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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #31 on: November 22, 2014, 09:15:39 PM »
Teo,


great videos, really thank you. When you say "part 2" of F134 you mean the solution of Epson on top of F134 while applying current?


That solution is only necessary to START the process if current does not goes through the mix when forming the cell.


Anyway, as you see, just "part 2" will simply corrode the cell just like every other formula out there. F134 with the current applied is performing much better then the one not "cooked".


Also REALLY COOKING in a oven as you can see is not the same as using the applying current/voltage to the cells at all. The current applied (I called FC62 - process 62 volts/current) is a key element in protecting the metals.


I wonder how long it will run the first cell you made with that green light. This way of doing the cells with the "pasta of F134" is very unique and I have not done that way but I will give it a try and see what I find.


I know for sure that as I show in my video it will work and work extremely well holding the voltage steadily while under load lighting an LED.

Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2014, 09:43:07 PM »
When you say "part 2" of F134 you mean the solution of Epson on top of F134 while applying current?
current applied (I called FC62 - process 62 volts/current) is a key element in protecting the metals.

Part 2 was the alum and epson - there's espon, but no alum, in part 1 -  per your directions...
I don't have a dependable power supply, so I will have to work around that for now...

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #32 on: November 22, 2014, 09:43:07 PM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #33 on: November 23, 2014, 12:10:44 AM »
Here's an idea I will try tomorrow... to bind manganese dioxide to the mag strips... I'll do it outside in case of some explosive reaction! lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFrrCKs559g

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Manganese Dioxide Electrodes
« Reply #34 on: November 23, 2014, 12:19:37 AM »
Here's an idea I was looking at last year from NurdRage....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvMVlhBmv7M

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #35 on: November 23, 2014, 12:33:38 AM »
Here's another interesting and old video i found from my notes on manganese dioxide and Epson salt - from lidmotor...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzfnIQHu4bI

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #36 on: November 23, 2014, 12:46:15 AM »
And of course, Bedini's work with manganese, but he's using a type that is not as safe as MnO2... He's getting 1+ amps out of a dry cell...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5umdX2nraMU&feature=youtu.be

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #37 on: November 23, 2014, 12:48:35 AM »
And of course, Bedini's work with manganese, but he's using a type that is not as safe as MnO2... He's getting 1+ amps out of a dry cell...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5umdX2nraMU&feature=youtu.be
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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2014, 04:44:13 PM »
I am aware of those videos. Hey I would like to know the voltage of that FIRST F134 you cooked and attached a joule thief with a green light, please.


Please, leave that cell running for a few months and keep tracking the voltage here in the forum. I have a few insights about that build that is very interesting. Btw, what is the number of that cell?


What was the result of the other F134 you cooked on the oven? What was the performance of those compared to the first one (the green light)?


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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #38 on: November 23, 2014, 04:44:13 PM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #39 on: November 23, 2014, 05:52:48 PM »
I am aware of those videos. Hey I would like to know the voltage of that FIRST F134 you cooked and attached a joule thief with a green light, please. Please, leave that cell running for a few months and keep tracking the voltage here in the forum. I have a few insights about that build that is very interesting. Btw, what is the number of that cell? What was the result of the other F134's you cooked on the oven? What was the performance of those compared to the first one (the green light)? - Fausto.

Fausto, I have reports posted above with videos on those 4 cooked cells and the first 24 hour status on my 2 replications of your builds. I dissected the 4 stove cooked cells, there is a video posted above on those too. I'll test these around noon each day and report back. They should run the JT/LED circuit until they get down to about 6 mV or less, so I won't do anything with them except send reports here until they are dead. It will be interesting to see how the uncooked versus cooked perform.

Here's a video report on cell #351 from yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UChgvI68y5M

This is a completely different build - no cooking - no Epsom on the mag strip - PVC pipe - silicon sealed wet with some air inside (tapped in place dry). It's also a very different formula - almost no MnO2, no alum, very little Epson salt. I'll run the first test later today.

I also built another cell this morning, similar to this, but with much more copper - a copper pipe as the anode instead of the wire and watered down silicon on the mag strips to act as a semiconductor. I'll post a video on this later today too. Enjoy! - teo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2014, 07:28:42 PM »
Thanks for the data and videos.


