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synchro1

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #135 on: November 26, 2014, 01:36:58 AM »
Hi sincro, Could you show us a pic of your shpere, I made a a spherical rotor , but mine had a shaft through the center with bearings at each end.
Less talk more action.
Thanks artv

The smaller black "Lenz Propulsion" output spiral coil is doing half the work spinning the magnet sphere at around 50k rpm, and looped back to source raising voltage on the run battery. Meanwhile the charge battery is recovering BEMF from the power coil. I estimate the COP of this setup at 1.3 OU.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asTs_iuUbuM

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #136 on: November 26, 2014, 02:08:46 AM »
MikeR:

You are welcome and thank you for your comments.

Synchro1:

The pot calling the kettle black:

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abusive and insulting language and relentless and senseless badgering.

Stop your compulsive lying.  Stop making a complete and utter fool of yourself.  If you want to talk technical stuff, then open a book or surf the web and start learning something so that when you speak you can say something intelligent instead of mostly talking ridiculous nonsense.  Go see a psychiatrist and tell him that when you go online you assume the persona of an irrational fool in a technical forum when in reality you have almost no technical knowledge or capabilities whatsoever.  Tell your psychiatrist that you insult and badger people repeatedly.  Tell your psychiatrist that you make repeated statements about over unity systems that are not real, they only exist in your fantasies.  Tell your psychiatrist that you need help.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #137 on: November 26, 2014, 03:18:12 AM »
MikeR:

You are welcome and thank you for your comments.

Synchro1:

The pot calling the kettle black:

Stop your compulsive lying.  Stop making a complete and utter fool of yourself.  If you want to talk technical stuff, then open a book or surf the web and start learning something so that when you speak you can say something intelligent instead of mostly talking ridiculous nonsense.  Go see a psychiatrist and tell him that when you go online you assume the persona of an irrational fool in a technical forum when in reality you have almost no technical knowledge or capabilities whatsoever.  Tell your psychiatrist that you insult and badger people repeatedly.  Tell your psychiatrist that you make repeated statements about over unity systems that are not real, they only exist in your fantasies.  Tell your psychiatrist that you need help.

MileHigh

Now your impersonating a doctor. More proof you're just a Quack!

TinselKoala

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #138 on: November 26, 2014, 06:53:24 AM »
Ah what power I have! A miserly compulsive eccentric who cannot even afford store-bought equipment, but I have the power somehow to drive away wealthy kitbuilders from posting and sharing their results!  Showing someone how to make something for free from parts they probably have lying around anyway, rather than them spending fifteen or twentyfive dollars for the _same parts most likely_ in a plastic case, is a major sin around here, I guess.

Hey, people, if you don't like what I say or want to see what I demonstrate, all you have to do is put me on your Ignore list, and then you'll never have to be bothered by my posts again.

Just click on Profile>Account Settings>Modify Profile>Buddies/Ignore List and add me to your Ignore list there.

Or you can run away and blame me when your apparatus doesn't work as you think it will. Be sure to shout some insults as you go! Or... you can attempt to refute me with checkable and valid outside references and/or repeatable demonstrations of your own, either one, your choice.




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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #139 on: November 26, 2014, 07:05:34 AM »
@Minnie,

Your "Stalwarts" tell me my OU claims are false and I'm not selling anything. I'm willing to bet any amount of money I can reproduce my claimed results under strict laboratory test conditions. I don't doubt Mike Kantz can self charge for two hours with his generator. I don't need to buy one, I innovated a better one myself. My setup has only one moving part, a bearingless rotor magnet sphere and does not heat up and conk out like Mike's with 27 pounds of bearing supported magnet rotors. TK sent Scorch on a garbage run to save 15 bucks on a magnet pole detector. TK's a miserly and reclusive eccentric. Other people can afford store bought equipment.

