  The 225 HP Pulse Motor was funded by Hong Kong.  Can Hong Kong become the Innovation Center of the World?  Will Hong Kong University Students catch the Big Fish?  Will Hong Kong Government and Politicians provide the necessary support?  Will the Hong Kong News Media write up the stories?  Will the Hong Kong Business elite manufacture the Lead-out Energy Flying Saucers?

Lawrence
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ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #77 on: August 17, 2015, 01:08:43 AM »
Sow seeds.  Some may fall on fertile soil.

China is catching up because the whole Nation is willing to take risks.  The late Lee Cheung Kin, Wang Shen He and I were invited to Tsinghua University in early 2006 on a one page description of the lead-out energy theory... 

The lead-out energy flying saucer was mentioned and the Nanjing UFO was on youtube in Oct, 2006. (It took me nine years to go from version 1 to version 9 in the design.  It probably took less than 9 weeks for China to get a working prototype flying.  It might not be perfect as it accidentally flew over Nanjing.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-_OH6nu7V8

Hong Kong is a leading city of China.  It will be a fertile ground for lead-out energy flying saucers.

Hong Kong was the place where the 225 HP Pulse Motor got its investment.  Hong Kong is likely to become the Mecca of Innovation.  I have spent time both in Hong Kong and California.  The time in Hong Kong is more productive, very much more.

China will become the number one Nation within ten years - not only in manufacturing, finance, sports but also in innovation.  I am sure that the late Lee Cheung Kin was correct - China has already developed flying saucers.  I just graduated from kindergarten.   Chinese and USA Military Researchers are already at post-graduate level.

My efforts will help to get either USA or China to disclose the top secret to benefit the World.  There is always the possibility of a third Nation...

Divine Wine flows.

Lawrence
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Let us analyze the Nanjing UFO video. 

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1.2   The Centrifugal Force Formula
The Centrifugal Force is equal to:
CF = m*v*v*/R   where m = mass, v – velocity and R = radius
The same formula can also be written as:
CF = m*w*w*R  where w = angular velocity (should use omega),  v=w*R
For this discussion, the second form of the formula is used.
When an object of mass m moves in a circular path as in the ninth design of the Flying Saucer, it is subjected to a Centrifugal Force away from the center – the Centrifugal Force.  The faster the angular velocity, the stronger will be this CF force. 
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The angular velocity can be increased every time the magnet passes through the drive coil if the collector coils are disabled. 

The technique is to disable the collector coils until the angular velocity is very high, then enable the collector coils again.

There were a few pairs of counter rotating "engines".

All the technology is within the capability of the USA or Chinese Military.

Mystery of the Nanjing UFO solved???

The top secret can now be rediscovered by many other Nations to benefit the World...

Lawrence
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« Last Edit: August 17, 2015, 04:52:32 AM by ltseung888 »

ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #78 on: August 17, 2015, 10:44:26 AM »
https://youtu.be/Gy6SN643WMQ

Mr. Bill Fund did the vertical tube magnet-coil repulsion experiment.  He is now in a position to re-do and improve the experiment.  He can testify that the ferrite-core can produce much stronger magnetic field than air-core.


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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #79 on: August 17, 2015, 07:09:45 PM »
Thoughts on the Student Project

1. The stated goal is to compare the Input Electrical Energy with the Output Potential Energy.  Coefficient of Performance COP is defined as Output Energy/Input Energy.

2. All indications so far pointed to COP can be greater than 1.

3. Even if COP is not greater than 1, there is still much for the Students to explore and learn.  These include use of Oscilloscopes, proper selection of magnets or coils, proper winding of coils, choice of DC Power Supply, positioning of the magnets or coils, etc.  There will still be differences in COP and winners based on COP is still possible.

4. If COP can indeed be greater than 1, a great scientific paper can be written.  The indication at present is that the power supplied to the air-core can be approximately the same as supplied to the iron-core solenoid.  The resulting magnetic field of the iron-core solenoid can be hundreds or thousands times that of air-core.  This is in line with existing knowledge.  It is very likely that this observed effect can be turned to increasing COP to beyond 1.

5. If COP can be greater than 1, the Students will compete to get the highest COP.  There may be a limit such as the amount of budget that can be spent.  (If the COP increases with the number of turns of wire or current, some students may go for many thousands of turns or thousands of DC watts.)  Setting the limit and defining the rules will be the responsibility of the professors.

6. Once such competition rules are set and refined, the competition may spread beyond Hong Kong University.  Worldwide competition may happen.  The World will learn together.

China and USA may disclose their top secrets.  Another Nation or hundreds of academic institutions are in a position to develop the lead-out energy flying saucer to benefit the World...

Hong Kong University may be the judge.  Hong Kong Government may fund the competition.  Hong Kong media may promote the event.  The winning entries may become tourist attractions in the Hong Kong Science Museum.  Hong Kong may become the Mecca of Innovation.  Hong Kong Venture Fund managers will have clients queue up at their doors.  Hong Kong Business Organizations may produce the first commercial lead-out energy generators or flying saucers...

Mr. Lee Cheung Kin will smile in his grave...

