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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #330 on: January 14, 2016, 01:49:02 AM »
Can Hong Kong or any other Nation develop the flying saucer based on the design of reply 1 of this thread?

King David killed Goliath with the sling...

Is the physics of faster the angular velocity, higher will be the centrifugal force correct?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #331 on: January 14, 2016, 06:27:17 PM »
Intellectually, is super democracy better? 

Can the Internet help in the process?

Can Hong Kong lead the discussion?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #332 on: January 14, 2016, 06:30:12 PM »
Intellectually, is Super Silicon Valley Mentally better in fostering innovation?

Should we think outside the box?

Should we treat ourselves as Gods.  Examine and make New Rules?

Can Hong Kong lead the discussion?

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« Reply #332 on: January 14, 2016, 06:30:12 PM »
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #333 on: January 14, 2016, 06:33:52 PM »
Intellectually, is striving to become the Lowest Cost Producer in all areas good for the World?

Can we introduce Mutual Credits, Meaningful Economic Activities and Modern Wealth to set a new order?

Can Hong Kong lead the discussion?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #334 on: January 14, 2016, 06:39:23 PM »
Intellectually, is Love Thy Enemies better than killing or suppressing them?

Knowledge and technical capability will keep going up.  All will learn and produce the lead-out flying saucers sooner or later. 

Can Hong Kong lead the World in such discussions?

Can Hong Kong become the Innovation Center of the World?

What will be the reactions from USA and China???

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« Reply #334 on: January 14, 2016, 06:39:23 PM »
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #335 on: January 15, 2016, 07:54:03 AM »
Will the new Innovation and Technology bureau embrace lead-out energy flying saucer?


What steps will the Chinese Government take?


Will the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier or the 225 HP PUlse Motor see day light?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #336 on: January 16, 2016, 01:44:58 AM »
Will the new Innovation and Technology bureau embrace lead-out energy flying saucer?


What steps will the Chinese Government take?


Will the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier or the 225 HP PUlse Motor see day light?

My guess is that the Hong Kong Innovation and Technology Bureau in Hong Kong will consult the Chinese Government.  It will rightly speculate that the technology may be top military secret. 

The Chinese Government is likely to remain silent until a third Nation announces and demonstrates the technology.

Who will be this Third Nation?

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #337 on: January 26, 2016, 12:01:55 AM »
Meeting Summary at a non-profit organization

1.   If Man-made UFOs are flying, there is no time pressure to do proof-of concept experiments.  Involve many other non-profit minded individuals and organizations to benefit humanity.
2.   Perfect the technique of winding thousand turn solenoids.  The circular unbalanced wheel (variation of the 225 HP Pulse Motor) is likely to need many solenoids.
3.   Space and basic equipment are available.  Some advanced equipment such as 3D Printing are also available.  Develop the best techniques and practices.  Funding is available when there are good demonstrations.
4.   The Military aspects of the Flying Saucer is obvious even to the layman.  There is no need to emphasize them.
5.   Talk about the joy of flying in a family flying saucer.  Compare it to the horse,  the bicycle and the motor car.
6.   The concept of leading-out or bringing-in energy from the environment is easy to grasp with slide 5 of the PDF file in reply 323.  Try to develop the cases one at a time.  Show clearly how and how much energy is brought-in.

The new paradigm of lead-out energy flying saucer is coming.  Love Thy Enemies.  Turn them into brothers and sisters.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #338 on: January 26, 2016, 03:11:46 AM »
Leading-out gravitational energy
Reference: Rhead100 video 6.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8

1.   At 2:07 time, the 46 pound pendulum was at its maximum height position.  A small push with the fingers lifted the 74 pound weight twice.
2.   Between 2:07 and 3:30, note that the weight was lifted twice with each push from the fingers.
3.   The weight was lifted when the pendulum was at the lowest height position.
4.   That position was the highest velocity position.  The centrifugal force was highest.
5.   Notice that the maximum swing position was hardly changed.

Some possible deductions:
a.   The 74 pound weight was not lifted until the amplitude of the swing was high enough.
b.   The sum of the twice lifted height appeared to be more than the once movement of the fingers.
c.   The potential energy shown by the 74 pound weight was given by the formula mgh where m is mass of the 74 pound weight, g is the gravitational acceleration and h is the total height lifted.
d.   The supplied energy is the force of the push (f) times the finger movement (d) or fd.
e.   It appeared that output energy was more than supplied energy (mgh > fd) between 2:07 and 3:30.  Before 2:07, the supplied energy is used to increase the amplitude of the swing. 

Our explanation is that gravitational energy was lead-out or brought-in.  There is no violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy.  That video was an experimental confirmation.

It may be worthwhile to reproduce the Raymond Head setup so that the experiment can be repeated and improved.

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« Reply #338 on: January 26, 2016, 03:11:46 AM »
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #339 on: January 27, 2016, 06:59:09 AM »
Academic paper concluding that the output energy is greater than the supplied energy in the Milkovic 2SO.

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/G.R.Nikhade_R.U.Patil_S.P.Bansal_Two-stage_oscillator_mechanism_for_operating_a_reciprocating%20pump.pdf

CONCLUSION AND DISCUSSION 

Based on the results obtained after testing the model, it was quite obvious that the amount of energy to be given to the system is less than the amount of energy obtained from the system. Actually the system takes its energy from the nature i.e. gravity. So if, along with the input energy, the energy from the nature is also considered then the efficiency of the system would be less than 100 % and if only input energy is considered then its efficiency would be greater than 100 % for certain period of time.

