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memoryman

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #810 on: November 03, 2015, 12:09:49 AM »
I take to mean that no SPECIFIC recharging protocol is needed; rather since the unit (it's just a back-up generator) is connected to the grid, it will automatically recharge. It's telling that the maximum run time is 4 hours.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #811 on: November 03, 2015, 01:39:55 AM »
Thanks, MileHigh, I did just that and received this whopper of an answer:

"No there is no recharging needed.  Sorry about that  😊

Greg"
Is that a double negative?

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #812 on: November 03, 2015, 07:00:18 AM »
memoryman, he doesn't ever mention connecting it to the grid, so the implication is that the unit will deliver 20kWh daily at the sole cost of a few gallons of H2O. I can't really understand how this jives with his  previous statement "...it is impossible to create energy out of 4 gallons of water."

markdansie

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #813 on: November 03, 2015, 12:54:50 PM »
Sterling is heading there to verify the technology. Should be a barrel of laughs like the German trick.
Mark

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #814 on: November 03, 2015, 02:58:36 PM »
I think that Stuart should go with his FLIR camera.
This is a BACK-UP generator for emergency use, NOT a primary source.

I sent an email:
Hello. I just read about your generator on PESN, and would love to see your product in action. As my company is located in Guelph, it is easy to arrange a visit.
Our interest is in becoming a dealer/distributor in certain areas.
For now, we can communicate this way, although my company XXXXXXX is available for verification.
thank you.

Reply:
Good Morning Bill,
Thank you for your email.
At this time we are not yet looking for dealers/distributors as that may be something we may look at in the near future. We are just starting our setup of manufacturing so this is where we are focused right now. 
Regards,
Greg

My next email:
Thank you for your prompt.response.
You indicate on your website that the product can be seen in Oshawa. When can that be arranged?
Bill

The reply:
f you check our website in late November early December we hope to be in full production mode and then we will begin demonstrations of the generator. Until then please be patient.
Have a great day.


db_pdx

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #815 on: November 03, 2015, 11:50:52 PM »
Late Nov or early Dec? Hmm, did someone make his announcement a little prematurely? Maybe he's still at less than 1.0? Just a few more tweaks!

Nink

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #816 on: November 10, 2015, 02:14:17 AM »
Now available mid 2016  Kicks can down the road. http://www.gdstechnologies.ca/index.html

We are now in our manufacturing phase and our product will be available mid 2016.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #817 on: November 10, 2015, 06:05:09 AM »


All customers can protect their shipment for any damaging orders by purchasing insurance with the shipping company it is very little money and not worth the risk to ship without it. GDS highly recommend this.

-if the item does not work for the customer and would like to return it, but it does not work for the seller, then there is some sort of built in profitable clause  that does work that could cost 5 grand, plus shipping. the seller gets 5 grand and the buyer who handled the shipping arrangements, could have their own challenges dealing with getting their money back elsewhere.


GDS is not responsible when leaving our facility.

-ideally using shipping it sounds like is the preferred ideal for generating sales, though no proper shipping prearrangements have been considered by this 'manufacturer'. is this at all common?

Client is responsible for delivery, any cross border duties and bonding charges, if applicable.

- if not applicable then a local pick up has been arranged, by someone most likely living in the same area, who will be using canadian dollars that must be converted to us values, though the seller has a canadian flag icon on their webpage.

If you are not satisfied with our product within 15 days of delivery GDS Technologies Canada will refund your money in full. If unit is damaged, there will be no refund, must be in clean new working order. If your not satisfied with our product within 15 days of delivery, GDS Technologies Canada will refund your money in full.

Note: Delivery or any duty charges will not apply to any refunds only our product will be refunded.


Instruction and warranty manuals will be supplied with every unit sold.
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$5,000 USD + HST

- these are not canadian dollars, runs on water, costs the sky.
-canadian company advertising in us funds. sure that makes sense.


For warranty purpose, maximum run time is 4 continuous hours per day.

-that is $39.8 grand CAD for just 5kw if to go 24 hours per day. comical.


all 'components' of the generator units are ESA(Electrical Safety Authority) approved.

-as are off the shelf items.

is there not a requirement for other types of certification for a manufacturer and or seller in ontario for things such as these CAD $6634.50  investments?

