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Re: Crystal Battery #351
« Reply #75 on: November 26, 2014, 01:33:40 PM »

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Re: Crystal Cell #352 - Nov. 23, 2014
« Reply #76 on: November 26, 2014, 01:36:13 PM »

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #77 on: November 26, 2014, 01:55:07 PM »
Motivational Quote from T. Edison... "I have NOT failed... I've just found 10,000 ways that won't work!" lol

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
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Re: #345 Status - UNcooked cell
« Reply #78 on: November 26, 2014, 05:37:48 PM »
Noticed I labeled this status wrong... this reading and dead call was for cell #345 -- the uncooked cell. I have not dissected or watered it yet. I'll just leave it on the shelf for a while until I decide which direction to go in for #345.
Alright... so I watered it, which didn't help much... then I broke it apart, cleaned the electrodes to see what was going on... no deterioration on the anode (copper), none I could see on the magnesium, but there was some crystal growth... I reassembled it with a little alum on the anode, but not much power. Then I coated the mix with Epsom salt... no real improvement... watered it again... nothing... then I decided to dry it, but didn't feel like waiting, so I broke out the blow torch... that helped a bit initially, but after a short bit, it seemed to kill it quickly. I'll post the video when it is done... RIP #345... fun stuff!!! lol

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Re: #345 Status - UNcooked cell - RIP!
« Reply #79 on: November 26, 2014, 07:09:15 PM »
Alright... so I watered it, which didn't help much... then I broke it apart, cleaned the electrodes to see what was going on... no deterioration on the anode (copper), none I could see on the magnesium, but there was some crystal growth... I reassembled it with a little alum on the anode, but not much power. Then I coated the mix with Epsom salt... no real improvement... watered it again... nothing... then I decided to dry it, but didn't feel like waiting, so I broke out the blow torch... that helped a bit initially, but after a short bit, it seemed to kill it quickly. I'll post the video when it is done... RIP #345... fun stuff!!! lol
So here's a fun video showing the above stated experiments...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk70nl1QFc4
NOTE: I said mV instead of mA a couple times... quick and dirty video...
Also, it had gone down to 0.17 mA, not 1.7 mA under load... I added some more alum on the top and it worked it's way back up to about 0.3 mA, but after a couple hours, it is back down to 0.23 mA. If a crystal cell of this size can't maintain at least 1-2 mA under load with my JT circuits, it's dead or at least useless...

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Re: #345 Status - UNcooked cell - RIP!
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Re: Crystal Batteries - Testing Corrosive Effects Of Electrolytes On Magnesium
« Reply #80 on: November 26, 2014, 08:48:24 PM »
Part 3 - Day 3 - The True Power Of ALUM!!!! "It eats magnesium like butter" as Fausto says!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjVi-0Wq9gY

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New Build #354 Status - cooked cell
« Reply #81 on: November 26, 2014, 09:36:13 PM »
3" copper pipe, sealed end with silicone latex, let sit for 5 hours, mixed 12 parts activated carbon, 6 parts Epsom salt, 2 parts hydrate #5, 2 parts MnO2, 1 parts borax, heated with purified water* to about 200 F until it was a thick mush, coated 48" of magnesium strips folded to about 3.25", taped on one end with masking tape, then wrapped in coffee filter, then wrapped copper on the other end and taped with masking tape (like my other builds) - this is the cathode. I placed the cathode in place and tried to spoon the electrolyte in, but it wasn't working, so I took the cathode out and spooned the electrolyte in first, then pushed the cathode in place... Well.. the sealed end got pushed out, so I resealed it with fresh caulk and then sealed the other end with caulk.  On short, the mA reading was initially over 90 mA, but after about 15 minutes, it is about 34 mA. I'll hook it up to a JT and put it on the shelf to see how long it lasts.

Note: The new addition is hydrate #5 and Borax, which I am hoping will make the cell last longer. Also, there is no air in the pipe - it is a mush, and very wet in there. It will take longer to crystallize without air. I'll report my findings....

*distilled water uses a distillation process, which DOES NOT get rid of chemical contaminants like fluoride. I have a 6 stage filtration process, which is sediment filter, activated carbon filter and 4 bone char filters to get rid of chemical contaminants from public water here in the US. They like to poison us with fluoride here in the US, so I do what I can.... I imagine that beer, wine and the distilled water you buy from the store has fluoride in it here in the US....

