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Offline ltseung888

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #150 on: November 07, 2015, 06:24:53 PM »
Why State Capitalism is working now.


1.  Before the advent of the computers, it was impossible to gather and organize all the data required for planning.  China relied on its Officials to report agricultural results in the 1950s.  Some of the reports were plainly fabricated.  The Officials had no training and they got their position because of claiming loyalty to Chairman Mao.


2.  Leaders had little education and were ill equipped to handle the complexity of running a Nation.  For example, Chairman Mao claimed a larger population was good for China in the 1950 and 1960s.  Baby boom occurred in China.  It was after the painful lesson that China introduced the one child policy.


3.  The general level of education of the citizens was poor.  They were not skilled workers.  They were not architects.  They were not city planners. They could not mass produce products.  They could not produce products that the World wants.


4.  Now, the World has changed.  Knowledge is no longer a scarcity.  Planning with the computer and spreadsheets is effective.  Data collection is much more accurate with scanners, cameras, videos etc.  The economists have different models to examine and compare.


5.  Previously, USA and the Multi-Nationals have the lead in technology, capital and marketing.  They championed free enterprise.  They advocated free competition.  They knew that they could win easily.  A small family business just do not have the chance to compete globally against them.  Then state capitalism stepped in.  The tinny Country of Singapore developed that concept well.  The State helped businesses in every possible way - from giving seminars, inviting foreign technology and capital to financing the locals.


6.  China learned from that model and improved it much more.  China can plan on doubling its GDP in 5 years.  That translates to different activities in infrastructure development, real estate, heavy industry, light industry, agriculture, medical care, entertainment etc.  Some of these can be given to private individuals.  For example the restaurant business can be given to private individuals.  Making money is glorious.  The innovative spirit prospered.  Some undertakings such as building of Dams, Bridges and high speed trains had to be done by the Government.


7.  Much of the planning is common sense.  With a stable Government, things get done.  In Hong Kong, we experienced the stupidity of so called democracy first hand.  The elected members of the Legislative Council behaved worse than hooligans.  They deliberately disrupt and delay legislation and laws.  Things no longer get done.


8.  Taiwan is another stupid example of so called democracy.  The Government changed hands or expected to change hands every few years.  Instead of focusing on economy and prosperity, the politics focused on fear and personality attacks.


9.  China now plans to grow at a pace of around 6.5% in the coming 5 years.  Will it succeed?  The record in the past 3 decades speaks for itself.  Much of the data is now available on the Internet for discussion, comments, monitoring and improving.  Private individuals and enterprises can see the opportunities.  For example, they know the emphasis on the Internal Consumer Market.  They know that they can count on support in that direction.


State Capitalism appears to be better than unplanned capitalism.  Any responsible parent will help to plan for the future of their children...  Letting them do whatever they want is not liberalism.  It is leading them into temptation and failure.


Is State Planning on the lead-out energy flying saucer a good thing?  It is much better than leaving it at the hands and resources of a few old, retired persons...  But can these old persons still make a contribution???

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« Reply #150 on: November 07, 2015, 06:24:53 PM »

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Re: Ufo propu engine, closed loop
« Reply #151 on: November 07, 2015, 10:48:13 PM »
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Is State Planning on the lead-out energy flying saucer a good thing?  It is much better than leaving it at the hands and resources of a few old, retired persons...  But can these old persons still make a contribution???
The old peoples passion for the UFO tech is required to convince the State. Old people have the brains but the state has the man power and $ to make it happen.

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« Reply #152 on: November 07, 2015, 11:06:16 PM »
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So are you in or are you out ???????
Beam me up Scotty! The politics is an unfortunate necessary evil. Comes with the territory of working with other flawed humans.

Can we build small version of your space ships first? Proof of concept type thing, or does it require large mass to generate the needed force for lift off? I understand a lot of our magnetic and electrical devices become more efficient the larger they are. I can't build particle accelerators and such but I built a small prop driven aircraft that the "experts" told me wasn't possible. The "experts" said that not only was it not possible but if it was possible it would have already been done. Welp I built it, took me about two weeks to figure it out, then flew it after which the "experts" quickly stopped making noise and disappeared. ;D

To this day I still have yet to see anyone replicate what I did, the way I did it. And I can now do it even easier. I still get a nice chuckle every time an engineering student or company is interested in what I did and wants more info.

It will be difficult to raise the $ we need if we can't build a smaller, 6 foot or less, working prototype of the UFO or the lead out energy device.

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« Reply #153 on: November 08, 2015, 12:10:51 AM »
The lesson State Capitalism learned from the Free Market.


One important lesson China learned is allowing competition.  In competition, the best gets better with each success.  People will invest in it.  It can go public and more people will invest.  At the same time, many enterprises are allowed to fail.  If  the State pops up a Company, that Company will last for a long time even if it were run poorly.


