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MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #270 on: November 02, 2014, 12:10:19 AM »
Wow, you guys did some amazing digging on this creep.  He stinks to high heaven.  The chances of seeing some magic boxes on December 15th was zero, and with this new information, it's an even firmer zero.  We have found a "Jian Ghomeshi" of the Canadian free energy scene.

Sterling, Stuart, Chet, are you listening?

Greg Potter, are you listening?

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #271 on: November 02, 2014, 12:32:29 AM »
Well, as long as the guy doesn't turn out to be connected or affiliated with Stevious HAARPer, former ala Jimmy Savile BBC presenter or any of the pedo popes, there still remains a faint ray of Hope...sans Girl that is.

Regards...

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #272 on: November 02, 2014, 12:38:56 AM »
Hi All,

I have been saying this from the start, you can fool people sometime, but not those that question everything

Tom.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #273 on: November 02, 2014, 06:04:13 AM »
Now it's starting to make sense. Where in Ontario will you find an open poolhouse with a thatched roof, hanging baskets full of tropical plants? There is no way this video was made in Canada.


MileHigh

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #274 on: November 02, 2014, 01:12:55 PM »
The sad thing is that all of this information that has been dug up will likely be ignored by Sterling.  That means that Sterling facilitates the operation of what is allegedly a criminal organization.  Everything points in that direction.  Chances are in a few months he will have simply forgotten this episode and he will be embracing another criminal operation that displays the same M.O.

There seems to be very little accountability by Sterling for all of the schemes that haven't panned out.  South Africa anyone?  You wonder if those South Africans are still trying to pitch their "QMoGen" or if they have disappeared completely.

Now, if this thread prevented five people from putting a down payment on a 5-kilowatt fake generator then that's $12,500 that could be better spent elsewhere.  Like buying some books and clothes for your children, as an example.

Some people may think it's "crazy" to make a call on this before December 15th.  Well, just watch this space and see what happens.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #275 on: November 02, 2014, 01:42:06 PM »
The sad thing is that all of this information that has been dug up will likely be ignored by Sterling.  That means that Sterling facilitates the operation of what is allegedly a criminal organization.  Everything points in that direction.  Chances are in a few months he will have simply forgotten this episode and he will be embracing another criminal operation that displays the same M.O.

There seems to be very little accountability by Sterling for all of the schemes that haven't panned out.  South Africa anyone?  You wonder if those South Africans are still trying to pitch their "QMoGen" or if they have disappeared completely.

Now, if this thread prevented five people from putting a down payment on a 5-kilowatt fake generator then that's $12,500 that could be better spent elsewhere.  Like buying some books and clothes for your children, as an example.

Some people may think it's "crazy" to make a call on this before December 15th.  Well, just watch this space and see what happens.
Sterling being a self claimed religious man seems at odd's with his religion -->lead us not into temptation :o
Seems to me he is quite easly led up the garden path that has $$$$ signs at the end.It would not be in Sterlings best interest for the truth to come out too quickly,as the chance of making a buck would deminish quite rapidly ;)

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #276 on: November 02, 2014, 02:30:14 PM »
I have not been able to follow all the collected information here regarding Mr. Potter
 nor how you fellows qualify these things and take them as facts?


I am in the middle of a Medical Issue which is weighing heavy at the moment,


can someone summarize the more credible "accusations" and I will Call Mr.Potter tomorrow.


thx
Chet










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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #277 on: November 02, 2014, 03:48:21 PM »
Honestly I am personally not accusing Potter of anything.  He has never stated overunity, He has stated his engine runs on water but I don't know if he has specifically stated "the water inside the generator is the only fuel source".  I think we have been exploring all possibilities and principles that his generator could use to only "run on water" and have quickly ruled these out. Based on the components we have been able to identify inside his "generator" he appears to be only consuming energy not creating it. 
If Mr Potter does come back and says he has invented cold fusion,  we are able to validate his claim and he manages to obtain world wide patents before full public disclosure, please ask him to give me a call as I would be happy to help negotiate a 9 digit figure.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #278 on: November 02, 2014, 04:25:58 PM »
Honestly I am personally not accusing Potter of anything.  He has never stated overunity, He has stated his engine runs on water but I don't know if he has specifically stated "the water inside the generator is the only fuel source".  I think we have been exploring all possibilities and principles that his generator could use to only "run on water" and have quickly ruled these out. Based on the components we have been able to identify inside his "generator" he appears to be only consuming energy not creating it. 
If Mr Potter does come back and says he has invented cold fusion,  we are able to validate his claim and he manages to obtain world wide patents before full public disclosure, please ask him to give me a call as I would be happy to help negotiate a 9 digit figure.
He states that there is no other fuel source.  1:20 "Water goes in here, not fuel of any kind. ... This tank here four gallons should last three days."

The home page states:  "GDS is a manufacturing company in renewable energy. We have developed a portable water powered generator that creates a large amount of energy to run our portable generators that generate power simply by adding water. Spending money on expensive gasoline is a thing of the past. We have found a way to produce energy by adding clean tap water."

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #279 on: November 02, 2014, 04:30:45 PM »
I have not been able to follow all the collected information here regarding Mr. Potter
 nor how you fellows qualify these things and take them as facts?


