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Author Topic: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water  (Read 466942 times)

MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #180 on: October 29, 2014, 01:37:07 PM »
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 29, 2014, 01:33:36 PM
Bottom line.

Until the function of the black box is determined, every opinion posted here are simply speculation and conjecture.

Regards...
LOL, you are free to believe or profess what you like no matter how silly.  In the mean time:  Water still is not fuel, and GDS's claims remain false by default.
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TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #181 on: October 29, 2014, 02:14:45 PM »
I noticed in the video that he has a "Pool Rules" poster of some kind on the wall and that the room itself isn't exactly a residential room. I wonder if he's in his pool-house, with a big swimming pool nearby.
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poynt99

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #182 on: October 29, 2014, 02:41:10 PM »
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 29, 2014, 01:33:36 PM
Bottom line.

Until the function of the black box is determined, every opinion posted here are simply speculation and conjecture.

Regards...
If you are referring to the box with "25" marked on it, it appears to me that it contains the timer, AC power distribution outlets, and breaker etc.
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TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #183 on: October 29, 2014, 03:05:28 PM »
Quote from: poynt99 on October 29, 2014, 02:41:10 PM
If you are referring to the box with "25" marked on it, it appears to me that it contains the timer, AC power distribution outlets, and breaker etc.

Ripped directly out of the commercial gas or diesel genset where he got the frame. When I load the R-G article page scripts enabled I see an advert from Amazon for a commercial genset with the same frame and power distribution unit, even more similar than the one posted by tinman a few pages ago.

Now, look at the AliBaba links:

http://m.alibaba.com/product/50002273662/Portable_water_generator_runs_on_water_/productdetail.html
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Portable-water-generator-runs-on-water-_50002273662.html

Now they really do appear to be gone! Sanitized!

By the way, gotoluc found the exact PMA and Pelton turbine (yes, they are called turbines sometimes) on Ebay, and posted a link to the complete assembly some pages back. The Pelton wheel is also available separately.
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=Pelton+wheel&_sacat=0
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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #184 on: October 29, 2014, 03:39:44 PM »
I figured it out, there is an electric eel in the water tank and two hamster wheels in the tires. 

Seriously though apart from a fusion reaction (Oshawa is near the Pickering nuclear power plant :-),  and this idea is really far fetched, but perhaps a generator could use some type of water/ algae based bio fuel.  Generates a bio gas that is fed into the motor and uses the pelton wheel to keep the algae and water mixed.  He could make that claim and say his bio fuel generator is hidden inside a hollowed out battery in order to hide his invention until his patent application is processed bythe USPTO and Canadian patent office.

Yeah I know I am making stuff up and I really think like everyone else this is just another battery in a box.
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MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #185 on: October 29, 2014, 03:56:55 PM »
Quote from: Nink on October 29, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
I figured it out, there is an electric eel in the water tank and two hamster wheels in the tires. 

Seriously though apart from a fusion reaction (Oshawa is near the Pickering nuclear power plant :-),  and this idea is really far fetched, but perhaps a generator could use some type of water/ algae based bio fuel.  Generates a bio gas that is fed into the motor and uses the pelton wheel to keep the algae and water mixed.  He could make that claim and say his bio fuel generator is hidden inside a hollowed out battery in order to hide his invention until his patent application is processed bythe USPTO and Canadian patent office.

Yeah I know I am making stuff up and I really think like everyone else this is just another battery in a box.
The problem is scale.  You need enough mutant atomic algae and rabid hamsters to generate 15kW = ~20hp.
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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #186 on: October 29, 2014, 04:29:59 PM »
@tinselkoala oh well if it was a real breakthru or real fraud we'l never know now thanks to your crusades.the inventor is very stupid anyway if it is a breakthru improvement because he shouldv thort about the attention that it would bring from o.u. websites and the crusades that come along with such attention.he shouldve just called it a 'super gen runs long time' and shutup about the water promo
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MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #187 on: October 29, 2014, 05:06:36 PM »
Quote from: profitis on October 29, 2014, 04:29:59 PM
@tinselkoala oh well if it was a real breakthru or real fraud we'l never know now thanks to your crusades.the inventor is very stupid anyway if it is a breakthru improvement because he shouldv thort about the attention that it would bring from o.u. websites and the crusades that come along with such attention.he shouldve just called it a 'super gen runs long time' and shutup about the water promo
Those with the ability to observe recognize this device as just yet another in a long string of battery in a box magic generator claims.
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Paul-R

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #188 on: October 29, 2014, 05:14:03 PM »
There is said to be patent application. I  can find nothing in  the Canadian office mentioning Greg Potter, GDS or  GDS Technologies.