The open 5 years plans and the allowance of some free reporting prevented the rise and continuation of really bad Companies.  There are open bids for most projects.  The goals and milestones are predefined.  Many projects such as construction are effectively replication of known efforts.  Planning for these are relatively easy.  The plans for a new City can be obtained and improved from the plans of another successful City.


http://www.scmp.com/news/china/policies-politics/article/1875480/chinas-new-five-year-plan-aims-make-nation-faster
Still growing at 6.5% up to 2020.  If China reveals the UFO secret, meeting that target is a piece of cake.


The plans call for raising the living standards of those underprivileged.  The new wealth is forced to spread.  There are still opportunities to become super rich with the stock market.  There are stories of ordinary citizens becoming billionaires.  That gives the drive and dedication for the whole Nation.


The UFOs made in USA and China are flying.  The lead-out energy theory and the draft design for the flying saucer is out.  In China, the scientists and engineers who have built successful prototypes are immediately recruited by the Government.  They will not go hungry.  Wang Shen He now lives in a mansion in Beijing.  He no longer sells blood to get his research going...


My bet is on a small Nation completing or repeating the research and development.  It can then demonstrate the prototype and produce products.  Much of the initial work will have to be done without the publicity and limelight.  A garage mechanic is unlikely to have the resources to do it.  If he were in USA, he might be visited by the man in black...  He might be sabotaged by "supporters or investors"...

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« Reply #154 on: November 08, 2015, 12:33:02 AM »
The old peoples passion for the UFO tech is required to convince the State. Old people have the brains but the state has the man power and $ to make it happen.


The UFOs made in USA and China are already flying.  It is a matter of convincing the Leaders to disclose the technology and direct it to non-military applications. 


My bet is on a totally unexpected Nation...

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« Reply #154 on: November 08, 2015, 12:33:02 AM »
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« Reply #155 on: November 08, 2015, 01:22:30 AM »
In a speech to last week's plenum, Xi, who is also the party's general secretary, said China's annual economic growth over the next five years should be at least 6.5 per cent. The target was necessary to "realize China's goal of doubling gross domestic product and per capita income by 2020 on the basis of 2010".


If China were to deploy the lead-out energy flying saucer technology, how many electrical appliances will be replaced?  How many cars, ships and planes will be improved?  How many homes will be upgraded?  What are the new infrastructures?


What are the new Meaningful Economic Activities?  Will there be a test City?

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« Reply #156 on: November 08, 2015, 02:03:09 AM »
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My bet is on a totally unexpected Nation...
Yes. Maybe Norway or Finland or something like that.

THEY DONT HAVE THE REAL THING .... I DO !
You have it wrapped up in to many Batman riddles. If you have it, they will wait for you to die like Tesla and take all your notes. He ran out of time and lost the chance to give it to everyone for free. By keeping secrets he essentially gave it to only the government for free.

Release the UFO tech for freeeeee. No flying entity or contraption should be earthly bound by the human mind. Let it soar to the heavens like the mighty eagle, and so on and so forth.

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« Reply #157 on: November 08, 2015, 02:42:52 AM »
Will the thirteen 5 year plan spur innovation?

In January, Carly Fiorina told Caffeinated Thoughts, a Christian conservative blog, “yeah the Chinese can take a test, but what they can’t do is innovate.” That sentiment, fair or not, has long been widespread on this side of the Pacific. Now it is increasingly informing the reform agenda in China. According to the source in Beijing, “Chinese copy everything because for a long, long period there has been no innovation. Now there are many people in companies and schools across the world, and everybody is looking to make the next big thing.”

Read more: http://www.nasdaq.com/article/chinas-13th-five-year-plan-three-key-questions-cm537626#ixzz3qrNllrSZ


The lead-out energy flying saucer will change all that attitude.  China is likely to wait for the unexpected Nation to announce it first...

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« Reply #158 on: November 08, 2015, 03:40:18 AM »
...But don't bother if your only into politics we don't do politics we just build space craft ....
Not big on politics myself. I enjoy the building part most of all. Once it's built and flys, I'm off to the next build. Sounds like you have a good plan in place with the Xprize. I know little of the magnetic vortex you speak of but believe it does exist.


...The lead-out energy flying saucer will change all that attitude.  China is likely to wait for the unexpected Nation to announce it first...
Yes. It's much easier to copy once someone else, be that a person or nation, presents their finding first ;)

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« Reply #159 on: November 08, 2015, 05:41:03 AM »
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2015-11/03/c_134780397.htm


China's 13th Five-Year Plan to benefit world -- overseas experts

BEIJING, Nov. 3 (Xinhua) -- China's 13th Five-Year Plan (2016-2020) on National Economic and Social Development will not only meet its own development demand, but also have a positive impact on the rest of the world, overseas experts have said.

The document, adopted at the Fifth Plenary Session of the 18th Communist Party of China (CPC) Central Committee which ended on Oct. 29, sets guidelines and targets for the next five years. It highlights the ideas of innovation, coordination, green development, opening up and sharing to fulfill its goals.

