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Author Topic: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter  (Read 128693 times)

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #345 on: November 11, 2019, 05:06:49 PM »
http://rexresearch.com/reid/reid.htm
September 1999 to December 2006 totally 60 Wh output from the 900 Gr.  Cristal cell,

this are 10 Wh per year  !

For 1 KWh per year : 100 x 10 Wh = 100 x 900 Gr.= 90 Kg Cristal cell
For 1 KWh per day : 365 KWh /0,01KWh = 36500 x 900 Gr.= 32850 Kg Cristal cell



"open source" production 2 US$ per Kg ( recycled aluminium ) :  65700 US$ for 1 KWh daily delivery

                     Over 34 cents/KWh electricity costs  ! It is not cheap ! By 1000% improvement : okay !


It is actually uneconomical/-ecological :

when we calculate for a aluminium battery with 200 Watth capacity x 3000 charge cycles =

     600 KWh per Kg aluminium x 32850 Kg = 19710000 KWh mass energy storage capacity

The Reid cell  with 32850 Kg mass : 365 KWh energy storage delivery
                                  good/bad engineering performance :

                       365/ 19710000 = 0,00000185 mass output ratio 


   2250 cars with aluminium battery or                                              32850 Kg mass
          1 private household with 1 KWh per day electricity               32850 Kg mass

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #345 on: November 11, 2019, 05:06:49 PM »

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #346 on: November 11, 2019, 07:24:22 PM »
Interesting everyone's point of view. Some are down right earth and critical to make me cry and stop BUT, nooooooo. This research has been a delight in my life. All I do is have fun, learn, experiment, thinker it, study chemistry like crazy. This is fun.




Man, these cells have free energy all right. We don't know how they work. I found the bare bone effect which is well demonstrated on my recent video. The first in 7 years i think.


I look at this as a learning experiment. If, a big if, if that source of free energy , although extremely small, if that effect can be amplified to 6 orders of magnitude, we are talking big power.


Today's open air batteries (Mg air battery , Al, etc) are extremely promising but how come they are able to produce so much power by simply converting Mg to Mg Oxide?  (Mg = Magnesium).


In my case I have a nice little beautiful light running 24/7 until the day I die for the cost of $3 and a learning experience.


So, science is not about making money and bringing a revolution to the world. I really don't care about that anymore. I care about learning, discovering and teaching my kids and friends that FREE ENERGY IS REAL and we are the dumb ones to not know how it works. Science locked everyone out when they designed the 1st and 2nd thermodynamic laws, which are not laws at all.




So, to answer one, Yes, I have a little light running every day/night shinning the hallway of my house.
The power is very useful since I don't have to buy a light device, buy batteries, many times. I have my light, my eternal light running since 2013 and all she needs is a place, no water or air. Casted into an Epoxy Resin.


How I know it is not galvanic? That is very complicated to answer. Not all my cells are non-galvanic. Some are, some are not. Some are extremely efficient and some are the opposite. Once I made a cell and the electrolyte (my formula) and it devoured a 12", 4" diameter rod of Magnesium in one week. I never saw something so strong. Just Alum. John Bedini's favorite electrolyte (I am said he passed away).


One of my very old running cell is presenting a constant steady voltage and no sighs of decay. No access to inside the cell either. It is inside a resin. I know that one is not galvanic because I already tested extensively different quantities of the elements in the cell to know how long they should run. They passed that calculated time by many times now.


Besides, my Mg plates now are only 1 mm thick. They go very fast when the reaction is galvanic.


Now, here is my question back, why it has to be galvanic?




Fausto.


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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #347 on: November 11, 2019, 07:28:15 PM »

Great info. Thank you.


And, that link you gave is the only thing I had 8 years ago, or so, when I looked into Marcus's cells.


Fausto.

http://rexresearch.com/reid/reid.htm
September 1999 to December 2006 totally 60 Wh output from the 900 Gr.  Cristal cell,

this are 10 Wh per year  !

For 1 KWh per year : 100 x 10 Wh = 100 x 900 Gr.= 90 Kg Cristal cell
For 1 KWh per day : 365 KWh /0,01KWh = 36500 x 900 Gr.= 32850 Kg Cristal cell



"open source" production 2 US$ per Kg ( recycled aluminium ) :  65700 US$ for 1 KWh daily delivery

                     Over 34 cents/KWh electricity costs  ! It is not cheap ! By 1000% improvement : okay !