5 grand us dollars, no advertised knowing of how long of time a customer has before it is no longer allowed to be returned for a refund.
i wonder how many pre orders have been placed.
and how many more will be placed before 'mid 2016'.

no, not gonna do it.

Nink

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #818 on: November 11, 2015, 09:26:16 PM »
Lets assume this generator is real.  The rules around the generators use are fairly stringent Only 4 hours a day for 1 year warranty or 365 days.   So that tells me the total run time is 1460 hours producing 5KVA. We have read it can run for 4 hours but then needs to cool down so the water is getting hot.  Needs 4 gallons of tap water but consumes 1 gallon every 4 days. 

I am beginning to wonder if this is a PEM fuel cell using Platinum  (or alternative) and Nafion (or alternative)  membranes to produce electricity. 

memoryman

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #819 on: November 12, 2015, 03:58:07 AM »
And what would the fuel be?

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #820 on: November 12, 2015, 04:23:23 AM »
And what would the fuel be?

Money from hapless dupes.

Bill

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #821 on: November 12, 2015, 05:17:32 AM »
Money from hapless dupes.

Bill

LOL yeah probably. 

I am looking from the perspective of  OK I want to scam someone but still stay in the rules of the law.  The 15 day money back guarantee is interesting.  So I can run for 4 hours a day for 15 days and after that I can't get a refund. 

A PEMFC usually uses hydrogen as the fuel.  Hydrogen can be created by passing voltage through a stack of stainless steal plates but this would be counter productive Electricity > Hydrogen > Electricity or via a chemical reaction Example Sodium Hydroxide + Aluminum. The reaction takes a while to start but a small amount of lye crystals should produce a decent amount of hydrogen  or you could use combination of the two.

Example: Start producing HHO by passing Water through stainless steal plates until mixing lye and water reaction starts. Then kill the battery and pass the hydrogen produced by the NaOH + Al +H2O reaction through the PEMFC. Now recharge the battery and provide 5000 watts of power.   

This would be an exothermic reaction that would produce a lot of heat so I wouldn't want to do this for a long time (perhaps 4 hours)  and you would need a lot of water to keep it cool (Maybe 4 Gallons).  Eventually you will run out of Lye Crystals though...  but would you only need enough lye crystals to fuel the device for 15 days / 4 hours per day or 60 hours. 


(Changed endothermic to exothermic)
« Last Edit: November 12, 2015, 01:25:16 PM by Nink »

Pirate88179

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #822 on: November 12, 2015, 05:21:26 AM »
LOL yeah probably. 

I am looking from the perspective of  OK I want to scam someone but still stay in the rules of the law.  The 15 day money back guarantee is interesting.  So I can run for 4 hours a day for 15 days and after that I can't get a refund. 

A PEMFC usually uses hydrogen as the fuel.  Hydrogen can be created by passing voltage through a stack of stainless steal plates but this would be counter productive Electricity > Hydrogen > Electricity or via a chemical reaction Example Sodium Hydroxide + Aluminum. The reaction takes a while to start but a small amount of lye crystals should produce a decent amount of hydrogen  or you could use combination of the two.

Example: Start producing HHO by passing Water through stainless steal plates until mixing lye and water reaction starts. Then kill the battery and pass the hydrogen produced by the NaOH + Al +H2O reaction through the PEMFC. Now recharge the battery and provide 5000 watts of power.   

This would be an endothermic reaction that would produce a lot of heat so I wouldn't want to do this for a long time (perhaps 4 hours)  and you would need a lot of water to keep it cool (Maybe 4 Gallons).  Eventually you will run out of Lye Crystals though...  but would you only need enough lye crystals to fuel the device for 15 days / 4 hours per day or 60 hours.

Hence the warranty.  I believe that you may be on to something here.  This whole deal just smells bad...you know?

Bill

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #823 on: November 12, 2015, 05:37:43 AM »
The claim that it can only run for four hours at a time simply makes no sense.  There is simply no rational reason to state this.  It's a big clue telling you that this is a fake.

markdansie

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #824 on: November 12, 2015, 10:35:11 AM »
And what would the fuel be?


We all know it commonly as Pixie Dust. You should know this already. Or it could be powered by the wheel work of nature
Kind Regards
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