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Author Topic: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water  (Read 355075 times)

Offline gyulasun

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #840 on: November 15, 2015, 06:31:18 PM »
How and where is that ultra high frequency generated? How high is it?
Are the links in English?

Hey memoryman,

From one of the links given above by member l0stf0x, when translated by the link's online translator, it turns out that the device 'consumes' i.e. uses up a certain metal while operating in the GHz range.

This sounds as the Meyer Mace device in which the iron rod is also said to be consumed when it transmutes.

And an estimation is given how the cost of the material for a given output power compares to the cost of same power taken from utility company (in Greece).

Translated text from Greek to English from the link I mention above: http://tinyurl.com/nmr2xhu 

"Suppose that the metal used in a power device (for 1 kw output) worth of 7-8 euro and lasts one month. For a house we need twice as effective, ie two power devices, so two for 8 euros equals 16 euros per month, so for two months will spend two times 16 equals 32 euros. The reasoning is that the mistake of identification of kw power plant with the consumption unit kWh. As in any home we have continuous consumption 24 hours a day of installed capacity, the correct calculation of these same data is that we pay 32 euros for consumption of 2880 Kwh  (1 kwh for 2 devices for 24 hours for 60 days),  so the cost of electricity produced by this technology is 0,011 euros per kwh, when the PPC (utility provider) charge ten times (0.102 per kwh)".

In this video, also given by member l0stf0x, you can read a test report in English from time 18:56    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDJh2j-Skds

In the same video the inventor shows probably the "heart" of his device when he add water to the container, watch from 32:14

and at 36:40 he shows the metal sheets which are probably the ones that are consumed... I guess.

At 38.35 the metal covers are removed from the sidewalls of the water container. I picked a picture of the printed circuit board, it looks indeed like as a microwave circuit. I wonder where the power comes from to operate that circuit? He adds water to the container and electricity appears at the output:  is the water also used as a kind of (low power) galvanic cell with different metals and is able to run the microwave circuit which then does something to the metal (say transmutes it) ??

More info is needed of course, with more observations.

Gyula

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #840 on: November 15, 2015, 06:31:18 PM »

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #841 on: November 15, 2015, 10:57:22 PM »
With respect to the return policy, the product did not meet its published specs initially and throughout the warranty period; It's defective. It was supposed to do what was advertised at the time of sale (5kW for 4hrs every 24hrs). Options would be repair/replace/refund or something else agreeable to the buyer. Anything else has gotta be breach of contract/false advertising.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #842 on: November 16, 2015, 02:28:12 AM »
gyulasun, thank you.
Wish I could understand what they are saying...
The English translated parts don't really help much.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #843 on: November 16, 2015, 06:02:57 AM »
Hey memoryman,

From one of the links given above by member l0stf0x, when translated by the link's online translator, it turns out that the device 'consumes' i.e. uses up a certain metal while operating in the GHz range.

This sounds as the Meyer Mace device in which the iron rod is also said to be consumed when it transmutes.

And an estimation is given how the cost of the material for a given output power compares to the cost of same power taken from utility company (in Greece).

Translated text from Greek to English from the link I mention above: http://tinyurl.com/nmr2xhu 

"Suppose that the metal used in a power device (for 1 kw output) worth of 7-8 euro and lasts one month. For a house we need twice as effective, ie two power devices, so two for 8 euros equals 16 euros per month, so for two months will spend two times 16 equals 32 euros. The reasoning is that the mistake of identification of kw power plant with the consumption unit kWh. As in any home we have continuous consumption 24 hours a day of installed capacity, the correct calculation of these same data is that we pay 32 euros for consumption of 2880 Kwh  (1 kwh for 2 devices for 24 hours for 60 days),  so the cost of electricity produced by this technology is 0,011 euros per kwh, when the PPC (utility provider) charge ten times (0.102 per kwh)".

In this video, also given by member l0stf0x, you can read a test report in English from time 18:56    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDJh2j-Skds

In the same video the inventor shows probably the "heart" of his device when he add water to the container, watch from 32:14

and at 36:40 he shows the metal sheets which are probably the ones that are consumed... I guess.

At 38.35 the metal covers are removed from the sidewalls of the water container. I picked a picture of the printed circuit board, it looks indeed like as a microwave circuit. I wonder where the power comes from to operate that circuit? He adds water to the container and electricity appears at the output:  is the water also used as a kind of (low power) galvanic cell with different metals and is able to run the microwave circuit which then does something to the metal (say transmutes it) ??

More info is needed of course, with more observations.