It is actually uneconomical/-ecological :

when we calculate for a aluminium battery with 200 Watth capacity x 3000 charge cycles =

     600 KWh per Kg aluminium x 32850 Kg = 19710000 KWh mass energy storage capacity

The Reid cell  with 32850 Kg mass : 365 KWh energy storage delivery
                                  good/bad engineering performance :

                       365/ 19710000 = 0,00000185 mass output ratio 


   2250 cars with aluminium battery or                                              32850 Kg mass
          1 private household with 1 KWh per day electricity               32850 Kg mass

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #347 on: November 11, 2019, 07:28:15 PM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #348 on: November 11, 2019, 07:28:59 PM »
This video doesn't answer my questions about the Marcus Reid crystal cells.

There is no information about:
- which materials he is using
- how to build the cell

I also don't see any new developments. Did he present anything new (improved) in the last 10 years ?

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #349 on: November 11, 2019, 08:33:24 PM »
  Yea, perhaps in another 8 years Fausto might be able to actually get some where.
 Some say that crystal (salt "crystals") cells, get better with time... 
   Or dissolve into dust.  Whether the cell is galvanic or not, is not as important, as it's real usefulness, at only a few mAs output.   

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #349 on: November 11, 2019, 08:33:24 PM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #350 on: November 11, 2019, 09:11:53 PM »
Do you fellows understand that the 1mil sheet can be opened and examined for Galvanic reaction

and if Fausto has touched on a mechanism to harvest with no input power and if this mechanism is found to not be ambient noise harvesting ?
the Keys to a much bigger city !!

Masterplaster mentioned Titanium Dioxide coatings with Water and Glass
these "aligned chain" water molecule configurations ...are all the rage these days
here the Vid again from applied science.. the 9 minute mark shows Glass harvesting charge from Water [nano scale] with no power
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzVa_tX1OiI


and we can experiment here ??
nothing but gratitude and Hugs for the messenger !!







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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #351 on: November 11, 2019, 09:16:34 PM »
https://www.google.com/search?q=marcus+reid+cristal+cell&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-m
www.breakthru-technologies.com  11 mW/Kg/25°C

if this is the per hour delivery :

11mW x 8766 hours ~ 96,5 Wh/Kg/year


compared to 1999-2006 10 Wh/900 Gr/year

96,5/( 10/0,9) ~ 8,7  the output or 770% improvement  !


32850 Kg /8,7 ~ now 3775 Kg cristal cell material for 1 KWh per day electricity delivery ~ 1 cube metre

Here the Reid cell development company :
https://vakuumenergie.de/?by_user=66.249.66.140&ref_url=%2Fdoc%2FThe_Crystal_Cell.pdf

Economical-/ecological view :

3775 Kg and 1 KWh( 41,5 W x 24 h)
compared

12 V and 1,5 A = 18 VA x 24 h = 432 VAh or Watth per day

https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=5&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19280203&CC=FR&NR=633752A&KC=A#
Weight/portability dis-/ad- vantage. ? Production costs  ?


3x Meredieu capsels ~ 1x 3775 Kg Reid cell cube

Meredieu disadvantage : the periodic water as ionic fuel refill

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #351 on: November 11, 2019, 09:16:34 PM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #352 on: November 11, 2019, 10:20:36 PM »
Do you fellows understand that the 1mil sheet can be opened and examined for Galvanic reaction
Has this been done ?  If yes, and there were no signs for galvanic reaction, this would change my mind.
The problem is: the average experimenter (without a deep understanding of chemistry) is not able to do such an examination. This has to be done by a lab.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #353 on: November 12, 2019, 12:05:29 AM »
Skywatcher
Accounting for ...or auditing all the energy from assembly /manufacter time until years later invasive/destructive analysis ?


I am certain data logging the output at maximum load
Long enough to make obvious galvanic particulate trace (if that is part of analysis
Protocols ) in conjunction with energy output audit (for sample comparison against galvanic “control” cell
Of similar/same composition and weight size etc (within reason?)
Can very easily be done !
Member Gotoluc recently did this for 3 or more months with an “Attempt “ at a Rick Freidrick battery
Conditioning claim (no magic found tho in comparison to standard batteries ( as of this writing ...that
One may still be ongoing ...not certain)
Fully automating test apparatus with arduino or similar for autonomous data logging  (set test protocols ??


Below entertainment /education??

Charge can do funny things ....here an unrelated (or is it) vid of a guy showing just how odd a charge
Effect may be (energy field)
From member Jim  Boot https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I2B6j4MCpOg&feature=youtu.be






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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #354 on: November 12, 2019, 12:19:04 AM »
The problem is that most of the crystal cells deliver so little power that you have to wait for years or even decades to rule out galvanic reaction.
Also the 'they don't die when shorted' argument is problematic because they have a high internal resistance so you can not really short them externally.