I observed one thing about the "pasta cooked F134 - green light - first one" ( I still don't know the number of that build ), it does not have any space for breading inside. SO the crystal will not do its job. I built one and I also observed that.


The regular oven cooking will simply not work first because it will not create the semi-conductor's layer, very important, second it may not really dry inside as well as outside, it might actually burn too much inside if trying to dry inside.


Making those cells and using them wet will simply corrode them with time, specially the Mg ribbons. Which is good to find out faster the results.


In my video that I show in more detail the build, you will notice that I use a substantial amount of paper between the Mg and Copper and the MnO2 is INSIDE the paper not necessarily in direct contact with either the Copper or Magnesium. I do that in purpose since I am NOT TRYING TO PROTECT NEITHER METAL. It is a little weird to say that, but think, If there is no corrosion (my desire) why protect what is not being destroyed?


I DO HAVE A CELL THAT DOES NOT DIE, actually two. NEITHER CORRODE. It is difficult for people to believe but I do have the data to show. It is a very tricky thing to do but it works. The MnO2 will only suck the initial Hydrogen and Oxygen created on the first initial reaction and help avoid a different kind of Oxidation that I do not want. The second reason for MnO2 is for the conductivity of the crystal energy, think like a "semi-conductor for the crystal". The carbon is to reduce internal resistance and help retain water.


Mixing and pouring the mix over the metals is only good for building corrosive cells. Every layer I put in my cells have a specific purpose after hundreds of tests in all sorts of geometric builds.


That first cell you did with F134 will die, but not because corrosion but because starvation of water in the crystal and its lack of growth. It is like a flower that cannot breed when born under thorns and bushes.


So if you build something that has the spacing where the crystal and MnO2 will be together and the metals have the semi-conductor layer you will have a much greater chance of success without corrosion.


I add the crystal with the solution of Epson/Alum (part 2) while cooking so they are sucked into the paper as it cooks and dries up very quickly before they have a good chance of corroding the metals too much while forming the cell. Once the cell is cooked or zapped and because it becomes SO HOT, all the water will evaporate guaranteeing you the full dry cell inside. Those two (epson and alum) are the crystals to grow. That's why I use the highest safe voltage and high current to zap the cells, for HEAT because resistance. The electrolysis will be for the semi-conductor creation.


Once this first process is done, you will have a dormant cell that still needs activation and that step IS VERY VERY VERY TRICKY. A little bit off will kill the cell and cause corrosion and destroy the cell.


I will explain that second step whey you get the first one really correct. You will know you got the first step correct when you have the zapping done, all water evaporated, a dry cell and NO POWER output which deceives people if they build and see no power, therefore, people give up right there and stop doing that way. You might think that what I am doing is paradoxical. Which is.

In no way stop what you are doing, every test is EXTREMELY VALUABLE, I learn A LOT from your experiments. This IS THE REASON for this thread.

Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2014, 07:28:42 PM »
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Crystal Cell #352 - Nov. 23, 2014
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Fausto Formula F134 - Builds 344-345 - Day 2
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Mass of electrodes - more is good?
« Reply #43 on: November 23, 2014, 10:56:54 PM »
I have always had mixed results with the premise that more mass in the electrodes is better, and have tested a variety of cells with more mass in the anode versus cathode and visa versa. The common thought is that more is better. I am like the kid that sees his brother burn his hand on the stove, but has to do it too to make sure it really IS hot... not just once, but many times... It's tough when you are only able to learn the hard way! lol

I noticed that Bedini tends to push more anode in his old experiments and at the conferences, and although my build #352 with MUCH more anode (copper) has less volts and amps than my build #351 (they have the same mass of cathode - magnesium), the joule thief pulled more out power out of #352. When I hook up a AA battery to this JT, it pulls even more power. I'll probably start using the copper pipes from now on because of this. They also stack easier on my little shelf! We'll find out for sure in the next few weeks!

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Re: Fausto Formula F134 - Builds 344-345 - Day 2
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2014, 01:55:35 AM »
Status: http://youtu.be/TYovcutvUQM


Tx, it is dying as I expected. Interesting how the two are going their ways. Unfortunately that 344 can not be "reactivated" on my second step process.


Later check if she will accept another FC62 (voltage/current cooking process). Sometimes water gets around the electrodes since they are in the center and another zapping will cook the remaining out.


Fausto.

 

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