I am in the middle of a Medical Issue which is weighing heavy at the moment,


can someone summarize the more credible "accusations" and I will Call Mr.Potter tomorrow.


thx
Chet
You can see from the video that the location where it was shot is in a place where one can have an open-air poolhouse with a thatched roof. Have you ever spent a winter in Ontario? I have. Please ask him where the video was made.
You can see from the video at the 5 minute mark that the Pelton wheel/PMA assembly is _not turning at all_ while the device is allegedly "running on water". Please ask Gregory Potter to explain this, and do not let him off the hook. It would be nice if you could record and publish the call, like Sterling did with his phone interview.
You can see from the links provided that a "Greg Potter" skipped out on building lease payment and employee payroll back in April of 2011. Please ask him to explain this. Was that a different Gregory Potter, a different GDS? Is that link a lie? Has he made good on what he owed people from that incident?
You can see from the links provided above that there is some "GDS" business in Villahermosa, Tabasco, Mexico claiming to have a ten million dollar turnover and oodles of employees, but their fax and voice phone numbers are the same number. What do you get when you call _that_ number, I wonder? And how does a big factory wind up with a "Unit 106" kind of maildrop address in a mostly residential area?
Ask him if he has successfully refunded the PayPal payments and any other money he might have gotten for "selling" this thing, and if he can provide any proof that he has done so.

Of course... all this presumes that you are even able to contact him at all. My bet is that you won't be able to, but I will be happy if you can prove me wrong on this one.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #280 on: November 02, 2014, 04:39:34 PM »
Tinsel
thanks for stepping up.
I will call Mexico Too.


Chet

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #281 on: November 02, 2014, 05:06:54 PM »
Hi All,

I believe I said the same thing a while back, why was the turbine not spinning...

You know I have better things to do then play with who is right or wrong, I said this was a scam from the start after I did some calculation.

I think some people just want to believe in free energy, that they over look the details of input verse output of energy.

I'm done, won't be adding another post on the forum!

Tom


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #282 on: November 02, 2014, 05:26:45 PM »
In addition to all that tinselkoala has pointed out, one might note a couple of other things in the video:

Potter's first word is:  "Hola".

The video has available Spanish subtitles that include his 3000 Watts per hour idiocy.



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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #283 on: November 02, 2014, 05:33:02 PM »
There are some more questions.

What is the process at play?  Since this alleged process would completely revolutionize the entire world energy scene, why is he trying to sell portable generators?  Aren't there bigger fish to fry, like working with government, science, and industry to develop commercial-scale electrical generating stations?

What is the alleged base (primary) output of the native free energy process?  We know that we can take mechanical energy to power a generator to generate electricity.  Sometimes we generate the mechanical energy with heat, for example like when we boil water to drive a steam turbine.  So is the base output of the process heat?  Is the base output of the process direct mechanical energy?  Is the base output of the process direct electrical energy?  Is the base output of the process direct chemical energy?  If the base output of the process is direct chemical energy, then what is the form of the chemical energy?  How does the base output of the alleged over unity process eventually become the generator output, what are the conventional steps taken to go from <free energy process output> to <electrical output>?

How does the base output of the alleged free energy system relate to the requirement for water?   If water is "consumed" in the process, what are the waste products after the water is consumed?

When will a proper demonstration of the device be shown that proves the stated specifications of the device?  Typically we expect a demonstration where at least 10 times the stored energy in all of the batteries is expended during the test.  How will this type of test be implemented?  How will it be demonstrated?  How long will it be demonstrated for?  How will the output be measured?  How will the water consumption of the device be measured?  What steps will be taken to make the demonstration as convincing as possible if you assume that one is operating under the constraints of generating a video clip or possibly doing a live streaming event?  Will there be independent third-party witnesses that can attend any kind of demonstration?  How will any possible witness verification of the alleged system be documented?

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #284 on: November 02, 2014, 07:38:05 PM »
He states that there is no other fuel source.  1:20 "Water goes in here, not fuel of any kind. ... This tank here four gallons should last three days."

The home page states:  "GDS is a manufacturing company in renewable energy. We have developed a portable water powered generator that creates a large amount of energy to run our portable generators that generate power simply by adding water. Spending money on expensive gasoline is a thing of the past. We have found a way to produce energy by adding clean tap water."

I have no doubt water goes in the water tank and not fuel in the water tank.    He keeps using that statement on facebook, website etc "We have developed a portable water powered generator that creates a large amount of energy to run our portable generators that generate power simply by adding water"   but what does that mean? 

I get the feeling the way it was actually originally designed to work was you connect a hose, the water hits the pelton wheel,  charges the battery and then when the battery is charged you can use the power in the battery to run some small devices for a short period of time. 

 Interesting concept and probably useful for supplementing power using mains pressure water.  You place the generator on the roof of your house and connect it to your house water supply ( think there must be an exit tap underneath the generator), you also connect your garden hose to the tap on the generator.  If you had an external tank on the roof as well that held several hundred litres of water it would work even better,   You turn the hose on fill the tank while spinning the pelton wheel and charging the batteries. There looks to be all the parts necessary to do this.   The tap has an auto shut off valve he mentions the one way check valve in the video on the tap.  Now the water tank is drained and filled again if you turn a tap on in the house, The pelton wheels will once again spin as the water enters the generator and leaves the generator and enters your house, again providing power to the batteries.

I think that was the original purpose an energy scavenger using mains pressure water.     It looks like it was then modified and a 12V DC motor was added to spin the permanent magnet generator and this is where I get a little confused....Why go 12V DC  to PMG to Inverter instead of battery direct to Inverter apart from some noise and watching stuff spin.