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Author Topic: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits  (Read 93160 times)

ramset

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #75 on: October 31, 2014, 08:02:05 PM »
nelsonrochaa


If you have a valid input measurement  and are running a halogen in DUT you can do some very simple tests to establish unusual behavior.


you will need a thermometer and a cardboard box [in addition to Meters for input]


Take your entire setup and place it in a cardboard box with a thermometer [EVERYTHING}


Note temp inside and outside the box ....
start device under test [DUT]


Monitor input power and note inside temperature ,when inside temp no longer rises [for a minute or so]
write down that temp ,this is your fixed loss to ambient temperature .
now repeat test ASAP with just the Halogen and the supply battery at same input power as previous test.[this is called control run]
if temp of DUT went higher than control run you have something to investigate.


running test simultaneous in same conditions [outside] would of course be my choice.


hope this is useful.
respectfully
Chet


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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #76 on: October 31, 2014, 08:16:48 PM »
nelsonrochaa


If you have a valid input measurement  and are running a halogen in DUT you can do some very simple tests to establish unusual behavior.


you will need a thermometer and a cardboard box [in addition to Meters for input]


Take your entire setup and place it in a cardboard box with a thermometer [EVERYTHING}


Note temp inside and outside the box ....
start device under test [DUT]


Monitor input power and note inside temperature ,when inside temp no longer rises [for a minute or so]
write down that temp ,this is your fixed loss to ambient temperature .
now repeat test ASAP with just the Halogen and the supply battery at same input power as previous test.[this is called control run]
if temp of DUT went higher than control run you have something to investigate.


running test simultaneous in same conditions [outside] would of course be my choice.


hope this is useful.
respectfully
Chet

Hi Ramset ,
I appreciate your suggestion and i will try to reproduce that  test because seems interesting measure by this point of view. I can tell that their is not a particularly reason to use the halogen car lamp is only because this particularly lamp need several watts to glow and the voltage drop dramatically if is connected directly in to the battery source, is a way to show the output . In other example (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7EkHm08Te4)i use a 4w 12v car in serie with battery to monitor de amp consumption in the circuit .You can see that lamp not glow ever when a load in the circuit output  a  55W 12v halogen lamp because the power dont come from the load .

thanks for the suggestion

nelsonrochaa

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #77 on: November 01, 2014, 11:56:38 PM »
nelsonrochaa


If you have a valid input measurement  and are running a halogen in DUT you can do some very simple tests to establish unusual behavior.


you will need a thermometer and a cardboard box [in addition to Meters for input]


Take your entire setup and place it in a cardboard box with a thermometer [EVERYTHING}


Note temp inside and outside the box ....
start device under test [DUT]


Monitor input power and note inside temperature ,when inside temp no longer rises [for a minute or so]
write down that temp ,this is your fixed loss to ambient temperature .
now repeat test ASAP with just the Halogen and the supply battery at same input power as previous test.[this is called control run]
if temp of DUT went higher than control run you have something to investigate.


running test simultaneous in same conditions [outside] would of course be my choice.


hope this is useful.
respectfully
Chet

Hi Ramset , i try to make a shots with my new scope. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SALlSg972y8
Its the possible for now.
Thanks 

Arman

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #78 on: November 18, 2014, 01:09:31 PM »
Hi nelsonrochaa,
you haven't shown energy input and energy output. What you have showed that you connect first your circuit to power source and then it accumulates some energy and then you connect the lamp, however you are not showing continues connection of load, and monitoring in power and out power for long period of time. The accurate measurement should take in account the energy in and energy out, where energy= Power * time.

Best Regards
Arman

nelsonrochaa

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #79 on: November 19, 2014, 12:06:26 AM »
Hi nelsonrochaa,
you haven't shown energy input and energy output. What you have showed that you connect first your circuit to power source and then it accumulates some energy and then you connect the lamp, however you are not showing continues connection of load, and monitoring in power and out power for long period of time. The accurate measurement should take in account the energy in and energy out, where energy= Power * time.

