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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #195 on: November 18, 2015, 10:36:26 PM »
Meeting with Bill Fung and TS Lau at Hopewell Center.

Tseung: "I am absolutely sure that some UFOs are man-made.  The UFO seen on Nov 7, 2015 in Southern California is most likely an USA made UFO.  My focus is on defining Meaningful Economic Activities."

Bill: "I shall order the electromagnets and do the proof of concept experiment."

Lau: "Jesse and team will try to record the whole development of the lead-out energy flying saucer."

Tseung: "I shall include Mutual Credits and Special Economic Zones."

Bill: "Refresh my memory."

Tseung: "Mutual Credits is for Country A to give X amount of Country A currency to Country B so that Country B can buy the goods and services of Country A and vice versa.  Country A and Country B can set up Special Economic Zones for each other to invest with special rules."

Bill: "I remember now.  The goods and services do not need to be of the lowest price."

Lau: "If China helps a Country to grow rice and buys most of the results, China can return some farm land to nature.  That Country will learn the best agricultural techniques, have the best machinery and earn money from the crops.  It is a win-win.  Prosperity will be spread to all Nations."

Tseung: "With Mutual Credits, there is no debt.  We can then introduce Lead-out Energy Flying Saucer to the World.  We need to preach Love Thy Enemy.  We must not allow hatred and revenge to destroy the World."

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« Reply #196 on: November 19, 2015, 02:27:24 AM »
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« Reply #197 on: November 19, 2015, 05:42:18 PM »
The talk with a Pilipino Domestic Helper.

Helper: "People like me do not have a future.  I cannot even give my only son a proper future."

Tseung: "You work hard.  Save all your money and support your family.  The economy of Philippines is getting better.  You should have hope."

Helper: "My husband has other girls.  I do not blame him.  I have been working in Hong Kong for over fifteen years.  The only time I spent with him was the three week vacation between contracts every two years.  My son is now nearly thirty and do not have a proper job."

Tseung: "Have you thought about going back and spend time with your family?"

Helper: "In Hong Kong, I know I have a job and can earn money.  Some of my friends went back and became miserable.  The family no longer had income.  The family depended on that money from Hong Kong."

Tseung: "The purpose of the two year contract is supposed to provide temporary help.  It is not meant to break up the family."

Helper: "I did not give my son proper care.  The only thing I can do is to keep sending money to support him."

That also happened to China in a different way.  The farmers left the villages to seek work.  Now the Chinese Government is planning to unite the families and let them have a happier and more prosperous future.  Once the Government plans, action will be taken.  Is that the advantage of a stable government and 5 year plans?

Ghost Cities will disappear???

Thinking how to prevent temporary measures turning permanent is a Meaningful Economic Activity.

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #198 on: November 19, 2015, 11:14:29 PM »
Taking care of the disadvantaged

In any society, there will be groups who depend on help.  These include the sick, the disabled, the old and those who met with natural disasters.

Hong Kong is facing the problem of taking care of the old.  Should the help be dependent on need?  Or should there be a universal sum to all senior citizens?  Or should there be some middle ground?  What are the complexities in these cases?

Is this a Meaningful Economic Activity to be discussed?

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« Reply #199 on: November 19, 2015, 11:24:10 PM »
Love thy enemy as a Meaningful Economic Activity

In the Modern World, the weapons are becoming more and more destructive.  They are bombs that destroy planes and ordinary citizens.  Unfortunately, the statements from Politicians are full of hate and revenge. 

Should we be thinking about - love thy enemy?

Germany and Japan did not become the enemy after the Second World War.  USA helped them to rebuild.  Was that an act of Love Thy Enemy?

Some senior citizens said: "Not in my life time."  They still remembered the sufferings in the Second World War.  They still hated Japan.  But most of the Japanese who took part in the War already passed away.

How should we introduce the concept of Love Thy Enemy?

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« Reply #200 on: November 20, 2015, 07:04:18 PM »
Some senior citizens said: "Not in my life time."  They still remembered the sufferings in the Second World War.  They still hated Japan.  But most of the Japanese who took part in the War already passed away.

How should we introduce the concept of Love Thy Enemy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4b6wSDjBb3E

The teaching from the Bible. 

We can now provide prosperity for everyone on Earth.  There is no need to build happiness on the sufferings of others.  Just increase Modern Wealth.  Love is the greatest virtue. 

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« Reply #201 on: November 20, 2015, 11:01:52 PM »
Some senior citizens said: "Not in my life time."  They still remembered the sufferings in the Second World War.  They still hated Japan.  But most of the Japanese who took part in the War already passed away.

How should we introduce the concept of Love Thy Enemy?

Time to forget and forgive the pains from history.  U.K. returned Hong Kong to China.  Almost all Colonies got their independence. 

Tourism enables Nations and Individuals to have contact first hand.  Internet allows instant communication.  Different concepts, traditions, beliefs are undergoing re-examination. 

