Good points Ramset.

If I were in charge of this site, I would Permanently DISBAR the Trolls & Nay Sayers in a New York Minute!!!!
There are a few here that have NEVER, EVER contributed anything positive!!
They are nothing but a NEGATIVE DRAIN on innovative positive ideas!!
                                                                                                                                   .

Chet, honestly look into the box and what do you see?

Look at the box when it is operating and what do you see?

Do you see any reason to believe that water which is not a fuel could power anything? 

Do you see anything in the demonstration or the wiring in the box that suggests that the big lead acid battery wired directly to the DC-AC inverter is not the source of electrical power output by the box?

Set your expectations appropriately.

Here is an older version GDS 5000 no gas no diesel uses water ( i think that what it says)

http://web.archive.org/web/20140519214913/http://gdsenergy.mx/data1/images/generador-2.jpg

Now compare that to a photoshopped gp 5500
http://www.harry-the-electrician.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/portable_GP_5500_back_handles_down__73327_zoom.jpg

It gets even funnier.  Even earlier than that May 2014 capture the wayback capture from January 2014 has them announcing after three years of R&D their water fueled generator.  I wonder when they started trying to take money for these in Mexico.

Enjoy the metamorphosis:

Good points Ramset.

If I were in charge of this site, I would Permanently DISBAR the Trolls & Nay Sayers in a New York Minute!!!!
There are a few here that have NEVER, EVER contributed anything positive!!
They are nothing but a NEGATIVE DRAIN on innovative positive ideas!!
                                                                                                                                   .

Burn the books, execute all the scientists that the way to proceed. Lets turn energy research  into a faith where it belongs.
So go to Sterling's site they censor everything there and look at how many QmoGens they now have running.
But the scams still continue lol,
I vote for Fatbird as our fearless leader and to have the authority to censor anyone who dare suggests anything against unsupported claims.
Yeehaaa
Mark

Chet, the problem seems to be that some people have more sensitive "bs detectors" than others. When someone comes along with an assembly of commercial off-the-shelf parts and makes extraordinary and not well supported or explained claims for the performance of this assembly... and appears to be following nearly the exact script that we have seen so many times before instead of doing it "right"... the bells and whistles start to ring loud and clear. For some people.

In the case of some claim like the present one... heck,  he could do a lot worse than just shipping off to you ( or Mark D, or me, or even Sterling) one of the "about ten" items that he already has built. It would cost a lot less than round-trip airfare to his location and you could test it to your heart's content, and nobody would worry about him cheating in some way, because we trust you (or Mark D, etc) to do a good and thorough and unrushed job of testing.
He could show us the scientific papers published on his break through technology. He could show us the electric bills from his house and factory! Or some photos of the assembly line. Or even a testimonial from someone who already has one of the ones he was selling in Mexico.

But instead what he shows is the same-old-same-old thing, following the Chuck Pierce script with only minor deviations. (He hasn't started insulting his critics yet.) 

I sincerely hope you do get to go see him and examine his devices, see his factory, test his claims. But this isn't in the script! The script says that he will postpone your visit, or that the device will break down just before you arrive and won't be fixed until after you leave.

If I had such a device... or ten of them... I'd be more than happy to send one off to you, MarkD, and anyone else qualified and willing to sign my NDA. But if I already had patent protection why even bother with an NDA? Unbox it, follow the easy-to-read bilingual instructions, and then test away, take it apart, do your damnedest to prove me wrong in my claims. If you can, then we are all better off. If you can't... then I am instantly rich beyond my wildest dreams, for a little while before the entire world economy collapses.

Don't be too critical of the critics, Chet... we haven't been wrong yet, as far as I can tell, and we gain nothing from being right. But, for example, Sterling... has been wrong over and over and over again, but people still send him money for his "testing" vacations to places like South Africa and Greece, etc. What is wrong with this picture?

Tinsel
So you feel my BS meter needs Calibration ,Nah it just came back from the shop
they are however taking forever with My Crystal ball.


Some fellows here act like they are babysitting a room full of wealthy  imbeciles with Dementia.


getting WAAAAY to personal with the Job at hand and how it reflects on THEM.

{below isNot addressed to Tinsel}


here I feel like I'm babysitting a room full of Egomaniacs that are too immature to just do the Job at hand ,the job which is handed to them on a silver platter.


And "THEY" don't even have to do a thing ..
just eat when the meal is ready , a nice healthy portion or if it turns out
they can serve Crow....


Nahh they are completely intent on destroying the opportunity because it is "Beneath" them
and their ilk.
then of course they will get what they want and save face....[just by some remote chance they really don't know everything there is to know about everything that's ever happened or will ever happen on Planet earth ,and maybe a few other nearby celestial bodies.]


Then they can turn on the news and slap themselves on the back ,whist complaining about the "way its done"


Egomaniacal monday morning quarterbacks in silly superheroe costumes saving wealthy Demented imbeciles from themselves.


Sigh.............


You fellows want to change the way things are done..
be that change.


here we have a chance for input on the process and all some  seem able to do is write forty pages of Horsepoop and then offer an olive branch


talk about dementia ??


is this an overunity Forum??
are you _experts_ trying to be part of the vetting Process or are you putting on disguises when you leave the building so nobody knows you visit here.


are you ashamed of what we do here?


well I suppose if Nothing Changes here [vetting protocol]
nothing will....


One definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results.


are you Guys Nuts??


Chet

MH
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Nothing is stopping the demo process from going forward.  New information can generate chatter.


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see the thread at OU.Com from an inventors perspective , or better yet


from your own perspective as an inventor [make believe ]


your kidding right??


if you guys ran around with cans of gasoline and matches whilst peeing and pooping on the table this could not be less inviting to an inventor...


you don't live by the do onto others as you would have done onto you rule...


you live by the Do onto others before they can do onto you rule...


how about we try to fix this,  and you Dementia "police" try to play along??
I am out of time today


maybe this can be a line in the sand
A bench mark to move forward from


respectfully
Chet

In the near future There will be several other technologies being brought to this level [ready for testing]


How to proceed here [in this forum ]


can you elect a representative from your group??


or at least a spokesperson??


can there be a "CODE OF CONDUCT"
maybe a poll of the membership??


ideas?


Thx
Chet
PS
I must add,the MO for investigation here has had a most intimidating and detrimental influence on would be contributors to this forum.[inventors]


lets change that...?