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #80 on: August 19, 2015, 01:19:39 PM »
One full set of experimental equipment is now at Hong Kong University.  Prof. Leung will put the experiment on firm scientific footing.  That includes:

1. Better Oscilloscopes
2. Better machine winding and thicker wires
3. Electronic control rather than hand pushing
4. Much more data
5. The COP > 1 cases will be proven beyond any shadow of doubt.
6. Eliminate as much as possible all known sources of error.

Let the Students catch the Big Fish.  Let them shine...

At least one academic institution is taking action.  Will USA or Chinese Government disclose the top secret?

*** The material cost including the DC Power Supply and the Atten DSO was less than HK$5,000.  Many academic institutions already have DC Power Supplies and better DSOs.  The additional material cost of tubes, magnets, coils, resistors etc. to do the experiment would be less than HK$500.  This experiment can verify or confirm COP greater than 1.  It can be a very motivating experiment for the Students.  It may solve the energy and transportation problems of the World...

Should a scientific institution sit and wait for HKU to publish the results?  Or should it do the experiment itself now?

Is it possible for USA or Chinese Governments to suppress such scientific research? 
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Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #81 on: August 19, 2015, 02:00:18 PM »
Sophisticated equipment used improperly yields bogus results.  It's pretty simple:  Fixture carefully and properly, or you might as well not bother to take measurements.  Things like clip leads strewn all around and cement wirewound resistors for current sense easily get fouled by switching edges.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #82 on: August 19, 2015, 11:37:39 PM »
Will repulsion of two iron-core coils be the best configuration to detect overunity?

One magnet and one iron-core coil will experience magnetic attraction even with no Current.

Two iron-core coils will have no magnetic attraction with no Current.

May use same circuit to pass same current through both coils...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #83 on: August 19, 2015, 11:53:36 PM »
Will repulsion of two iron-core coils be the best configuration to detect overunity?

One magnet and one iron-core coil will experience magnetic attraction even with no Current.

Two iron-core coils will have no magnetic attraction with no Current.

May use same circuit to pass same current through both coils...

wondering something,

could a spring or springs made with peizo sensors help reduce the amount of energy needed to create lift inside the chamber?

would the spring placed above make the moving object lift easier while holding back the tension of gravity?

the lower spring helping by using the objects weight to help lift itself during the cycle.

the peizo sensors are just to help feed some of the power back into storage.

ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #84 on: August 20, 2015, 08:30:17 PM »
Will repulsion of two iron-core coils be the best configuration to detect overunity?

One magnet and one iron-core coil will experience magnetic attraction even with no Current.

Two iron-core coils will have no magnetic attraction with no Current.

May use same circuit to pass same current through both coils...

The magnetic strength of the solenoid is dependent on the Current and the number of Turns.  These two parameters can be increased so that the magnetic repulsion will generate high Output Potential Energy mgh.   The Input Electrical Energy does not need to increase very much.  This means the hunt for overunity should focus on thick wire and large number of turns.

I am sure that the Hong Kong University Students will catch the Big Fish - using thick wire, low resistance, high current and huge number of turns...  COP > 1 is achievable.  I look forward to the results.  Some of the Input Electrical Energy is used to align the "tiny magnets" of the iron-core to produce a large magnet.  This is a clear case of leading-out magnetic energy...

The Fish can be so Big (COP so high) that the experimental inaccuracies are not a concern...  Who are the names that shine?  Will other academic institutions wait and watch HKU or will some charge ahead and catch the Big Fish first?

Will China or USA Government disclose the top secret?  Their UFOs are flying...

Lawrence
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ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #85 on: August 21, 2015, 11:28:47 AM »
Catch the Big Fish?

It is a matter of patience now...

Some Hong Kong University Students will demonstrate COP > 1 ...   

The Input Electrical Energy will lead-out the magnetic energy of the iron-core.  The resultant energy will be higher Output potential energy.  COP > 1 is a certainty.

Who will produce the proper scientific evidence?

Will China or USA disclose the top secret?

Lawrence
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #86 on: August 22, 2015, 04:02:30 AM »
I ask for help in
http://overunity.com/5929/winding-a-strong-electromagnet/msg459604/#msg459604

There should be good comments on configuring two iron-core electromagnets for repulsion.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #87 on: August 24, 2015, 10:54:00 AM »
http://overunity.com/9316/ufo-propulsion-theory/msg459705/#msg459705

Another thread talking about ufo propulsion theory...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #88 on: August 25, 2015, 08:05:10 AM »
Divine Revelation?

Solved the problem of accurate pulsing in the case of circular motion.

I was listening to hymns to relax and get inspiration.

It came.

I shall pause and let others propose solutions and shine.

Hong Kong University is now in a position to prove overunity and to demonstrate the flying saucer.  Mr. Peter Chan may do the demonstration...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #89 on: September 03, 2015, 07:26:12 AM »
Research Assistant, Holly, and Mr. Lau at Hong Kong University.  Now the experiment has a home.  The use of one magnet and one coil was not useful as the magnet got attracted to the iron core when there was no current.

Planned to use two iron-core coils.  More research needed...