Is contraception or abortion wrong?
Should we value "give me freedom or give me death"?
Are the genes of some races superior?
Nationalism is good and one must die to defend one's country?
Democracy is the best political system?
One man one wife is the only acceptable marriage system?
There are just no UFOs nor Aliens?
The Bible predicts nuclear conflict between the East and the West?
Love Thy Enemy is just the act of cowards?
Believe the Governments, they know better?
Every Nation must strive to become the lowest cost producer?
Greed is good?

Sometimes it is painful to re-examine one's accepted religion, beliefs or values. 



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« Reply #202 on: November 21, 2015, 11:37:02 AM »
If I were to advise an African Nation, what would I say?

1.  Consider the Special Economic Zones.  China used them to learn Capitalism, Import, Exports, manufacturing, money as incentive etc.  Check out Shenzhen.  See how a Modern City was built from nothing.  Accept foreign investment and allow them to achieve win-win.  May even consider letting them win more if they will impart knowledge and technology.  The African Nation must be the master of the SEZ.  It is like the student must be the one to learn.  The teacher is only the helper.

2.  The commodity prices are falling.  Use this period to learn as fast as possible.  Talk to China about Mutual Credits.  Seek win-win solutions.  Do not just think in terms of becoming the lowest cost producer.  Some aspects such as real estate, tourism (especially in Special Economic Zones) will be local.  If one mastered building a road, it would be much easier to learn building bridges, dams, railways etc.

3.  Develop 5 year plans.  Let the University Students participate.  Put the draft on Internet and invite International participation.  Apply the 5 year plans in Special Economic Zones first if appropriate.  Treat it as an experiment.  In science, we monitor and learn.  Do not use the politicians' trick of blaming.

4.  Understand Modern Wealth.  Define and increase the quality and quantity of Meaningful Economic Activities.  Introduce the best practices, the best thinking and invite comments internationally.  Do not simply copy.

5.  Develop Innovation Centers.  Innovate not just on high technology but on anything that can improve any aspects of society.  Let the citizens participate and feel proud.  These can be both physical and on-line.

Preach Love Thy Enemy.  Develop the self confidence.
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« Reply #203 on: November 21, 2015, 07:28:56 PM »
If China can grow at 6.5% via 5 year plans, can USA do the same?

Some economists say no.  They pointed out that some GDP growth is via Infrastructures.  USA already has under utilized highways and air ports.  Building high speed trains like China does not make sense.  Thus the 5 year plan model is not going to guarantee 6.5% growth.  The growth will have to come from innovation.  Innovation comes with unknowns.

I would like to ask you to think back in the early days of the Internet.  I suggested that it would be the greatest economic engine for the World since the Industrial Revolution.  Am I right?

I would like to predict that the lead-out energy flying saucer technology will lead to the new paradigm.  If USA encourages its development for civilian use, the USA GDP can growth at 6.5% easily.  The USA 5 year plans will include experimental cities; replacement of cars and airports; replacement of fossil fuel power stations; redesigning and resupplying all electrical appliances.  I have not included the replacement of all war planes, ships and other weapons.

I would like to see that the technology is spread to all Nations.  The resulting prosperity will lower the temptation of wars.  There are no permanent friends or enemies in business or politics.  Love Thy Enemies as they will be your friends one day.

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« Reply #204 on: November 22, 2015, 12:41:59 AM »
Is China pursuing the right strategy when it does not announce that it has mastered the lead-out energy flying saucer technology ahead of other Nations?

The upside is some pride.  But it is clear to the Chinese Leaders that USA and may be some other Nations already have the same or similar technology.  It will be a short lived glory.

The downside is the potential preemptive strike by USA.  Such a risk is too much to take.

The alternative is to do the research and development quietly.  Time is on the side of China.  With peace, China can keep rolling out 5 year plans.  Its citizens will become more and more prosperous.  It can introduce concepts of Modern Wealth, Mutual Credits, Super Democracy and achieve win-win with friendly Nations.  It can shelf development in disputed territories.  It can preach Love Thy Enemies.  Its Economic Power will surpass USA in absolute terms.  Its per capital income will rise until it is fully prosperous.  Nationalism will slowly give way to International Brotherhood.

Many Chinese will have to seek wives outside China because of the effect of the one child policy.  Tourism and Inter-racial marriages will be common place. 

An unexpected Nation will announce and demonstrate the lead-out energy flying saucer technology.  Then China will introduce the products...  It is the factory of the World.

It can shelf development in disputed territories.  This is a political decision.  Will the Chinese Leadership do it?  Who are the advisors?

Nationalism will slowly give way to International Brotherhood.  When that happens, where is the dispute?
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« Reply #205 on: November 22, 2015, 11:18:12 PM »
How would you encourage the youngsters to use the Internet effectively and not just wasting time on playing games?

