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New theories about free energy systems => Theory of overunity and free energy => Topic started by: Panul on October 13, 2014, 04:48:55 PM
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Here I want to make a thread about the greek physicist and mathematician professor Panos Pappas. He claims he disproved Einstein, Maxwell and pretty much most modern physics, he is a fan of tesla and ampere and claims to have the correct and complete theory for electromagnetism, which he calls ampere-pappas theory. whats your opinions on his ideas? he also claims to have made a machine named papimi that heals with nanopulses and is sold all over the world and not only that but its also a form of a free enrgy device! (or at least holds the potential for the design of such a device)
http://www.panospappas.gr/ look only at the "science" parts and not pay attention to the national conspiracy theories.
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The headache inducing web site is a hideous ode to Homer Simpson. I didn't see any actual scientific argument.
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The headache inducing web site is a hideous ode to Homer Simpson. I didn't see any actual scientific argument.
why dont you have a public debate with prof. pappas if you are so certain about your claims. playing smartass with simpson jokes is easy, contributing is hard. in fact he has quite many proofs and suggestions there. maybe you didnt understand them? from now on i will report any comment that doesnt contradict (or complement) with maths or logical arguments his claims.
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why dont you have a public debate with prof. pappas if you are so certain about your claims. playing smartass with simpson jokes is easy, contributing is hard. in fact he has quite many proofs and suggestions there. maybe you didnt understand them? from now on i will report any comment that doesnt contradict (or complement) with maths or logical arguments his claims.
I wasn't able to find any actual argument to discuss in that mess of a foaming at the mouth "Jew conspiracy", "I am the reincarnation of Ampere" mess of a web site.
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The headache inducing web site is a hideous ode to Homer Simpson. I didn't see any actual scientific argument.
Ouch. The first clue that you are dealing with... shall we say... an extreme eccentric, is the scroll elevator bar on the right side of your browser window. Notice that a single screen is only a tiny fraction of that ONE web page. This is the internet equivalent of the run-on sentence that just meanders from point to point, sprinkling in lots of adjectives and adverbs to greatly enhance the reading pleasure of the poor innocent person who is just trying to get to whatever real point might be buried amongst the many different typefaces (a typographical layout no-no which only distracts the reader and might even wind you up with unbalanced parenthetical statements that divert the line of the sentence from the original topic which was what ,exactly, but nobody really knows or cares and then whenever someone objects to this totally unreadable style they get insulted by the Great Scientist's sycophants who really just want to make some kind of point but wind up arguing with experts from a position of ignorance instead.
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Ouch. The first clue that you are dealing with... shall we say... an extreme eccentric, is the scroll elevator bar on the right side of your browser window. Notice that a single screen is only a tiny fraction of that ONE web page. This is the internet equivalent of the run-on sentence that just meanders from point to point, sprinkling in lots of adjectives and adverbs to greatly enhance the reading pleasure of the poor innocent person who is just trying to get to whatever real point might be buried amongst the many different typefaces (a typographical layout no-no which only distracts the reader and might even wind you up with unbalanced parenthetical statements that divert the line of the sentence from the original topic which was what ,exactly, but nobody really knows or cares and then whenever someone objects to this totally unreadable style they get insulted by the Great Scientist's sycophants who really just want to make some kind of point but wind up arguing with experts from a position of ignorance instead.
useless comment. i consider you no kind of expert since the only thing you talked about is the site's structure not the scientific theories that are proposed. are you so sensitive that you cant go through some "headache" to see if there is actual substance in his words? im noones sycophant you pull conspiracy theories out of your butt a strong indication of your own prejudice and imaturity. i'm really interested though in that machine of his that he claims can achieve 120% to 2000% overunity, and his ampere-pappas theory of eletromagnetism.
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http://panospappas.gr/osc.htm
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Feel free to insult me all you like, I don't care. It's not going to make your dreams come true, and it's not going to turn Pappas into anything other than what he is. You think he's got a device that is OU, fine, go build it, test it and report your results here. You think he's got a better theory than QED and Maxwell's Equations, fine, demonstrate that by using his theory to design something and show that it behaves according to him and not according to Feynman. You asked for comments on the link you posted... and you got them. You don't have to like them or agree with them but unless you can _refute them_ you might as well just stick to your insults and complaints, for all the effect you have on anything.
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i don't have the money to test them. i would. we are a relatively poor family that barely makes it. why don't YOU try it and show us the results. all the maths are correct though. i've studied hos works and there is nothing mathematical i can refute. as for the contradictions to some popular physics theories its simply because these theories are wrong and lacking. and pappas along many others have proven that already.
