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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #120 on: November 23, 2014, 05:22:19 AM »

(another video making false claims and showing improper measurements)

Nuñez is a shameless self-promoter who is trying to make money selling his products through the use of false claims.

Note that the audio amplifier is _part of the system_ and so the mains input power to the amplifier really should be considered as part of the INPUT power.

Furthermore, Synchro... do you not know what a large degree of Reactive Power looks like on an oscilloscope? Current and voltage out of phase, hence producing "VARs" which cannot be used to power anything? It looks like the screenshot below. If you are impressed with a high degree of VARs, a little bit of wireless power transmission and so forth you need to look at my videos on those topics again, because there is nothing new, not covered by conventional electrodynamics or which support his claims of "overunity" in any of Nuñez's performances.You will never see a proper comparison done by this person, comparing a "rodin coil" with an ordinary coil of the same amount of wire.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #120 on: November 23, 2014, 05:22:19 AM »

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #121 on: November 23, 2014, 07:42:02 AM »
Nuñez is a shameless self-promoter who is trying to make money selling his products through the use of false claims.

Note that the audio amplifier is _part of the system_ and so the mains input power to the amplifier really should be considered as part of the INPUT power.

Furthermore, Synchro... do you not know what a large degree of Reactive Power looks like on an oscilloscope? Current and voltage out of phase, hence producing "VARs" which cannot be used to power anything? It looks like the screenshot below. If you are impressed with a high degree of VARs, a little bit of wireless power transmission and so forth you need to look at my videos on those topics again, because there is nothing new, not covered by conventional electrodynamics or which support his claims of "overunity" in any of Nuñez's performances.You will never see a proper comparison done by this person, comparing a "rodin coil" with an ordinary coil of the same amount of wire.
TK-This cant be faulse cliam's,and the device must work as claimed-->it has LED's :D

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #122 on: November 23, 2014, 06:48:42 PM »
Hello everybody.

I regret to inform you that there appears a preponderance of evidence this forum is no longer the supportive place it used to be for the sharing these new ideas or an experiment such as this.
Including the obvious ongoing, continuous, stream of negativity distractions, arguments, and controversies that are becoming very seriously distracting, time consuming or, otherwise, totally detrimental to these explorations and this creative process to the point of actually being damaging not only to this experiment and these assets but also damaging to many other good people as well.  :(

My experience with this forum and this thread has been entirely negative and totally OPPOSITE of my previous experiences with the other OU thread I participated in years ago where the commenters where always very supportive.

Oh well. Your loss I guess. *shrugs*  8)

If anybody here actually believes in such things as this creative process, these positive explorations of these new sciences, and practical applications of these verifiable physics and math; feel free to continue viewing the progress of this experiment in my FA gallery found here-
www.furaffinity.net/user/scorch/

All links or references to this forum, that were originally in my FA gallery, have now been removed due to all the negativity, controversy, frivolous claims, spam, personal, "school yard bully", behavior and attacks against other inventors and researchers (including those who advertise here), commercial damages or, otherwise, a total failure to provide any substantive, positive, support for the replication and testing of 1 (one) experiment.

I'm out of here.

Kindest regards;

}:>

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #122 on: November 23, 2014, 06:48:42 PM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #123 on: November 23, 2014, 07:14:23 PM »
TK-This cant be faulse cliam's,and the device must work as claimed-->it has LED's :D

Of course it does. That should be proof enough for anyone, right?

Let's review: The Rodin coil video shows a pretty coil device fed by a mains-powered audio amplifier. The power used to run the amplifier is conveniently not measured by the claimant. A single LED is lit a few inches away by field pickup, using another many-turn copper wire coil. The "output" of the Rodin coil is measured to show a few Watts of VARs, non-usable power, which is confirmed on the scope screen to be VARs, very close to 90 degrees phase shift, with some distortion caused by tapping a little bit of real power off to light up -- rather dimly -- the big bank of LEDs.
Right?

Now watch this, one of my microQEG demonstrations, and then tell me again how much "OU" that the Rodin coil makes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkXrhRqlQE4

Note that I don't hide most of the true input power by failing to measure the _audio amplifier_ input power as Nunez does. I don't even have an audio amplifier! I'm drawing less than 2.5 Watts of _straight DC_ in total, not oscillating at high audio frequencies, so there is no doubt about my input power, and the scope shows very clearly some output figures.  And then I power a real load, a DC motor plus an incandescent light bulb, with the output through close _wireless_ coupling while also powering the 3 LEDs at a greater distance with the tuned receptor. Once again, we have a situation where making measurements on MY system in the same way that this "OU" claimant does on HIS system, yields much more "OU" than he has pretended to show. And I think that a little intelligent tuning and driving would even help his system work better, for certain values of "better". 

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #124 on: November 23, 2014, 07:19:50 PM »
Hello everybody.

