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tinman

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #135 on: October 28, 2014, 01:54:03 PM »
There's still this matter of that component labelled with the number '25', and its possible function, which has been raised and still yet to be addressed.

Any takers as ?

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That is the space time modulator that bugs bunny stole from the little alien.

Nink

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #136 on: October 28, 2014, 01:55:21 PM »
There's still this matter of that component labelled with the number '25', and its possible function, which has been raised and still yet to be addressed.

Any takers as ?

Regards...

25 is the power bar and it looks like he took it from the same generac he took frame off.  I didnt go through all the Generac Models but this 7500 was close maybe someone with more patience can find the exact model with the same power bar and same screw holes in the metal frame.

MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #137 on: October 28, 2014, 01:55:25 PM »
That is the space time modulator that bugs bunny stole from the little alien.
If we do not return that to the shaving cream planet we will all be lost.

Magluvin

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #138 on: October 28, 2014, 05:27:44 PM »
That is the space time modulator that bugs bunny stole from the little alien.

I believe it was the eludium piew disintegrator.   ;) ;D

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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #139 on: October 28, 2014, 05:55:54 PM »
My research seems to indicate it might actually be a 'Gonkulator'.

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profitis

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #140 on: October 28, 2014, 06:27:29 PM »
Lol mark E yes I might know a thing or two about obtaining a few extra joules from water but I'm not going to demo anything here I'm already walking a tightrope.the inventor here did under no circumstances claim overunity of any kind unless you can show us how the phrase 'runs on water' applies to overunity and not to lubrication or hydraulics. energy drinks companies use the same lines,'runs on water' or 'powers you up forever' etc etc.. The duracell bunny is a classic examp.this inventor is using an advertising skills for a better bat.

profitis

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #141 on: October 28, 2014, 06:34:58 PM »
@tinman.how does that phrase ,'runs on water,get off the grid' equate to overunity claim as opposed to advertising flash.did mr potter say it is overunity or not

MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #142 on: October 28, 2014, 07:07:56 PM »
Lol mark E yes I might know a thing or two about obtaining a few extra joules from water but I'm not going to demo anything here I'm already walking a tightrope.the inventor here did under no circumstances claim overunity of any kind unless you can show us how the phrase 'runs on water' applies to overunity and not to lubrication or hydraulics. energy drinks companies use the same lines,'runs on water' or 'powers you up forever' etc etc.. The duracell bunny is a classic examp.this inventor is using an advertising skills for a better bat.
The inventor claims water alone as fuel which unless one is seriously ignorant or brain damaged one recognizes as a preposterous claim.

You are welcome to offer actual evidence that such a claim as the inventor makes can be true.


TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #143 on: October 28, 2014, 07:27:08 PM »
Does anyone have an estimate of the volume of the water tank on the unit shown in the video? Pelton wheels don't do too well when they are totally submerged.

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #144 on: October 28, 2014, 07:27:21 PM »
We have now entered the bizarro zone of ou.com folks.

And have transitioned from baseless claims of fraud despite the fact there is an unknown component in the unit which could be the key to its operation, to proof of concept being demanded from people who also have no idea what the mystery component is.

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TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #145 on: October 28, 2014, 07:38:55 PM »
We have now entered the bizarro zone of ou.com folks.

And have transitioned from baseless claims of fraud despite the fact there is an unknown component in the unit which could be the key to its operation, to proof of concept being demanded from people who also have no idea what the mystery component is.

Regards...

If you are talking about my question, I don't see the rationale for your complaint. If the amount of water that the claimant says to add completely fills the tank or even partially submerges the Pelton wheel, the efficiency of the Pelton system goes _way_ down. And this then would be a further inconsistency about the device that would add to the total "tells" that the device does not operate as claimed.

But of course... this complaint comes from a real troll, Captain Zero, who contributes nothing to the discussion but merely attacks the discussants.

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #146 on: October 28, 2014, 07:47:48 PM »
Only a massive ego could possibly relate my post to this troll's posted droolings.

Its all about TK all the time I guess.

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MarkE

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #147 on: October 28, 2014, 08:01:44 PM »
We have now entered the bizarro zone of ou.com folks.

And have transitioned from baseless claims of fraud despite the fact there is an unknown component in the unit which could be the key to its operation, to proof of concept being demanded from people who also have no idea what the mystery component is.