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Re: #344 Status - cooked cell
« Reply #82 on: November 26, 2014, 10:09:29 PM »
Currently reading 888 mV under load. Want to set up a pool for predictions on when it gets down to 600 mV? My nickle bet is in less than a week from now...
Currently reading 837 mV under load.

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Re: #345 Status - UNcooked cell - RIP!
« Reply #83 on: November 26, 2014, 10:16:55 PM »
So here's a fun video showing the above stated experiments...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk70nl1QFc4
NOTE: I said mV instead of mA a couple times... quick and dirty video...
Also, it had gone down to 0.17 mA, not 1.7 mA under load... I added some more alum on the top and it worked it's way back up to about 0.3 mA, but after a couple hours, it is back down to 0.23 mA. If a crystal cell of this size can't maintain at least 1-2 mA under load with my JT circuits, it's dead or at least useless...


On this video you just confirmed one of my findings concerning this formula. It does not work adding water or any other element solution after dead (WITH ONE EXCEPTION). I dumped my #149 cell from Mar-2013 into the "cemetery" because of that same reason, but there is a surprise coming.


Fausto.

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Re: #345 Status - UNcooked cell - RIP!
« Reply #83 on: November 26, 2014, 10:16:55 PM »
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Re: Crystal Batteries - Testing Corrosive Effects Of Electrolytes On Magnesium
« Reply #84 on: November 26, 2014, 10:20:49 PM »
Part 3 - Day 3 - The True Power Of ALUM!!!! "It eats magnesium like butter" as Fausto says!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjVi-0Wq9gY


As you said on the video, "they will deteriorate under load". That's way I proposed to do the same experiment with both electrodes inside to simulate that "load".



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Re: #345 Status - UNcooked cell - RIP!
« Reply #85 on: November 26, 2014, 10:56:18 PM »
On this video you just confirmed one of my findings concerning this formula. It does not work adding water or any other element solution after dead (WITH ONE EXCEPTION). I dumped my #149 cell from Mar-2013 into the "cemetery" because of that same reason, but there is a surprise coming. - Fausto.
Did you fry your cell with a blow torch? I thought you would enjoy that! lol

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Re: #345 Status - UNcooked cell - RIP!
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Re: #344 Status - cooked cell
« Reply #86 on: November 26, 2014, 11:33:20 PM »
Currently reading 837 mV under load.
Currently reading 840 mV under load - up a little... I ordered 4 Hygrometers today to place in various testing lab areas in my home. These go down to 0% instead of 15%, which should help me determine if humidity is a factor in the open cells. All my current cells are sealed, so this won't be a factor with them. I'll check temperature too and maybe throw a couple in the fridge and freezer in the future to see how they are affected.

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Re: #345 Status - UNcooked cell - RIP!
« Reply #87 on: November 27, 2014, 01:21:50 AM »
Did you fry your cell with a blow torch? I thought you would enjoy that! lol
I feel like Frankenstein trying to resurrect this cell... It was just sitting here with the multimeter shorted on the uA readings for many hours and it was still hanging (on short) at around 120 uA, so I gave it a quick spray of water and it climbed up to about 1/2 mA, which is almost usable. Then I sprinkled about 5 pinches of alum on top and watched. It was over 2 mA for a while and after about 15 minutes is still over 1 mA. I am not sure why I think the blow torch would help... maybe I just want to burn this bastard to death, but I'll let it RIP tonight and see how it's doing tomorrow. I have a nice wooden frame, 44" of mag strip and some copper wire invested in this bastard, so I won't let it die easily! lol - Frankenstein lives! Either that, or I will burn it to it's FINAL death with the blow torch... we'll see...

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Re: #344 Status - cooked cell
« Reply #88 on: November 27, 2014, 01:25:40 AM »
Currently reading 840 mV under load - up a little... I ordered 4 Hygrometers today to place in various testing lab areas in my home. These go down to 0% instead of 15%, which should help me determine if humidity is a factor in the open cells. All my current cells are sealed, so this won't be a factor with them. I'll check temperature too and maybe throw a couple in the fridge and freezer in the future to see how they are affected.
Currently reading 820 mV under load...

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Re: #345 Status - UNcooked cell - RIP!
« Reply #89 on: November 27, 2014, 06:39:35 AM »
Did you fry your cell with a blow torch? I thought you would enjoy that! lol
kkkk, that was very funny indeed.  :P


Hey that's what science is all about, having fun.


There is this sound software from Spectrasonics where one of the sounds on the synth is of a "burning piano". Super cool sound. I use it on my music. They literally burned a piano while playing the keys and recorded the whole thing and made an instrument from it.


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