I regret to inform you that there appears a preponderance of evidence this forum is no longer the supportive place it used to be for the sharing these new ideas or an experiment such as this.
Including the obvious ongoing, continuous, stream of negativity distractions, arguments, and controversies that are becoming very seriously distracting, time consuming or, otherwise, totally detrimental to these explorations and this creative process to the point of actually being damaging not only to this experiment and these assets but also damaging to many other good people as well.  :(

My experience with this forum and this thread has been entirely negative and totally OPPOSITE of my previous experiences with the other OU thread I participated in years ago where the commenters where always very supportive.

Oh well. Your loss I guess. *shrugs*  8)

If anybody here actually believes in such things as this creative process, these positive explorations of these new sciences, and practical applications of these verifiable physics and math; feel free to continue viewing the progress of this experiment in my FA gallery found here-
www.furaffinity.net/user/scorch/

All links or references to this forum, that were originally in my FA gallery, have now been removed due to all the negativity, controversy, frivolous claims, spam, personal attacks against others, commercial damages or, otherwise, a total failure to provide any substantive, positive, support for the replication and testing of 1 (one) experiment.

I'm out of here.

Kindest regards;

}:>
Awww, he's taking his toys and going home. Aww.

Any _really serious_ experimenter would simply respond to the negativity with _proofs_ that the negative commenters are wrong, or at least try to have a serious discussion.  But of course if no such proofs can be made, or the experimenter can't actually discuss the points made by the commenters, maybe dropping out is the only way to save face.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #124 on: November 23, 2014, 07:19:50 PM »
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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #125 on: November 23, 2014, 08:03:27 PM »
Well, free speech is a double-edged sword.  You can't shout out that there is a fire in a crowded movie theater when there isn't one, but you are free to say anything that you think about the movie with your friends afterwards over a coffee.  Likewise if somebody is outside the theater on the street trying to sell "magic elixir water" for $100 a fluid ounce, you might want to engage with them.  You might want to tell them that their water is medical quackery crap and that they shouldn't be selling that nonsense on the street in front of your neighbourhood theater.

Scorch, you put up some links that were pure pseudoscience.  You are not going to get support from that from myself and some others.  Have you been living in a "pseudoscience vacuum" and believing stuff like this without questioning it and without using your critical thinking skills?  That "Rodin coil" stuff has nothing to do with your motor anyway, but you raised the issue yourself.  You were engaged in a debate and like I mentioned to you before, "shockingly" sometimes people are not going to agree with you.  So you can choose to advance your off-topic argument, or simply run away.

It would be cool to see your build progress and see your motor running and see you test it.  But in your posting you complain about "negativity."  You have to earn support by doing good testing and good result reporting.  Instead you are whining about a debate that you yourself were engaged in.  You linked to a TEDx speech by a Rodin coil guy that was truly awful and courter-productive to anybody that would want to experiment with coils and pulse motors.  So are you looking to be cheered on and supported for that?  Sorry, that's not going to happen.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #126 on: November 23, 2014, 09:51:53 PM »
@Feral Hogs,
 
You oppressive Swinehunts managed to do it again with your chronic cynicism, abusive and insulting language and relentless and senseless badgering. Now Scorch, another casualty along with Jim Boot and Conradelectro and countless others. You pigs crowded Scorch off this forum. You're a hideous malignancy. Shame on you!

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #126 on: November 23, 2014, 09:51:53 PM »
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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #127 on: November 24, 2014, 02:12:17 AM »
@Feral Hogs,
 
You oppressive Swinehunts managed to do it again with your chronic cynicism, abusive and insulting language and relentless and senseless badgering. Now Scorch, another casualty along with Jim Boot and Conradelectro and countless others. You pigs crowded Scorch off this forum. You're a hideous malignancy. Shame on you!

Like I said before, you're a synchronously looping über tempest.  I don't even know who Jim Boot is but I sure as hell know that Conradelectro likes me and despises you and you were an annoying nuisance to him.  He asked you repeatedly to stop making a fool of yourself and to stop disrupting his bifilar coil testing thread.  That's probably why he quit the thread, because of you, Synchro1.  It's all there in his thread.  So that makes you a bald-faced liar with your statement above.  Don't even try your "grudge" about me when it comes to Conradelectro too because that's more nonsense from you and another lie.  So go see a shrink and get some help.  Come back acting like an emotionally balanced 50-year-old man that understands how to conduct himself properly.  You have been disrupting this thread also.

