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Author Topic: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water  (Read 465308 times)

TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #510 on: November 25, 2014, 06:22:13 PM »
Here's (some of) my input: There is only one thing preventing proper testing of any claim, and that is the behaviour of the claimant. 


The collective effort that Chet mentions can accomplish everything that is necessary for proper testing of just about any claim. That's the easy part. Getting the claimant actually to submit a working device for proper testing... that is another story altogether, and the failure of any particular claimant to submit such a device for testing is itself very informative, in my opinion.

Take, for example the Akula/Ruslan/Stivep devices that allegedly run themselves. Several of them are small, use cheap commonly available components and even have had their schematics presented, and have even been replicated to produce the exact waveforms that were presented by the claimants... yet none of the replications actually "self run". So why do these claimants not take one of these devices that they have built and demonstrated on YT, with the claim that it will self-run, put it in a box and send it off to Chet, or Stefan, or even Sterling A. ? I know why... and so do you.

TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #511 on: November 25, 2014, 06:35:09 PM »
Now, let me ask a couple of questions. How many "goalpost movements" (rescheduling of test dates or product availability dates for example) should we allow a claimant to make, before we conclude that testing may actually never be allowed to happen? One, two, three, four? If a claimant says he has about ten working units on hand, but still won't present one for testing for months and months after that claim is made, nor will he actually show those units or present his own evidence of testing them, can we reasonably conclude anything from that?



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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #512 on: November 25, 2014, 06:52:38 PM »
I think I will back off this thread for a while unless something changes and mark this as an unverified claim with no attempt to seek verification.

If something changes I will jump back in again. this may include Patents filed, documents published or if Mr Potter agrees to a test and sets a confirmed date and location so we can all organize travel.  I will also jump back in if generators "powered by water" from GDS start selling especially if they require all or partial payment in advance either directly or indirectly via distributors.

if Mr Potter wants to allow a test as I said I am happy to go with 24 hours notice to any location in North America to be part of a team.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #513 on: November 25, 2014, 06:59:12 PM »
Mark
honestly I am not interested in any one claim,I am interested in a solution to a long standing  problem .
This subject of this thread is GDS.  I suggest that we keep the discussion here focused on that.
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Too few helping hands and too many helping mouths...

we Don't need helping mouths ,we need helping hands .
Just what does that mean Chet?  You have been offered sound advice on how to conduct testing that will yield meaningful results in the very unlikely event that Greg Potter / GDS ever allows any testing.  All available evidence points to Greg Potter holding his hand out for cash and handing back the stuff we scrape off our shoes.
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We have solved this problem, now we need to grow the model.
What is the problem?  Is it that you do not like advice or opinion that is correct?
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I will investigate a solution with TinselKoala ,if he chooses not to input,


then we shall see what other options there are ?


don't get me wrong Mark ,I am interested in a solution not focusing on yet another example of the problem.
a solution here at this forum ,an open source over unity forum.


respectfully
Chet
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I am in no rush ,there is no need,i would just like others here to benefit the same way that OUR group has.
its actually quite wonderful....
and I am not looking to "steal" members or start other websites or money generating venues ,
Could care less about that .AND WON"T be apart of that Nonsense.
You hold out hope that an obvious scam may not be what it obviously is.  I respect that you want to hold out that hope.  I respect that you are willing to let this play out for a long time.  However, there is no reason to to get snippy with other people who see the facts as they are, have accurately predicted what has unfolded and continue to accurately predict what will unfold.  Recognizing a scam for what it is does not create the scam.  It does not suppress inventions that work. It does not prevent honest investigators from looking into unlikely things.  It exposes crooks who prey on people's hopes for something good.  I submit to you that policing out scammers is an important activity that helps prevent honest investigators from being associated with crooks.



ramset

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #514 on: November 25, 2014, 08:07:56 PM »
TK
to be clear
we are only discussing claims which have allowed access to the Group ,and how they will be treated HERE at this forum.


@ Mark E is correct this discussion does not belong here.


I did send you a PM
thx
Chet



FatBird

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #515 on: November 25, 2014, 09:55:51 PM »
An APPROXIMATE Block Diagram of his unit.