Regards...
LOL.  That's quite the argument from ignorance:  Very willful ignorance.  We also don't know if they hid fairies under the wire nuts.  Neither matters.  GDS claims the machine is powered by energy from a fuel source that doesn't have any energy to give. 

Nink

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #148 on: October 28, 2014, 08:17:09 PM »
I don't think he has claimed over unity anywhere, just claimed it runs on water. 

He probably could have put a 12 volt HOH generator (run a current through a dozen stainless steal plates and collected the gas)  and ran a HOH motor of it so he could legally say it runs on water. Yes you would have the HOH generation stop when the battery went flat but it would have at least been a valid claim.

He could have also used an osmotic generator by putting both Sea water and Fresh water in the device and using pressure retarded osmosis  but again I fail to see that occurring and he specifically says no salt water and we would need a few thousand liter water tanks or two hoses one connected to fresh and one to salt.

He could have connected a garden hose and at least supplemented the power with the pelton generator and create maybe 2 or 3 watts (and perhaps he did that in an earlier version) but I agree that if this is actually connected in the current form it would only retard the system consuming energy for the sake of mixing the water.

He could be using the water and the pelton wheel to create waves in the tank and then use the salter's  duck method or other form of wave energy generator to convert the waves into electricity but in this small space I can't see him getting more than a couple of watts of power and the water would not depreciate (unless he has a leak). 

He could have use a tidal energy method and had two tanks with the water flowing from the top tank to the bottom tank and use the water pressure to turn the turbine and generate power but again no second tank (unless the water spills on the ground) but a few liters is not going to last more than a few minutes and <1 watt.

The wheel in the water tank could be a minto wheel or some type of heat transfer engine with evaporation (One Hundred Drinking birds) this would explain the fact you need to refill the water as the evaporative cooling method would consume a small amount of water over time. But again only create < 1 watt. 

He does have water in the battery for electrolyses as  part of the charging process and the fact the batteries have handles and do not appear to be secured I get the feeling they need to  be charged frequently.  Without the water it would not work so I guess he could say it does in fact use water but this maybe a stretch. 

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #149 on: October 28, 2014, 09:54:28 PM »
Here's what I think on my more charitable times: Gregory Potter is another self-deluded "inventor" who thinks his system will work, and who is so confident it will that he has started selling it before it is ready to go. We have seen this kind of self-delusion before many times. He provides a partial demonstration as "evidence" that he has something to sell. We have seen this before many times. When challenged about the claims, they start to be altered, and the past claims get covered up. We have seen this before, many times. And the people who are most vocal in pointing out the problems and inconsistencies in the claimant's behaviour and claims... they get attacked and insulted... but never refuted. We have seen this before, many times!

Then I come to my senses and think "Wayne Travis".....

Well I hope that you are back!  I personally refuse to give one of these people the benefit of the doubt.  Something like "It ran for 10 minutes at high power so I thought that it could do the same thing for 12 hours."  Lies!

Jamie, this new guy, whomever, they simply can't be so stupid such that they don't do a load test to meet their "performance criteria."  It just doesn't make sense and I refuse to believe this scenario can be true.

Meanwhile, on this thread, there has also been a lot of discussion that makes no sense at all.  For example, all of this talk of a pelton wheel is crazy.  Do you have any idea what kind of water pressure and flow rate it would take to produce three or five kilowatts of rotational mechanical output from the pelton wheel?  Are you supposed to hook up the generator to a high-pressure fire hydrant?  Likewise all of this crazy talk about "Rube Goldberg" recycling of energy inside the box.  Evey single step would be under unity, it's just nonsense talk.  Likewise Captain Zero does the "magic box" argument.  There could be a "magic box" in any possible free energy devcice that you can imagine.

This one is a transparent fraud. The degrees that people will bend over to "make an accommodation" in their thought processes because of a desire to believe is hard to believe itself.

The little black box that holds water inside the big black box does NOTHING.  It's just a prop that does nothing.  Just like the whole box does nothing, it is a PROP.  When the guy shows it powering a hand drill, that's because there is a battery powering an inverter inside the big box.

I am also feeling that the guy in the clip is just a frontman that knows nothing.  He is being paid to put a public face on this fraud and the real perpetrator that dreamt up this scheme is behind the camera.

MileHigh