The next five-year period, the 13th since the founding of new China in 1949, was described as a decisive stage for building a moderately prosperous society by 2020 in the eight-chapter proposal.


*** China can help to develop and buy more agricultural products,(e.g. from Ethiopia etc) and continue to be an economic engine for the World.  China may even order "non-essential" goods (e.g. plastic flowers) to stimulate the economy and industry of Developing Nations.  Such may seem insignificant but may build up the confidence and capability of some Developing Nations.  My gut feel is that China will concentrate on Infrastructure projects that can be seen.

*** I have a feeling that an unexpected Nation will announce the lead-out energy flying saucer technology in this time frame (2016-2020).  It may be from one of the poorest Developing Nations. They have nothing to lose but everything to gain.  The action will cause the World to rethink.

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« Reply #160 on: November 08, 2015, 06:38:10 AM »
Just received a phone call from a friend.  Her son got into University and hopes to enter the medical profession.  She planned for this ever since the son was born.


She mentioned another friend whose son also was at University age but the grades were not enough to get in.  That family allowed the son much freedom. 


Can this be compared to State Capitalism where the parents directed the development?  Compare this with liberal democracy where the parents let the youngster do whatever pleases him?


What will be the future of these two youngsters?  Think about 5 years from now?  If I live that long, I may post the comparison.


The Chinese parents will overwhelmingly favor the former...


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« Reply #161 on: November 08, 2015, 07:03:09 AM »
Freedom is everything.  It is the only thing.  What someone chooses to do with it is up to them.  It is up to them to prosper, or fail.
Either choice is their fault.

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« Reply #162 on: November 08, 2015, 08:38:54 AM »
Freedom is everything.  It is the only thing.  What someone chooses to do with it is up to them.  It is up to them to prosper, or fail.
Either choice is their fault.

Bill


Preach this to the Developing Nations.  Listen to Dambisa Moyo.


When you are in a privileged position with comfortable homes, food on the table, time to enjoy movies, computer games, etc., you can preach freedom.


USA, Europe, Australia, Canada etc. are in such privileged positions.  They are in such positions mainly due to the Industrial Revolution.  But the dark side was conquering and robbing other Nations.  The modern World with Nuclear Weapons could no longer repeat such actions.


The alternative is to work smarter and that means planning.  Some individual freedom will have to be restricted. 


I stupidly thought that innovation meant pushing as hard as possible.  Individual efforts and resources could overcome all odds.  Now I realize that the UFOs are already flying.  The USA and Chinese Leaders know it.  The knowledge has not spread to the masses.  If not handled properly, the military people might use excuses to do "preemptive strikes" and destroy the human race.

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« Reply #163 on: November 08, 2015, 08:37:02 PM »
Industrial Revolution for all Nations to eliminate temptation of War.


The reason why some Countries started wars in the past was the Gain.  If it would lose little and gain much, it would be tempted to start wars or conquests.

If the other side could fight back with massive destruction, there would be no temptation of war.

If a single Nation dominates (such as USA today), other Nations would have to "submit" to that Nation.  Some may argue that this is good as that single Nation can act as World Policeman.

Another alternative was in the Cold War days when there were two camps each able to destroy the other.  Small Nations would find shelter in one camp or other. 

Is there another alternative?  If all Nations are Developed and that all Nations can increase Modern Wealth via increasing the quality and quantity of Meaningful Economic Activities, there will be no temptation of War.  Prosperity need not come from conquering or robbing others.  Nations can exchange goods and services with respect.

The Internet has helped to spread knowledge.  Hopefully, it will spread good will at the same time.

The UFOs are being sighted everywhere.  Some of these are made in USA or China.  Other Nations will master the technology if not already done so.  The UFO technology can potentially wipe out all military advantage of today.  (It can be compared to guns and cannons out casting all swords, arrows and armors).

USA obviously wants to keep its privileged position and tries to keep the technology top secret.

China fears a "preemptive strike" and prefers to continue its industrial revolution in the conventional way.  There is much research and development but such will be kept as top secret.

What happens if an unexpected Nation (e.g. an African Nation) announces and demonstrates the lead-out energy flying saucer technology?  No Nation will think that it tries to dominate the World.  That African Nation will gain much reputation and respect.  It will be developed much faster.  Other Developing Nations will follow its lead.

Economists and writers will promote the third alternative - prosperity to all Nations via Modern Wealth.  USA does not need to keep Military Superiority to guarantee peace.  China does not need to worry about preemptive strikes.

Should we help one of these unexpected Nations to acquire the lead-out energy flying saucer technology?  We could claim it as "teachings from Aliens"...

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« Reply #164 on: November 08, 2015, 11:30:56 PM »
5 year plans

Not all things can be planned.  Bur a significant number can be.

When the youngster goes to University, there will be unknowns.  There will be new people, new experiences but most of them can be foreseen. 

The parents who plan and monitor are more likely to have successful graduate sons and daughters...

 

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