Gyula

thankyou for sharing and your efforts to help understand through translation. so, disolving metal additives it could be then. interesting.

still the marketers at gds are not being all that on the level when considering their version of how a warranty should work,
if the device worked exactly as they claim, not only customers with broken contraptions would be wanting their the expensive investment to be well covered against anything for a reasonable amount of time.

and gds chosing certain channels to market their product release also is enough to make anyone who does not stand to receive a reward or affiliated payment, might want to wait and see, as if there hasn't been enough waiting already for them to be granted CSA and UL standard approvals being an electrical device built and sold in canada that it only makes sense they would need to have unless gifting them away (for 5 grand us dollars cash) from a minivan touring various parkinglots like a garbage speaker merchant from the late 80's.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #844 on: November 16, 2015, 11:57:40 AM »
A hypothetical is that the GDS guy simply paid the commercial real estate agent $1000 cash for the privilege of putting up his logo on the small sign outside the huge industrial building in Oshawa.  In other words, the sign outside the building could be meaningless and when a real tenant moves in the GDS sign will be taken down.  You can call it sign spoofing.

If you plan on building "50,000 per month" by the end of Q1 2016, how come they are not hiring full staff for a GIANT FACTORY?

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #845 on: November 16, 2015, 04:38:06 PM »
With respect to the return policy, the product did not meet its published specs


It was supposed to do what was advertised at the time of sale (5kW for 4hrs every 24hrs)


So I guess it all comes down to what Greg is promising.

I cannot find any "published" specs, so let's look at the wording on the website


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How does it work?

When you receive your new backup portable renewable generator just add 4 gallons of normal water in the tank and turn the red toggle switch to on position (emergency safety) that will start the battery, pump and turbine all at once, it's that easy. All units will be tested before leaving our facility.

Instruction and warranty manuals will be supplied with every unit sold.


So he tells us that "turning it on" starts the battery.

And I am sure that when you receive your unit, the instruction manual promised will say that after 4 hours,
the unit will need to be plugged into the grid for about 20 hours to recharge the previously mentioned battery.

Water needs to be added periodically to account for evaporation.
In the manual you will learn that the purpose of the water is to weigh the unit down to stop it from blowing away in strong winds.

After all, two other important features that he pushes are :
Fold down locking handle for sturdy portability and compact storage.
Heavy duty never flat wheels for reliability portability.

So you would want this thing to feel heavy right ?


In all fairness to Greg, he is no longer saying that this unit will run for 4 hours on purely water alone.
The fact that it runs "pollution free" and can be used indoors might get some people believing that water is the fuel.
But it is not stated as such anywhere on his website currently.



Unfortunately for Greg however,
his earlier youtube video is still out there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEqSuTOKUEg titled Portable Generator Runs on Water!!
and in the comments :
We have developed a portable water powered generator that creates a large amount of energy to run our portable generators that generate power simply by adding water. Spending money on expensive gasoline is a thing of the past. We have found a way to produce energy by adding clean tap water.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #846 on: November 16, 2015, 04:53:19 PM »
If you plan on building "50,000 per month" by the end of Q1 2016, how come they are not hiring full staff for a GIANT FACTORY?

I am sorry to say this MH, but I think you are losing it.


Don't you remember about 6 months ago he was hiring "models" to work for GDS tech.

The kijiji ad has long gone, but still documented at
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Free_Energy_Blog:2015:07:20#GDS_Technologies_looking_for_models_to_promote_their_product


Looking for Model/Promotional Staff
Date Listed: 17-Jul-15
Address: 999 Boundary Road, Whitby, ON L1N 7G4
Job Offered By: Individual
Company: GDS Technologies Ltd
Job Type: Full-Time

We are looking for females between the ages of 22 - 35yrs old for Promotional and Modelling work. There will be some travel within Canada. Candidate must be reliable, punctual and flexible. Please apply with full length picture and your resume. Marketing experience will be a plus. We are located in Oshawa and looking to market and promote our new product coming out soon. : Please submit picture and resume to sales@gdstechnologies.ca
Only qualifies applicants will be contacted.



I can't say I blame the guy.
Who would not want to own a business where scantily clad babes push the buttons to operate the robot factory ?


Obviously, I am making a big assumption that it is a "robot factory",
but it fits the mold compared to all the other 1/2 million units a year free energy claimants


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #847 on: November 17, 2015, 08:01:34 PM »
I see on the latest GDS 5000 model they say they use permanent magnet generator http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/SpecSheet/GDS5000.pdf

Also I see there is a 15,000 Watt model now  that will run for 8760 hours over 2 years (that is every hour of every day for 365 days).  They say they will also build a 50,000 watt model.   http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/SpecSheet/GDS15000.pdf

As usual pay 50% up front. 