You are claiming "Overunity performance", which means what, to you? To me it means that your device produces more _energy_ out than in, over a reasonable testing period. We all know it does not and that you will try to weasel around the definition, calling something OU when it is really not, just like LTseung does, so you will need to specify, in writing beforehand, just what you mean by "OU" and whether or not it meets, say, the definition of Stefan's OU prize competition or the Puthoff One Watt challenge.

OK, I'll take that bet. How about a Jack-in-the-Box Jumbo Jack with Cheese, as the stake? Even I can afford to bet that much, miserly reclusive eccentric with garage sale equipment that I am.   You submit your claimed device for independent testing by, say, Chet (ramset) and his team, or EarthTech International, or Hathaway Consulting Services, or some other reputable tester and let the chips fall where they may.  Put a time limit on it, so we don't have to wait around too long. Let's say by 1 January 2015, you either prove by independent testing that you have an OU device, or you pay me one cheeseburger. 

Anyone else care to jump in on the wager? I imagine we could pump up the pot to some quite large value, to make it worth Synchro's time and effort... since Boeing and DoD and even Google are evidently ignoring him and his "overunity invention".

synchro1

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #140 on: November 26, 2014, 08:03:55 PM »
You are claiming "Overunity performance", which means what, to you? To me it means that your device produces more _energy_ out than in, over a reasonable testing period. We all know it does not and that you will try to weasel around the definition, calling something OU when it is really not, just like LTseung does, so you will need to specify, in writing beforehand, just what you mean by "OU" and whether or not it meets, say, the definition of Stefan's OU prize competition or the Puthoff One Watt challenge.

OK, I'll take that bet. How about a Jack-in-the-Box Jumbo Jack with Cheese, as the stake? Even I can afford to bet that much, miserly reclusive eccentric with garage sale equipment that I am.   You submit your claimed device for independent testing by, say, Chet (ramset) and his team, or EarthTech International, or Hathaway Consulting Services, or some other reputable tester and let the chips fall where they may.  Put a time limit on it, so we don't have to wait around too long. Let's say by 1 January 2015, you either prove by independent testing that you have an OU device, or you pay me one cheeseburger. 

Anyone else care to jump in on the wager? I imagine we could pump up the pot to some quite large value, to make it worth Synchro's time and effort... since Boeing and DoD and even Google are evidently ignoring him and his "overunity invention".

@Tinselkoala,
 
The hypersonic velocity of my neo spinner makes the "Twin Torus" setup unsafe in my opinion and I never pursued the approach as a consequence. My posts are currently moderated due to a sour exchange with Milehigh on Luc's "Mostly permanent magnet" thread. I uploaded a post to the current "Pulse motor buildoff " thread that should post soon. I discovered two coils that produced "Lenz Propulsion" and overunity. The magnet core variety delivers an even higher OU COP with a much lower and safer "Lenz Delay RPM Threshold". I want you to take a look at the three videos I posted on the other thread and consider the "GAP SYNCHRO"coil pulse motor generator as a collaborative entry from your Laboratory.
 
I could build this pulse motor easily enough, but I don't have the costly test equipment that would satisfy your measurement standards. My test of certainty involves simply looping to source and measuring a rise or drop in voltage. Not enough to convince inveterate skeptics like Milehigh.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #141 on: November 26, 2014, 10:50:31 PM »
@Tinselkoala,

I'm currently happily un-moderated once again after several months of quarantine. I hope we can remain on a polite and gentlemanly standing in the future. Let me point out that a good deal of skill is required to start up and run the "Twin Toroid" Lenz propulsion Bedini circuit. Firstly; The neo sphere rotor requires a pre start and a tricky transfer to the PVC coupling. Secondly; The circuit includes a 100 Ohm relay coil innovated by Jonny Davro, wired to the power potentiometer. Engaging the 12 volt inductor is tricky too. The bearingless rotor begins to speed up as power's reduced over the "Lenz Delay" threshold RPM until the sphere is propelled entirely by the output coil looped back to source. The PVC encased magnet spinner needs to be slid gently and in a timely fashion from the core of the power spiral to the inside core of the output spiral in conjunction with the power shift.  Input to the larger pulse coil is completely shut off. This is where I pick up in the video. It requires skill to achieve this run method. The output coil has no counter current to fight in the circuit. The output coil drives the neo sphere rotor alone, and generates current at the same time. I doubt sending the coil and circuitry to a test laboratory would produce any results without me there to help get it up to speed in self running mode. Once again let me warn everyone that the "Hypersonic Spinner" would fragment into lethal projectiles if it dislodged and hit the floor at that speed like a hand grenade exploding!
 