@Plengo:
How do you 'treat' the surface of your electrodes ?  I didn't find any info about this in your videos.
To replicate your results every detail how you make them is important.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #355 on: November 12, 2019, 12:43:24 AM »
Another question:
If the cell is not galvanic, why does it only work when two different metals are used ?
Why does it deliver more voltage when Cu/Mg is used, and less voltage if Cu/Al (or other combinations) are used ?



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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #356 on: November 12, 2019, 12:50:55 AM »
Skywatcher
Quite certain in the proper hands with electron scope
Things can be interpreted quickly and concisely.


And we do have this available


May not need electron scope either
I will find out


Also certain Fausto will have more input on his procedures
And vetting techniques over the years .

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #357 on: November 12, 2019, 02:37:53 AM »

Well, i have been pondering about this question for a long time.


It is tricky because all my cells are contaminated. I don't have a lab so my techniques are far from what I would like to have. 


Since I only replicated my own work now, just this last week, which I published a video showing my A5 (that's her name), I am still not work in progress. Now I am on another level. At 1 mm Mg plates. Corrosion is very fast and very obvious. A simple magnifying glass shows it. Also how long it runs is important. Usually at 1 mm I can see corrosion in 4 hours.


So all my tests now are quicker than before. Before every test took weeks and months and all in one machine to log only. Now I am doing faster, many, many quicker tests.


So to answer our questions here it is what I am doing:


- Each set of cells that I make I take pictures/videos and put it to run under load and on the computer logging voltage and time. Load usually is a resistor. So i infer current. Too bad I don't have two sensors at once.
- After each quick run I open and inspect the plates.
- The run is based on how long water content will completely evaporate/dry from the cell.
- if no corrosion present, replenish the cell with FUEL and run it again.
- stop when corrosion is present.



Very simple. I test almost hundreds of cells this way. Previous years my methods were difficult because I cannot open the running cells anymore. They are set in stone now.

With this technique I can test many different materials and formulas. My work is almost 100% empirical. I don't care what the book says if it does not help. Just repeating that " it is REDOX " means nothing to me because none of the numbers and experiments that I do are equivalent to what the books are saying. It is a game. So I don't take the reality of "chemistry" as being absolute.


Another issue I see is that many are trying to make a BATTERY that is rechargeable. I am NOT. I want a MACHINE that produces electricity. A Transistor is not a BATTERY but a MACHINE. That is more like my line of thought. This crystal cell have more to do with semi-conductors than chemistry.


Now, here is a question that I would love to know. I have a copper plate and a magnesium plate with an oxide layer on top of it. Just putting this 2 dry plates together we have a voltage. How come? Voltage means it has some current even in the pico level. Where that infinity supply of pico current comes from? Don't that bother you? It does not die, ever. It is there always. Different layers or chemicals, different voltages. All of those cases have no power under a load. Interesting. Those 2 plates are capable of producing an infinite amount of pico current under a certain load. If you change this "load" even that pico current is gone. Interesting. Dynamic behavior or related to the load some how.


Well, that is leading me to another investigation that has been masked by the long running cells, galvanic or not. The EFFECT (as I call it) is present but it is so small that no one sees it when a galvanic reaction is happening.


Would be possible to isolate that little energy and amplify? I think so. I am working on exactly that.


Concerning Marcus Reid, no info to share. He seams to only publish a few videos marketing style then anything else. Frustrating but hey, his baby, his ways.
I want to share and have people helping.


Fausto.

















The problem is that most of the crystal cells deliver so little power that you have to wait for years or even decades to rule out galvanic reaction.
Also the 'they don't die when shorted' argument is problematic because they have a high internal resistance so you can not really short them externally.

@Plengo:
How do you 'treat' the surface of your electrodes ?  I didn't find any info about this in your videos.
To replicate your results every detail how you make them is important.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #358 on: November 12, 2019, 02:40:17 AM »
Concerning the "treatment" of the plate.


Nothing special, just plain electrolysis. You can use vinegar as an electrolyte and also Sulfuric Acid. I use both.


I build many layers of "stuff" over the Mg plates and test them all. Voltage and current changes the outcome substantially. Millions of tests to perform. Of course I am following a certain intuition logic of my own.


Monkey Science.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #359 on: November 12, 2019, 08:08:57 AM »
Hot vinegar can be used to dissolve any metal
Which can then be electroplated onto your Mg


I’ve been solidifying every metal i can, into a solid salt crystal
They each have their own color, they are identified as organo-metallic
and you don’t want to touch most of them.




 

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