Best Regards
Arman
Hi Arman  thanks for your post,
The video that you talk is about recuperation and you have true  about the stored power in the cap and that is the point. How much time and current in the source   you need to storage in caps enough to power   55W halogen bulb with so low power current in source  ? think in that and you will see that i have right .You can see the drop near to zero in the voltage when i connect the lamp direct in the panel.
But you can see in this video to see how the power can be continuous in the output .
I dont have much resources to make measures like i want , and all people want. But you can test , will not be expensive ! WY you don't try make to see by your eyes ?
Thanks Arman and good luck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pf_qUlwSZl0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9daYU4JBMu4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YegRP2521jI

I don't have the needed tools

VMP100

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #80 on: August 05, 2016, 03:17:33 PM »
And IF the replication of this experiment actually does reach a 'dead end', sometime in the future, then I might consider your opinions but, more than likely, I will seek a more neutral, unbiased, authority for assistance now that you have brought so much controversy about said unknown future.

Kindest regards;

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Hello Scorch, Did you finish building the generator? Any good results?

VMP

Scorch

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #81 on: August 05, 2016, 04:58:43 PM »
I did finish building it including the battery powered regulated power supply that was mounted on the back of the unit but was not shown in the original Quanta Magnetics video which has now been removed from youtube...

With said power supply it was indeed possible to demonstrate exactly what was originally demonstrated in the quanta magnetics video as long as battery holds charge. So; results were 'good' to actually replicate the effects depicted but not good in terms of the expectations because this extra power supply was not shown in the video and not disclosed to me until much later and after the facts I spent the money, time and energy.

I subsequently sold the G1 for a fraction of the original investment and moved on to explore other alternative energy interests.

Kindest regards;

Scorch.



Hello Scorch, Did you finish building the generator? Any good results?

VMP

VMP100

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #82 on: August 05, 2016, 05:51:16 PM »

Thanks for your reply Scorch!

Ah I see.

Just to be clear it doesn't provide more watts of power out than in?
Was it not possible to capture some kind of Back EMF pulse to run it more efficiently?

Did you find any other device that does produce over unity?

VMP

Scorch

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #83 on: August 06, 2016, 01:49:21 AM »
I cannot say one way or the other with regards to watts.

After discovery of the component (battery powered regulated power supply) that was hidden from view in the original video, I did start asking some 'hard questions' about this and quanta magnetics basically blew me off and either removed the video or made it private on his youtube channel so I could no longer access it for reference.

And there never was much useful support other than correcting all the errors that were in the original assembly instructions such as a dead shorted alternator... So I completely lost interest in conducting any more experiments and subsequently sold the unit.

Then and on the very day I sold it on Ebay; this video showed up in my reality: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_GUem5ADQs

Seems like a very interesting 'coincidence' that this new experiment came to my attention the very day I was preparing the ship the equipment out so I cannot actually try this particular potential difference charging experiment. Which I find to be very intriguing and wish I had another high efficiency, axial flux alternator to work with but of course; quanta magnetics does not offer a plain alternator kit. . . :P

Kindest regards;

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Thanks for your reply Scorch!

Ah I see.

Just to be clear it doesn't provide more watts of power out than in?
Was it not possible to capture some kind of Back EMF pulse to run it more efficiently?

Did you find any other device that does produce over unity?

VMP

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Re: Quanta Magnetics Experimental Kits
« Reply #84 on: August 07, 2016, 02:01:57 AM »
Hey there Scorch,

Interesting video, hope the tests & measurements are right. Then it would mean that the device has OU.
I see on his channel that he also makes (supposedly) self charging batteries, I am looking forward to replicating something like that.

You can make an Axial Flux generator yourself.
I have been thinking of making something similar, here is a video of an Axial Flux generator: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahs2pM10xQU

I think they sell kits too if you live in the US, I read on their site that they don’t ship internationally. I live in Europe so I would have to ask a metal company to make two of those discs.
I would like to run such a generator and do some tests.

I have two of these round metal baking plates: https://www.amazon.com/OvenStuff-Non-Stick-Inch-Round-Piece/dp/B001BCNT3Q
They should work to do some simple tests.

Those super capacitors (BMOD0058 E016 B02 Maxwell) on the video looks interesting but they are out of my budget range. I have seen different DIY supercapacitor videos on youtube.  I am looking into making my own supercapacitors, their size is not an issue.

VMP
« Last Edit: August 07, 2016, 04:04:17 AM by VMP100 »