*** There is no need for us to replicate the experiments again...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #340 on: January 27, 2016, 09:33:49 AM »
Academic paper concluding that the output energy is greater than the supplied energy in the Milkovic 2SO.

http://www.veljkomilkovic.com/Docs/G.R.Nikhade_R.U.Patil_S.P.Bansal_Two-stage_oscillator_mechanism_for_operating_a_reciprocating%20pump.pdf

CONCLUSION AND DISCUSSION 

Based on the results obtained after testing the model, it was quite obvious that the amount of energy to be given to the system is less than the amount of energy obtained from the system. Actually the system takes its energy from the nature i.e. gravity. So if, along with the input energy, the energy from the nature is also considered then the efficiency of the system would be less than 100 % and if only input energy is considered then its efficiency would be greater than 100 % for certain period of time.

*** There is no need for us to replicate the experiments again...

If gravitational energy can be brought-in by the mechanical two stage pendulum system, we shall be able to bring-in magnetic or electromagnetic energy.  All we need to do is to replace the pendulum with a magnet and set up appropriate magnetic or electromagnetic fields.

With electromagnetic fields, we have the advantage of varying the strength and direction of the field.  We can even turn on and off the field.

Apparently, this was already achieved in the 225 HP Pulse Motor and the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier and other Pulse Motors...

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« Reply #340 on: January 27, 2016, 09:33:49 AM »
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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #341 on: January 27, 2016, 09:40:26 AM »
If gravitational energy can be brought-in by the mechanical two stage pendulum system, we shall be able to bring-in magnetic or electromagnetic energy.  All we need to do is to replace the pendulum with a magnet and set up appropriate magnetic or electromagnetic fields.

With electromagnetic fields, we have the advantage of varying the strength and direction of the field.  We can even turn on and off the field.

Apparently, this was already achieved in the 225 HP Pulse Motor and the Tsinghua University Energy Multiplier and other Pulse Motors...

The lead-out energy flying saucer design in reply 1 of this thread should be easy to understand now.

China and USA already built UFOs.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #342 on: January 27, 2016, 09:50:29 AM »
Meeting Summary at a non-profit organization

1.   If Man-made UFOs are flying, there is no time pressure to do proof-of concept experiments.  Involve many other non-profit minded individuals and organizations to benefit humanity.
2.   Perfect the technique of winding thousand turn solenoids.  The circular unbalanced wheel (variation of the 225 HP Pulse Motor) is likely to need many solenoids.
3.   Space and basic equipment are available.  Some advanced equipment such as 3D Printing are also available.  Develop the best techniques and practices.  Funding is available when there are good demonstrations.
4.   The Military aspects of the Flying Saucer is obvious even to the layman.  There is no need to emphasize them.
5.   Talk about the joy of flying in a family flying saucer.  Compare it to the horse,  the bicycle and the motor car.
6.   The concept of leading-out or bringing-in energy from the environment is easy to grasp with slide 5 of the PDF file in reply 323.  Try to develop the cases one at a time.  Show clearly how and how much energy is brought-in.
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The new paradigm of lead-out energy flying saucer is coming.  Love Thy Enemies.  Turn them into brothers and sisters.

Many people have travelled on horse backs, rode on bicycles and drove cars.  I had the added pleasure of "flying as a learner pilot" on planes.

I can still remember the first time sensation of riding on and controlling such devices.  I am sure riding on the lead-out energy flying saucer will yield the same type of sensation...

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #343 on: January 27, 2016, 11:02:15 AM »
Many people have travelled on horse backs, rode on bicycles and drove cars.  I had the added pleasure of "flying as a learner pilot" on planes.

I can still remember the first time sensation of riding on and controlling such devices.  I am sure riding on the lead-out energy flying saucer will  yield the same type of sensation...

I still have to buy gas for the car.  If I do not need to buy fuel on the flying saucer...

Going to anywhere on Earth is easy.  Crossing Country Borders?  Going to the moon is possible...

Have USA and China mastered the technology???

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #344 on: January 27, 2016, 06:07:32 PM »
Leading-out gravitational energy
Reference: Rhead100 video 6.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC6Qlj1Mbo8

1.   At 2:07 time, the 46 pound pendulum was at its maximum height position.  A small push with the fingers lifted the 74 pound weight twice.
2.   Between 2:07 and 3:30, note that the weight was lifted twice with each push from the fingers.
3.   The weight was lifted when the pendulum was at the lowest height position.
4.   That position was the highest velocity position.  The centrifugal force was highest.
5.   Notice that the maximum swing position was hardly changed.

Some possible deductions:
a.   The 74 pound weight was not lifted until the amplitude of the swing was high enough.
b.   The sum of the twice lifted height appeared to be more than the once movement of the fingers.
c.   The potential energy shown by the 74 pound weight was given by the formula mgh where m is mass of the 74 pound weight, g is the gravitational acceleration and h is the total height lifted.
d.   The supplied energy is the force of the push (f) times the finger movement (d) or fd.
e.   It appeared that output energy was more than supplied energy (mgh > fd) between 2:07 and 3:30.  Before 2:07, the supplied energy is used to increase the amplitude of the swing. 

Our explanation is that gravitational energy was lead-out or brought-in.  There is no violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy.  That video was an experimental confirmation.

It may be worthwhile to reproduce the Raymond Head setup so that the experiment can be repeated and improved.

One way to improve the Milkovic 2SO is to replace the pendulum with an unbalanced wheel.   
For small oscillations, the unbalanced wheel acts exactly like a pendulum.
In the case of a pendulum, the amount of energy provided per unit time (power) is limited by the oscillation period. 
The unbalanced wheel can have much faster rotation.  The Chan Wheel is a good example.

 

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