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Author Topic: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE  (Read 28613 times)

profitis

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #30 on: November 05, 2014, 11:26:41 AM »
I'm still in testing phases but yes these cells can be made wafer-thin and flexible.they need to have very specific advantages besides just lifetime over regular batteries in order to be of value commercially.the most powerful factor for regular batteries is low-cost/power-density but not always

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #31 on: November 05, 2014, 11:32:37 AM »
Do you have access to labs/chemicals jon

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #32 on: November 05, 2014, 03:02:11 PM »
I'm still in testing phases but yes these cells can be made wafer-thin and flexible.they need to have very specific advantages besides just lifetime over regular batteries in order to be of value commercially.the most powerful factor for regular batteries is low-cost/power-density but not always

have a look at robert murrey smiths vids on the batteries he's been making:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4AkVj-qnJxNtKuz3rkq16A

jonfrommanahawkin1

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #33 on: November 06, 2014, 08:39:02 AM »
@ qtrhack, Robert is a good guy he works on some good stuff, he's a very smart man.

@profitis, depending on what chemicals I do, and if I don't I can sometimes make them. I would label my setup as more a hobby setup then anything. Like I do sometimes refine gold for a few extra bucks if it's relevant

But I did a videolog here https://youtu.be/8lBucCP8n1s demonstrating how reactive mg is.
profitis, do you sometimes used crystalrefers from old radios?

profitis

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #34 on: November 06, 2014, 11:11:03 AM »
Smith is good and I wont be surprised if he's taken a peek at some of my work on the karpen threads.his graphite-air karpen is exellent but he used paper as the electrolyte absorbent which is a no-no because it can provide fuel.I've sent out word for him to repeat his graphite karpen experiment using fiberglass or nylon absorbents instead of paper but I don't know if he's repeated the experiment. Paper,cardboard,starch must never be used in karpen setups because they provide fuel.cotton-cellulose is also a fuel

profitis

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #35 on: November 06, 2014, 11:22:21 AM »
@jon I use semicontuctor thin chemicaly deposited layers sometimes for investigation and I use crystals too eg FeS pyrite or PbS galena.the infrared-sensitive semiconductors give some very interesting results in certain photoelectrochemical setups.I always try make sure that there is no possibility of corrosion-current in my setups and this is why I always have advanced inorganic chemistry textbooks closeby.the best inorganic textbooks are the old issues from the 1940's, 1950's or 60's where they give lots of lil precious details in their sidenotes that you don't find in modern textbooks.how's the magnesi doing is the current still going?

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #36 on: November 06, 2014, 01:31:46 PM »
I agree 110%, favorite text books are the early ones
I have a visualized chemistry book from the early 40's that is torn ripped and was wet at one time and I wouldn't trade it for any amount of modern textbooks I've seen.
And the same goes for an early electric text book I have. They were basically being thrown out but I grabbed them and started reading them. Then when I picked up some modern books on the same topics, they just couldn't compare. There is so much information that is left out in modern books where in the old ones nothing is taken for granted. And those things that aren't stated can change everything!

My sister in law has a chemistry degree,  and one day she was going on about organic this and organic that. So I simply said "how isn't a potato chip organic? If it wasn't on the pericardial table of elements it wouldn't exist! "

She eventually agreed and stopped preaching, however the point is that the old stuff teaches objective though and criticism. Where today "the nail that stands up gets hammered down"

Does your design incorporate a gold-plated cylinder?

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #37 on: November 07, 2014, 03:29:04 AM »
Profitis,
my good sir, I need you to check my math. If you would be so kind? I'm trying to find my average watts per cell to confirm a hypothesisabout the drops in voltage and the spikes and amperage and vice versa

I've been noticing that when the voltage is high the amps are low and when the voltage is low the amps are high,  so my hypothesis is that the total Watts never chang threw the cell making the changes redundant. However I would like to know why this is happening and I'll keep changing variables till I isolate the cause, but no the less I think it doesn't matter

I randomly sampled 4 data points of peaks and valleys and their corresponding values
I'll have more over time to widen the sample

.706v. 1.00ma
1.138v .68 MA
1.202v .60 MA
.69m 1.04 ma

I got 729.5 milli watts

I may have moved my decimal wrong and your in put is always appreciated

Jon

profitis

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #38 on: November 07, 2014, 07:21:36 AM »
Ah yes jon it is probably due to fluctuation of h2 gas pockets liberation not only from the cathode but also from the anode. Its like a ordinary cell: more current draw equals voltage dive over the IR(internal resistance).less current draw equals less voltage drop over the IR. Trapped/liberated gas pockets causing fluctuations in current draw density. There is a cell that I would like you to build and put on youtube jon and it is quite high-powered and definitely everlasting.are you up for this.it will bring us a bit of fame.we are not going to reveal its inner-working secret to the public just show it powerup something what do you say.

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #39 on: November 07, 2014, 12:06:19 PM »
Well I don't know about any fame but ok let's give it a shot! And no open source? Doesn't that go against this forums ethics. I will because it's your design but I hope when it's done you will reconsider, maybe after you have a paton?

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #40 on: November 07, 2014, 01:33:18 PM »
Oh yeah I almost forgot to post this video for you to check out https://youtu.be/8lBucCP8n1s
I make a candle from vinegar showing how reactive mg is

profitis

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #41 on: November 07, 2014, 02:36:11 PM »
I've given enough textbook-teachings away jon so I've done my ethical part. its time to gearup for getting the corporates interested now and this will be part of the plan.since you are a computer boff and are in the biggest firstworld country your in a position to do lots of things that I can't.can you send your email addy to my inbox please jon

profitis

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #42 on: November 07, 2014, 02:48:38 PM »
I'm on a phone contract that gives me gigs but not airtime jon so can't open youtube right now.what's the candle doing

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #43 on: November 07, 2014, 02:56:36 PM »
The mg releases the hydrogen bonds in the mild actic acid in the vinegar and to drive the reaction faster I add iodized salt and potassium chloride (no salt), I do this in a glass jar (old salsa jar)then with a cotton twine flash arrestor threw a small hole in the lid I can then light it like a candle.

Got to love chemistry

profitis

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Re: New cell type? NANOCRYSTAL OXIDE
« Reply #44 on: November 07, 2014, 10:57:30 PM »
Luv it to bits.chemistry is power.I sent u a mail jon hope u got it