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #848 on: November 17, 2015, 10:47:46 PM »
Nice find, Nink, but 8760 hours is 2 two years at 50% duty, not 100%. Still, its 3x what he's pushing now.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #849 on: November 18, 2015, 12:19:12 AM »
Nice find, Nink, but 8760 hours is 2 two years at 50% duty, not 100%. Still, its 3x what he's pushing now.

Nowhere in ANY of Potters documentation does it say it will run for 8760 hours.
Just that it is warrantied for 8760 hours or two years whichever comes soonest.


If you are not satisfied with your unit, within the first 15 days you may return it for a full refund (provided it is clean and WORKING of course).
After 15 days you can get a replacement for up to two years (at your shipping cost of course).
How many times do you want to pay to have one shipped back and forth until you finally get one that does WORK ?


And remember, Greggy boy does say "GDS is not responsible when leaving our facility".
So if it doesn't WORK after it has left the loading dock, it must be the shipping companys fault or yours.


Understand the documentation at your own risk.


I would gladly buy a 15KW generator that ran for at least 8760 hours without requiring fuel or recharging.
That amount of power is worth about 19,700 bucks where I live (at 15 cents a KWh).

But nowhere is that currently promised.

Pete

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #850 on: November 30, 2015, 01:16:45 PM »
Now their website says:

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We are now in our manufacturing phase and our product will be available mid 2016.

The goalposts have moved again.  It's a sleazy con to get down-payment money from gullible people.

On PESN somebody drove by and verified that the sign was really there outside that presumably vacant giant distribution center.  I wish that they would drive by again and actually see if there are offices and a factory undergoing setup there.  The most likely scenario is that there is nothing there except for the sign itself.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #851 on: November 30, 2015, 05:19:40 PM »
I have a customer down the road so I took a quick drive past this morning.  3 cars in the car park at 9:30am Monday morning.  Looks like they have the office at the front about 2000 square feet and there is a loading dock around the side maybe 5000-10000 square feet.  There was a sign that said visitors enter at front office and another that said shipping and receiving around the side. The rest of the building the long row of loading docks out front appeared to be vacant and was blocked off with concrete blocks and a no trespass sign. I did not see a for lease sign out front though . I didn't stop or knock on the door or drive around the back (there is a road that circles the building). 


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #852 on: December 01, 2015, 01:52:41 AM »
Nink:

Thank you very much for doing that.  As you well know, the number of cars in the parking lot is very telling.  If I can ask a favour of you, it would be to do a simple "car check" again in two or three months.  We can compare the number of cars in the parking lot against the "Big Fish Story" about a huge production operation with a capacity to manufacture 50,000 units per month.

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« Reply #853 on: December 02, 2015, 04:50:19 AM »
Nink:

Thank you very much for doing that.  As you well know, the number of cars in the parking lot is very telling.  If I can ask a favour of you, it would be to do a simple "car check" again in two or three months.  We can compare the number of cars in the parking lot against the "Big Fish Story" about a huge production operation with a capacity to manufacture 50,000 units per month.

MileHigh

Hey, 3 people can easily build and ship 50,000 units/month.  One person answers the phone and take orders. (money)  One person builds the units and inspects them.  The last person loads them onto the trucks at the loading dock.  Don't forget, they will have a lot of automated equipment at this new site because they will not have to ever worry about paying an electric bill once they build the first few units...right?  I mean, they can use them for free energy and then...run as much stuff as they need.  Right?  It would be cool to see a power bill from this place in a few months, ha ha.

Bill

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« Reply #854 on: December 02, 2015, 05:02:58 AM »
Hey, 3 people can easily build and ship 50,000 units/month.  One person answers the phone and take orders. (money)  One person builds the units and inspects them.  The last person loads them onto the trucks at the loading dock.  Don't forget, they will have a lot of automated equipment at this new site because they will not have to ever worry about paying an electric bill once they build the first few units...right?  I mean, they can use them for free energy and then...run as much stuff as they need.  Right?  It would be cool to see a power bill from this place in a few months, ha ha.

Bill

Just think, after one year, that's 600,000 generators.  Since they produce energy out of nothing more than bottled water, and the energy they produce always becomes heat in the end, they are going to be making a contribution to global warming that will rival the tar sands.  After 10 years, they will make a contribution to global warming that will rival all of the cow off-gassing.  The only solution will be to nuke the cows.

 

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