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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #120 on: October 28, 2014, 07:59:48 AM »
Haven't we had this discussion before?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patent_pending

I don't know about Canada, but in the USA and in Australia, it is actually illegal to use the term "Patent pending" in sales or descriptive literature about a product unless a patent application has actually been filed.

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Fraudulent use of a patent pending designation is prohibited by the law of many countries and inventors should be cautious when marking products or methods that may arguably not be covered by any pending patent application. In some jurisdictions, such as the United Kingdom, a warning notice should ideally mention the number of the pending application.

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The use of the term "patent pending" or "patent applied for" is permitted so long as a patent application has actually been filed. If these terms are used when no patent application has been filed it is deemed as a deceptive act and a fine of up to $500 may be imposed for every such offense.

The Canadian patent article is longer:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_patent_law

And from what that article contains, I am wondering how a box full of commercial off the shelf items connected in obvious and well known ways could ever be considered patentable. Especially after the video and other "disclosures" from GDS.

So what are the numbers of the Canadian patent applications, then?




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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #121 on: October 28, 2014, 08:36:38 AM »
Gotoluc allow scripts.

It gets funnier.  Here is the product detail information from alibaba  http://m.alibaba.com/product/50002273662/Portable_water_generator_runs_on_water_/productdetail.html

Portable water generator (runs on water)
Quick Details
Place of Origin:    Ontario Canada
Brand Name:    GDS
Model Number:    GDS5000
Type:    Generator
Electricity Generator Type:    runs on water
Output Voltage (V):    110
GDS5000:    5360
Packaging & Delivery
Packaging Detail:    Foam with Cardboard
Delivery Detail:    31 Days
 
Specifications
Portable water generator that runs on water,copper coils and magnets.creates 5000 watts of electricity per hour.

GDS5000 which produces 5000 watts of power for light duty. Use for your house, cottage or small construction project. Emergency back-up power, concerts, camping, motor home. This unit is also 50% less noisey than traditional generator so you can use indoors with NO Fumes and NO Pollution and it's a great way of saving energy cost and helping the environment.
How does it work?

When you receive your new portable water generator just add 4 gallons of normal water in the tank and turn the red toggle switch to on position (emergency safety) that will start the battery and pump and turbine all at once, it's that easy. All units have been tested before leaving our facility.

Instruction and warranty manuals will be supplied with every unit sold.
How do I know which unit I need?

Simple, on ever electrical product that is made, there is a sticker and it will show how many watts per hour it uses then total all the watts together, that will tell you how many watts you are using and will help you decide which unit best works for your needs.

SPECIFICATIONS

Product Series GDS5000

AC Voltage 110/240

AC Frequency 50/60 hz

Energy Type Turbine Generator 5kw

Generator Coils and Magnets

Start method Battery

Ground On Frame

Water Gauge On Tank

Digital Hour meter with volt/amp meter

Start Switch Type On/Off

Handle Style Single Folding/Locking

1 1⁄4 Steel Frame Strength and Durability

Emergency Stop Button Yes

Well well well. It appears that Gregory Potter has been trying to reduce his exposure on AliBaba. Try that link now....
http://m.alibaba.com/product/50002273662/Portable_water_generator_runs_on_water_/productdetail.html

And this page has changed too:
http://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Portable-water-generator-runs-on-water-_50002273662.html

And of course a search of the Canadian patent database returns no results for Gregory Potter. That could be because his application is too new to appear there, of course.

Offline profitis

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #122 on: October 28, 2014, 09:01:13 AM »
So we can deduce that after seeing your cries of scam etc here that the inventor is still determined to inject onto market mr tinselkoala.this is a good sign.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #123 on: October 28, 2014, 09:11:52 AM »
Please note that the claim is NOT a claim of overunity of any kind.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #124 on: October 28, 2014, 09:21:09 AM »
Please note that the claim is NOT a claim of overunity of any kind.
Please note that the claim is one of powering an engine from water.  You are welcome to explain how hundreds of MJ may be obtained from 16 liters of tap water.  Perhaps you would like to post a demonstration.  You do claim expertise in chemistry don't you?

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #125 on: October 28, 2014, 09:53:40 AM »
So we can deduce that after seeing your cries of scam etc here that the inventor is still determined to inject onto market mr tinselkoala.this is a good sign.
You are funny!

Here's what I think on my more charitable times: Gregory Potter is another self-deluded "inventor" who thinks his system will work, and who is so confident it will that he has started selling it before it is ready to go. We have seen this kind of self-delusion before many times. He provides a partial demonstration as "evidence" that he has something to sell. We have seen this before many times. When challenged about the claims, they start to be altered, and the past claims get covered up. We have seen this before, many times. And the people who are most vocal in pointing out the problems and inconsistencies in the claimant's behaviour and claims... they get attacked and insulted... but never refuted. We have seen this before, many times!