Here's the link  in case others may succeed:

http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/search/advanced.html
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MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #189 on: October 29, 2014, 05:35:31 PM »
Quote from: Paul-R on October 29, 2014, 05:14:03 PM
There is said to be patent application. I  can find nothing in  the Canadian office mentioning Greg Potter, GDS or  GDS Technologies.

Here's the link  in case others may succeed:

http://brevets-patents.ic.gc.ca/opic-cipo/cpd/eng/search/advanced.html
Three points:

1. Patent applications do not publish immediately.
2. An application would only state how the inventor claims the device works.
3. Applications that describe non-operable machines like this one routinely get rejected for lack of utility.
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Paul-R

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #190 on: October 29, 2014, 06:11:14 PM »
Quote from: MarkE on October 29, 2014, 05:35:31 PM
Three points:

1. Patent applications do not publish immediately.
2. An application would only state how the inventor claims the device works.
3. Applications that describe non-operable machines like this one routinely get rejected for lack of utility.
1.Good point.

2. The applicant must describe what he or she wishes to claim

3. The USPTO is stuffed full of ordure. He will get past this easily, good or bad.
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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #191 on: October 29, 2014, 06:20:15 PM »
Quote from: TinselKoala on October 28, 2014, 04:21:22 AM
All these running prototypes! We are still shellshocked by the QEG "running prototype" claimed by Naima Feagin, Valerie Feagin and James Robitaille over a year ago and as recently as last April. That running prototype that didn't really run itself as claimed, at all. And Alek's running prototype of his scooter. And Steorn's running prototype. And.... well, some of us have longer memories than others. We've seen dozens of people who had "running prototypes" of one kind or another that didn't actually run, even though their makers might have believed that they were only "seconds away" from running.


Case in point:  Nathren Armour's watercar claim that I busted wide open a few years back.  Told me he had a running prototype.  Watch this to see his definition of "running"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHn5gTtLGkc&list=UUFIepgJGHPNvEpsj6q8rLmw

My advice - be hopeful but temper that hope with common sense and instinct.
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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #192 on: October 29, 2014, 06:30:13 PM »
Quote from: poynt99 on October 29, 2014, 02:41:10 PM
If you are referring to the box with "25" marked on it, it appears to me that it contains the timer, AC power distribution outlets, and breaker etc.


Thank you Poynt, a serious answer...finally.

I checked the pics, and that indeed seems to be the case.

While looking, I also noticed a metal looking box in behind the black box...does anyone recognize it ?

Another unanswered question.

Even so, any of the visible components may have been modified.

We are still in the dark until a device is closely examined...and I'm not about to speculate with so many factors yet unexplored.

Regards...


 
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MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #193 on: October 29, 2014, 06:54:17 PM »
Quote from: Paul-R on October 29, 2014, 06:11:14 PM
1.Good point.

2. The applicant must describe what he or she wishes to claim
That is true.  However the specification must enable the claims by describing in such a way that a person of ordinary skill in the art may practice the claims without undue experimentation.  When the specification makes claims that the examiner recognizes as violating physical laws, then the applicant must overcome the examiner's objections with appropriate evidence.
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3. The USPTO is stuffed full of ordure. He will get past this easily, good or bad.
Many junk applications get through it is true.  Claims for a water powered engine are very unlikely to do so.
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MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #194 on: October 29, 2014, 06:56:26 PM »
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on October 29, 2014, 06:30:13 PM

Thank you Poynt, a serious answer...finally.

I checked the pics, and that indeed seems to be the case.

While looking, I also noticed a metal looking box in behind the black box...does anyone recognize it ?

Another unanswered question.

Even so, any of the visible components may have been modified.

We are still in the dark until a device is closely examined...and I'm not about to speculate with so many factors yet unexplored.

Regards...
Your doubts are off in left field.  No black box that does not have its own power source changes water into fuel.
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