It's too bad that Scorch chose to leave.  Among other things, he referenced that obvious fake Rodin coil guy that made a fool of himself at the TEDx talk and never backed his statements up.  It's just real life when you point out problems like that and ideally you face them like a man.  He is welcome to come back and do his tests if he wants to but if he links to stuff that is misleading or not reputable or counter-productive that may be discussed.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #128 on: November 24, 2014, 11:21:37 PM »
@Milehigh,
 
Why do you keep insisting I'm 50 years old when you have no way of knowing my real age? You're the one that needs to have his head examined. You fed a full two pages of pure bunk into this thread about coil cancellation until Tinman called you on it, then you just brushed it off like it didn't matter. The same went for the bifilar tests. I pointed out repeatedly that the coil only exhibits it's special properties when pulsed . The coil self resonates because it includes a native capacitance as everyone well understands. The coil tests out no differently then any other coil when tested with D.C. current. You persisted in deceiving everyone the entire time with that kind of misunderstanding, and covered it up with objectionable personal insults. You are truly a deceitful and overbearing monstrosity. 
« Last Edit: November 25, 2014, 02:05:54 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #128 on: November 24, 2014, 11:21:37 PM »
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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #129 on: November 25, 2014, 03:59:39 PM »
I would like to thank Milehigh, TinselKoala, Tinman and the other down to earth, no bull shit, show me the data folk.  In my ignorance, I almost bought a Mike Kantz device, which would have cost several thousand dollars and days, weeks, months of my time building it.  You all have helped me to understand that a lot of kit is not needed to test ideas and most often anything I can think of...well it's already there to see and done much better than I could ever do it.  So I get some knowledge and truth for free!  That's awesome!

Thank you and please keep up the good work.  I want to know the truth.  I am often unable to see it because I don't know much.  I am admittedly a sucker for a lot of this stuff.  You guys keep me looking in the right direction.

Sincerely
MikeR

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #130 on: November 25, 2014, 07:01:58 PM »
Thanks for the support, MikeR. I encourage people to do their own experimentation, but it's never a good idea to throw good money after bad, as my mother used to say. If someone has the money to spend, fine, it's their money and their time to spend as they like. Their families might not agree....
If you want to build a spinny thing because you like building spinny things, fine, nobody will argue with that. But if you are building because you believe your spinny thing will do something unusual, but there are sound theoretical and practical reasons why it won't... then you should be prepared for critical debate. Nobody on a forum is going to actually be able to prevent anyone from doing what they want to do, but it's ridiculous to blame critics for one's own failures to accomplish some goal. And there are a few things, like the Quanta systems, for which the _seller_ makes claims that are clearly not true. If the builder is building on the basis of believing these false claims made by the promoter, there is something wrong. Gyroscopic inertia generator? The very name is cause for debate.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #130 on: November 25, 2014, 07:01:58 PM »
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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #131 on: November 25, 2014, 07:46:48 PM »
Thanks for the support, MikeR. I encourage people to do their own experimentation, but it's never a good idea to throw good money after bad, as my mother used to say. If someone has the money to spend, fine, it's their money and their time to spend as they like. Their families might not agree....
If you want to build a spinny thing because you like building spinny things, fine, nobody will argue with that. But if you are building because you believe your spinny thing will do something unusual, but there are sound theoretical and practical reasons why it won't... then you should be prepared for critical debate. Nobody on a forum is going to actually be able to prevent anyone from doing what they want to do, but it's ridiculous to blame critics for one's own failures to accomplish some goal. And there are a few things, like the Quanta systems, for which the _seller_ makes claims that are clearly not true. If the builder is building on the basis of believing these false claims made by the promoter, there is something wrong. Gyroscopic inertia generator? The very name is cause for debate.

@Tinselkoala,

You're congratulating yourself for hassling Scorch off his own thread when he was treating us to an actual test build. You are an obnoxious obstructionist. Where's the harm in permitting Scorch from carrying forward with a constructive project that held the promise of producing actual results instead of precluding him from helping with hollow conjecture? How utterly insipid and crass!
 

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #132 on: November 25, 2014, 08:33:49 PM »



   synchro1,
                 just read and understand what the "pigs" are saying and you might learn something.
 They hate to see less wise people getting fleeced. These days there are tools available that
 allow a set-up to be analysed, on paper, without spending a fortune. Remember it's the core
 of stalwarts that keep this thing going,
                            John.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #133 on: November 25, 2014, 09:03:14 PM »


   synchro1,
                 just read and understand what the "pigs" are saying and you might learn something.
 They hate to see less wise people getting fleeced. These days there are tools available that
 allow a set-up to be analysed, on paper, without spending a fortune. Remember it's the core
 of stalwarts that keep this thing going,
                            John.

@Minnie,

Your "Stalwarts" tell me my OU claims are false and I'm not selling anything. I'm willing to bet any amount of money I can reproduce my claimed results under strict laboratory test conditions. I don't doubt Mike Kantz can self charge for two hours with his generator. I don't need to buy one, I innovated a better one myself. My setup has only one moving part, a bearingless rotor magnet sphere and does not heat up and conk out like Mike's with 27 pounds of bearing supported magnet rotors. TK sent Scorch on a garbage run to save 15 bucks on a magnet pole detector. TK's a miserly and reclusive eccentric. Other people can afford store bought equipment.

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Re: Gyroscopic Inertia Generator
« Reply #134 on: November 26, 2014, 12:46:07 AM »
Hi sincro, Could you show us a pic of your shpere, I made a a spherical rotor , but mine had a shaft through the center with bearings at each end.
Less talk more action.
Thanks artv

 

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