The other point I want to make is that "Power from the vacuum" involves the quanta mechanics that re-strengthen magnets from the atomic level so the magnet power's replenished rather then depleted through use.   

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #142 on: November 27, 2014, 01:57:01 AM »
Synchro1:

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My posts are currently moderated

So that's why your posts were appearing after the fact.  It didn't occur to me.

It's time for you to turn over a new leaf.  You have a chance for a fresh start.

Any more personal attacks from you and abusive and insulting language and relentless and senseless badgering will be totally unacceptable.  I am strongly advising you to not cross that line.  This does not only include me, you have done the same thing repeatedly to Tinsel Koala and you have probably taken some pot-shots at MarkE and others.

Here is an example of your handy-work that was all directed at me:

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Now your impersonating a doctor. More proof you're just a Quack!
You are truly a deceitful and overbearing monstrosity.
Why not wait until the motor's built and tested before drawing final conclusions you pompous ass!
wicked people like Milehigh
What a QUACK!
Yet even more preposterous malarky from the supercilious fraud:
You are a supercilious and pompous ignoramus of the first degree!

Synchro1:  Will you stop this unacceptable behavior from this point onwards?

Please respond to the question.

You can disagree with me as much as you want.  Likewise, I can disagree with you as much as I want.  However, personal attacks and abusive and insulting language and relentless and senseless badgering will be totally unacceptable.

I can tell you right now, that there is no way that I am going to call you nasty names like "monstrosity" or "fraud" if we are involved in the same thread.  I will give you my honest opinion on technical matters without nasty name calling and personal attacks.  You are going to have to respond on the technical level without stooping low and resorting to personal attacks and abusive and insulting language and relentless and senseless badgering.  You are here to talk about technical stuff and that's what myself and the rest of the people on this forum are expecting from you.

MileHigh

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #143 on: November 27, 2014, 02:53:17 AM »
@Synchro: Sorry, I just don't believe that anybody's posts are being moderated currently. Stefan generally announces such things publicly or by emails to the "guilty" party... do you have such an email notification from him that you can share?

It sounds like you are already backing away from your claim of overunity performance. Simply showing a voltage rise during running is not proof of anything, as any Bedini builder can tell you, once he's ruined a few batteries by pulse-charging them. Many people have seen my hybrid JT voltage rising while it's running an LED at ridiculously low voltage levels, and my Orbette charging up a C-cell while running on a AAA battery. Why don't you just make a video showing your phenomenon _in full_ and we'll see whether I can claim my cheeseburger or not. I'll let you off the hook for your unconsidered "any amount of money" bet, since it's clear that you don't really want to submit to the rigorous independent testing that a serious hundred-thousand-dollar bettor might require.

And here I thought I was a miserly eccentric working with garage sale equipment, too poor to even buy a magnetic polarity indicator ... so you can't afford to put together better kit that what I have available to me? No Clarke-Hess power analyzer, no 4-channel Tek DPSO or 1 GHz LeCroy lurking in your garage or attic? No stroboscopic means of telling that your spinner is _slowing down_ as your measured (how?) voltage rises during unpowered "self looping"? Awwww......   :'(

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #144 on: November 27, 2014, 03:46:17 AM »
@TK and Milehigh,

Where's Scorch?

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #145 on: November 27, 2014, 03:57:52 AM »
@TK and Milehigh,

Where's Scorch?