Then I come to my senses and think "Wayne Travis".....

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #126 on: October 28, 2014, 10:08:02 AM »
You are funny!

Here's what I think on my more charitable times: Gregory Potter is another self-deluded "inventor" who thinks his system will work, and who is so confident it will that he has started selling it before it is ready to go. We have seen this kind of self-delusion before many times. He provides a partial demonstration as "evidence" that he has something to sell. We have seen this before many times. When challenged about the claims, they start to be altered, and the past claims get covered up. We have seen this before, many times. And the people who are most vocal in pointing out the problems and inconsistencies in the claimant's behaviour and claims... they get attacked and insulted... but never refuted. We have seen this before, many times!


Then I come to my senses and think "Wayne Travis".....
Ah and where is Mr. Wayne and his buoyancy machines?  He's in about the same state as James Kwok and his hapless buoyancy machines. Wouldn't it be nice for Honest Wayne Travis if he could find a trillionaire willing to write a big cheque without doing any diligence?  Then Wayne could pay off all the existing investors he's ripped off and stop worrying each time someone offers him a ride whether it would be wise to keep walking.  Alas, poor Mr. Wayne can't seem to catch a break.  The supermarket won't even give him a discount on such necessities as milk, toilet paper, or paper towels.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #127 on: October 28, 2014, 12:07:09 PM »
Portable generator that RUNS on WATER.
Simply hook up one of our generators,and get OFF the expensive grid.

Dosnt come much clearer than that.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #128 on: October 28, 2014, 12:21:35 PM »
http://pesn.com/2014/10/27/9602557_GDS-Technologies_not-ready-to-go-yet/2014-10-27_time_07_42_58-MDT_call-to_Greg-Potter.mp3

This probably won't stay up very long....

Great "interview" isn't it? Where the interviewer does most of the talking...... and the interviewee doesn't explain why he put up a YT video, AliBaba pages, and PayPal links offering something for sale that he couldn't actually supply "yet".


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #129 on: October 28, 2014, 12:54:15 PM »
Archived.

The call was hilarious.  Most of the time Sterling was trying to push his beliefs and Mike Water's contraptions on Potter.  Questions like:  "What kind of test data do you have?"  "Is it independent?"  "How many units have shipped?"  "Why did you take out an advertisement this month to store trucks?" etc didn't seem to occur to Sterling.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #130 on: October 28, 2014, 01:29:05 PM »
http://pesn.com/2014/10/27/9602557_GDS-Technologies_not-ready-to-go-yet/2014-10-27_time_07_42_58-MDT_call-to_Greg-Potter.mp3

This probably won't stay up very long....

Great "interview" isn't it? Where the interviewer does most of the talking...... and the interviewee doesn't explain why he put up a YT video, AliBaba pages, and PayPal links offering something for sale that he couldn't actually supply "yet".
I love the way seagull-i mean Stirling tries to weasle his way into the deal. I have the best guys that could help you out with the engineering ::) The guy just built a machine that is powered by water(apparently),and he needs the help of engineer's ???

A water powered QMoGen-->aint that a hoot.

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #131 on: October 28, 2014, 01:40:54 PM »
You can't run an airconditioner on the 3000 watt unit you need the 5000 watt unit that can run 3 airconditioners because 5000 / 3 = anyway we also have a 15000 watt unit ...   Now you may think I just used photoshop to change the color and the logo NOOO and we also use robots to assemble to the greatest level of quality control so screws are turned to the exact same position, scratches replicated and even random bends in our vents are standardized. 

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #132 on: October 28, 2014, 01:41:45 PM »
There's still this matter of that component labelled with the number '25', and its possible function, which has been raised and still yet to be addressed.

Any takers as ?

Regards...


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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #133 on: October 28, 2014, 01:44:12 PM »
I love the way seagull-i mean Stirling tries to weasle his way into the deal. I have the best guys that could help you out with the engineering ::) The guy just built a machine that is powered by water(apparently),and he needs the help of engineer's ???

A water powered QMoGen-->aint that a hoot.
Yes, but does his QMoGen have:  Microthermite accelerators?  Dusti8fying space beams?  A rusty chain link to the wheel work of nature?  A holder for post apocalypse beef jerky?

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Re: GDS 3 KW generator runs on water
« Reply #134 on: October 28, 2014, 01:48:35 PM »
There's still this matter of that component labelled with the number '25', and its possible function, which has been raised and still yet to be addressed.

Any takers as ?

Regards...
As if it matters:  From the front side it looks like a circuit breaker.