I would suggest that the postings on the Internet will be considered as qualification in applying for jobs.  Governments should take the lead.  Governments should advertise their vacant positions, invite candidates to post, learn from each other and use the postings as one of the criteria to determine hiring.  Soon other private Companies will follow.

The websites or blogs of Individuals will suddenly achieve high standards.  Postings in Public Forums will reach new heights.  Do I need to say more?

Super Democracy requires the citizens to express their views, support others if appropriate and vote on-line on important issues.  This is one way to stimulate movement in that direction...

Love Thy Enemies - even if they are from cyber space.  The postings will be constructive.

Will China be the Nation to take the lead?  Or will it be one of the Developing Nations?  Is this innovation?

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« Reply #206 on: November 23, 2015, 09:26:12 PM »
It is your right to post what you want. You keep it all in one thread so I see no harm in it.

Massive UFO sighting over California recently. Has the leadout energy now been revealed? Or is Jimmy Kimmel up to his old tricks? It's on the front of YouTube so it must be true? Hmmm...

One heck of a weather baloon. Fox recently announced the return of the X-files in January. Viral marketing campaign?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu7mNmqJJ10

At the Senior Center, after watching the video, some comments:

Comment 1: "I never believe in UFOs.  But the footage is convincing.  Thousands of people saw it.  There were dozens of postings.  So the event must have happened."

Comment 2: "I am more interested in the beginning of the video.  That dot of light seemed to hover, move randomly with sudden turns and up and down movements.  That behavior is not characteristics of rockets or missiles."

Comment 3: "If you follow up with scientific explanation and proof-of-concept experiments, you will have worldwide attention."

Comment 1: "You sure have my attention."

Tseung: "I believe that USA was telling the World that it has the UFO technology in a low key manner.  My prediction is that when an unexpected Nation announces and demonstrates the UFO technology, USA (and China) will respond with well developed prototypes or products."

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« Reply #207 on: November 24, 2015, 06:18:04 AM »
Research Assistant, Holly, and Mr. Lau at Hong Kong University.  Now the experiment has a home.  The use of one magnet and one coil was not useful as the magnet got attracted to the iron core when there was no current.

Planned to use two iron-core coils.  More research needed...

That photo was taken on Sep 6.  It took us two months to realize that we could buy existing electromagnets.  These are now in Hong Kong, ready for the experiment.  It would be too much to expect success at the first attempt but we hope to learn together.

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« Reply #208 on: November 24, 2015, 02:35:27 PM »
Question:  What will happen if the proof-of-concept experiment is successful?

If it were not successful, more work needs to be done.  I just need to remember the story of the Harvard Lecture.  If you think you have a great idea, at least 1,000 person have thought of it.  The good thing is that only 10% or 100 person will write it down. The better thing is that only 10% or 10 will act on it.  The best news is that only 10% or 1 person will overcome all difficulties.  Are you the one?

If it were successful, it is time to talk about Modern Wealth, Super Democracy, Love thy enemies together with explaining the technology.  The UFO (or Trident Missile) on Nov 7, 2015 in Southern California has caught the attention of many.  Talking about UFOs and explaining the scientific basis will be accepted.

If Hong Kong were the place to introduce the lead-out energy flying saucer technology, what is likely to happen?  Nobody expects Hong Kong to announce and demonstrate such paradigm shift technologies. USA is extremely unlikely to bomb or do preemptive strikes against Hong Kong.  The World will know about the technology and benefit together.

Is that the Divine Will?

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« Reply #209 on: November 24, 2015, 10:53:10 PM »
Scientific explanation of why the two electromagnet repulsion experiment is successful.

1.  The ferromagnetic material in the electromagnets can be thought of as consisting of many tiny magnets orientated randomly.

2.  When DC current is passed through, these tiny magnets will be orientated to act as a large magnet.

3.  The energy used to align the tiny magnets can be smaller than the resulting magnetic energy of the electromagnet.

4.  We are effectively leading-out or bringing-in the energy already present in the ferromagnetic material to do work.  Thus the Input Energy can be less than the Output Energy.

5.  If we can lead-out such energy one time, we will be able to lead-out such energy many times via circular motion.

6.  The remaining question is - if we use the lead-out energy, how would the energy be replenished?  We know that there is gravitational and electromagnetic energy in all surrounding space.  Can such energy come in to replenish the used energy?

7.  Even if we cannot answer point 6 completely now, the electromagnetic repulsion experiment will still succeed.  It can easily be replicated.

The World can learn together.  Hong Kong can take the lead.  Hopefully, no Nation will bomb and destroy Hong Kong.  With the information in this thread, any Nation or any University can do the proof-of-concept experiment.

Love Thy Enemies .  They will be your friends one day.  History of Colonialism and Slavery must not happen again.  The Colonialists and Slave Masters already rotted in their graves.  There is no need to stir up hate.  Modern Wealth is the quality and quantity of Meaningful Economic Activities.  Such activities does not need to build on the sufferings of others...

Think International Brotherhood.

 

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