Trying to deflect isn't going to work.  Scorch chose to leave.  He linked to pseudoscience junk and after being told that he left.  That's life, but that was not a personal attack on him - junk is junk.  If you try to advance your proposition by linking to junk it instead can have the opposite effect.   Scorch can come back any time he wants.

I am waiting for your response to my posting.

MileHigh

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #146 on: November 27, 2014, 05:06:09 PM »
@Milehigh,
 
You got a scalding response from my pioneering deep spin collaborator "Pirate Twin Beard" for cheaply ridiculing his output core acceleration experiments. You can't come up to "Twinbead's" sock tops. You insulted him off the Overunity forum too. I'm going to post a link to his videos because he details the starting procedures I used. Mike Kantz is not defrauding anyone as you inferred.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4WPuzoM-zA&list=PL3055C6B5402E135A
 
Response to Milehigh:
 
twinbeard:
         
         "Yeah, watch the videos that came after that one.  My instrumentation got better as well as the device, and my understanding of the processes evolved.  You will find answers to your objections there, because frankly, I have heard all this crap before.  Quite a few very intelligent people well versed in the applicable physics have seen the device in person, and examined it.  Not one has questioned the frequency of operation, particularly after hearing the air ripping around the rotor, which, alas does not come through in the videos due to ambient noise, the fact that I like to play music while making videos to have a background soundtrack, and the lack of a studio quality mic.  Per friction... it atomizes some of the lubricant, but not all.  Eventually the lexan tube the rotor is housed in fails as a fine powder of lexan is produced over time.  This does not happen in all instances, as occasionally the rotor will essentially suspend inside the housing, causing only air friction. But none of that matters, really, because you opened the conversation by being an asshole.  Learn some manners, and perhaps you might learn something, if that is indeed why you are here.  Time will tell if you a genuine or just another paid shill... a common play from a tired playbook that I am WELL versed in applying countermeasures against".

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #147 on: November 27, 2014, 07:13:33 PM »
I am still waiting for your response to my posting.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #148 on: November 27, 2014, 07:37:06 PM »
@Synchro: Sorry, I just don't believe that anybody's posts are being moderated currently. Stefan generally announces such things publicly or by emails to the "guilty" party... do you have such an email notification from him that you can share?

It sounds like you are already backing away from your claim of overunity performance. Simply showing a voltage rise during running is not proof of anything, as any Bedini builder can tell you, once he's ruined a few batteries by pulse-charging them. Many people have seen my hybrid JT voltage rising while it's running an LED at ridiculously low voltage levels, and my Orbette charging up a C-cell while running on a AAA battery. Why don't you just make a video showing your phenomenon _in full_ and we'll see whether I can claim my cheeseburger or not. I'll let you off the hook for your unconsidered "any amount of money" bet, since it's clear that you don't really want to submit to the rigorous independent testing that a serious hundred-thousand-dollar bettor might require.

And here I thought I was a miserly eccentric working with garage sale equipment, too poor to even buy a magnetic polarity indicator ... so you can't afford to put together better kit that what I have available to me? No Clarke-Hess power analyzer, no 4-channel Tek DPSO or 1 GHz LeCroy lurking in your garage or attic? No stroboscopic means of telling that your spinner is _slowing down_ as your measured (how?) voltage rises during unpowered "self looping"? Awwww......   :'(

@Tinselkoala,

All you do is confuse people about what's taking place in my videos. I run the spinner up inside the core of the power spiral coil until I get "Lenz Propulsion" from the adjacent spiral output coil. Then I nudge the spinner inside the core of the output spiral and shut the power off to the pulse coil and it runs itself from the "Lenz Reversal". Got it? Go ahead and try to find someone to ante up money for the bet.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #149 on: November 27, 2014, 07:57:18 PM »
I am still waiting for your response to my posting.

@Milehigh,

Quote from Piratetwinbeard:
 
"you opened the conversation by being an asshole".