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« Last Edit: November 26, 2014, 01:43:41 AM by FatBird »

TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #516 on: November 25, 2014, 11:02:01 PM »
No, your diagram does not correspond to the unit displayed in Potter's YT video.

In that video, a Pelton-wheel/outrunner alternator combo is shown in and outside the water tank. It is not connected by a belt to anything, and it is not even turning when Potter is demonstrating the unit "running".  The belt drive system appears to be a motor driving a small generator, separate from the Pelton wheel and its attached outrunner alternator. Or it could be a water pump that is driven by the belt, but it certainly isn't pumping water onto the Pelton wheel during that demonstration.




TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #517 on: November 25, 2014, 11:07:49 PM »
TK
to be clear
we are only discussing claims which have allowed access to the Group ,and how they will be treated HERE at this forum.


@ Mark E is correct this discussion does not belong here.


I did send you a PM
thx
Chet

If it doesn't belong here why do we keep talking about it here?
Sure, you are talking about devices that have been presented to the group for testing. But aren't we in a Red Queen's "jam tomorrow" kind of situation with the GDS system? Being promised that you will be able to test something at some rubber date in the flex-future is not the same thing as someone showing up on your doorstep today saying "Here you go, test one of my about ten Free Energy machines, have at it!"

Paul-R

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #518 on: November 26, 2014, 04:47:43 PM »
An APPROXIMATE Block Diagram of his unit.


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Very nice graphic, FB. But how can this device not run at an efficiency of about 30% ?

Nink

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #519 on: November 27, 2014, 02:31:22 AM »
Well I said I wouldn't post unless something changed.   Something changed GDStechnologies.ca no longer even mentions water powered generator.... Just says "coming soon". http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/


MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #520 on: November 27, 2014, 02:39:59 AM »
Well I said I wouldn't post unless something changed.   Something changed GDStechnologies.ca no longer even mentions water powered generator.... Just says "coming soon". http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/

Nink,

Good checking and no surprise there, we have all seen it before.  Perhaps the Oshawa Police anti-fraud group paid them a visit?  Every now and then I check Google News to see if the police have put out a press release stating that they busted GDS Technologies.

The vibe I get from the guy in the video and the use of language on their websites is that we are dealing with one or more people that dropped out of school in grade 8 and they have been hustlers in one form or other for the rest of their lives.

MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #521 on: November 27, 2014, 02:58:52 AM »
Maybe they will turn up in Morocco?

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #522 on: November 27, 2014, 04:28:43 AM »
Now now, let's not be hasty. After all, the video is still up, as of this evening.

And Happy Thanksgiving, tomorrow, for all the USA residents out there!

Eat food, not too much, mostly plants. (Michael Pollan)

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #523 on: November 27, 2014, 05:31:57 PM »
FatBird,

That is one of my prototype drawings,, we went through many different designs at least 15.
http://www.google.com/patents/US20070018461

I know everyone is hoping for Mr. Potters water generator to be successful,,
I looked over his design very carefully,there is nothing inside his set up that I already have completed and tested in one of our prototypes.that will only last for about 20 min.

Sorry!!! From my experience in this field years of testing it does not last.

Potter documentation dates will be prolonged as long as he can.

James

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #524 on: November 27, 2014, 05:47:42 PM »
Now now, let's not be hasty. After all, the video is still up, as of this evening.

And Happy Thanksgiving, tomorrow, for all the USA residents out there!

Eat food, not too much, mostly plants. (Michael Pollan)


You are absolutely right @TinselKoala, It is not as if they moved the operations back to Mexico and are now selling drawings and plans to build your own generator for $565 bank transfer only.   Now if he starts accepting Bitcoin ....

http://gdsenergy.mx/  via google translate

GDS Technologies LTD. He offers to sell this technology but was rejected. We already have separate generator and started the drawings and measures to put together in this instrucional video on demand. This video will be accessible in GDS Technologies LTD. Webside with security code to view all those who purchase the security code.
The fee is $ 565.00 USD INCLUDING TAXES,