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i don't have the money to test them. i would. we are a relatively poor family that barely makes it. why don't YOU try it and show us the results. all the maths are correct though. i've studied hos works and there is nothing mathematical i can refute. as for the contradictions to some popular physics theories its simply because these theories are wrong and lacking. and pappas along many others have proven that already.
What have you done so wrong in life that made you the way you are?
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Isn't it happening all the time; Someone claims he has discovered OU, but does not have the money. They ar all very ill, on the droorstep to death, very very poor as well. And ofcourse ask someone else to build and test.
I can say this: OU does not exist in our world. If it did, practically everything could be OU. This worlds physics does not have potential for OU, and therefor will never exist no matter how you put parts together.
The closest to OU we can get is the sun. Harness its energy and you'll have free energy for at least the next 5 billion years. No one needs to spend their life, money and work into building something that isn't supplied with an energy source.
Vidar
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What have you done so wrong in life that made you the way you are?
what an inhibited and poisonous comment. what have you done to be the poisonous viper you developed into? you mammas boy born in feathers and silk. in case you didnt know most people born in poor families, die poor. im a mere worker that makes a few money barely to live. and i didnt even start a family yet cause my parents still need my economical aid. life wasnt so easy for everyone kiddo.
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Isn't it happening all the time; Someone claims he has discovered OU, but does not have the money. They ar all very ill, on the droorstep to death, very very poor as well. And ofcourse ask someone else to build and test.
I can say this: OU does not exist in our world. If it did, practically everything could be OU. This worlds physics does not have potential for OU, and therefor will never exist no matter how you put parts together.
The closest to OU we can get is the sun. Harness its energy and you'll have free energy for at least the next 5 billion years. No one needs to spend their life, money and work into building something that isn't supplied with an energy source.
Vidar
wrong. in the center of the sun only a 25% is from nuclear reactions 75% is from what we call genic energy. there is overunity in that universe. no doubt about it. as there are superluminal speeds and ampere's energy. do not bite the propaganda so easily...
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Quote from http://panospappas.gr/university.htm (http://panospappas.gr/university.htm):
"Notice 0, The left or entering electron end effect is always accelerating, favouring our conclusions and results for the creation or excess energy."
I understand that in this case a grid placed on electron path attracts this electron and thus accelerates it until it reaches the grid. However, the same attraction works on both sides of the grid, so, the attraction force from the grid still makes an influence on the electron and decelerates it after passing the grid. Thus all the energy gained on left side of the grid is lost while on the right side.
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Quote from http://panospappas.gr/university.htm (http://panospappas.gr/university.htm):
"Notice 0, The left or entering electron end effect is always accelerating, favouring our conclusions and results for the creation or excess energy."
I understand that in this case a grid placed on electron path attracts this electron and thus accelerates it until it reaches the grid. However, the same attraction works on both sides of the grid, so, the attraction force from the grid still makes an influence on the electron and decelerates it after passing the grid. Thus all the energy gained on left side of the grid is lost while on the right side.
The orbit is like a circle or an arc of a circle. the Force exerted on the electron is always vertical to the direction of its speed, thus the magnetic field neither adds or takes energy from the subject. the speed u can be analysed in the ux and uy. uy is the extra speed added in every loop, it is excess energy being created. All the added screen is doing to correct and control the end effect of the field on the right of the capacitor. The end effect of the capacitor is affecting velocity U to a small extend, depending on the vertical position, of the electron, going out of this capacitor, whether it is closer or less closer to the separated positive plate from the negative one. Using the screen this vertical position of the electron dependency is eliminated. Provided, the particular electron is not hitting the solid metal grid of the screen by pure chance, and it is not absorbed by or distorted by the solid metal grid of this screen.
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The orbit is like a circle or an arc of a circle. the Force exerted on the electron is always vertical to the direction of its speed, thus the magnetic field neither adds or takes energy from the subject. the speed u can be analysed in the ux and uy. uy is the extra speed added in every loop, it is excess energy being created. All the added screen is doing to correct and control the end effect of the field on the right of the capacitor. The end effect of the capacitor is affecting velocity U to a small extend, depending on the vertical position, of the electron, going out of this capacitor, whether it is closer or less closer to the separated positive plate from the negative one. Using the screen this vertical position of the electron dependency is eliminated. Provided, the particular electron is not hitting the solid metal grid of the screen by pure chance, and it is not absorbed by or distorted by the solid metal grid of this screen.
What kind of mechanism causes the acceleration?
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Well, it must be a total miracle then that CRTs work at all, since their electron beams travel in _straight lines_ due to being accelerated by the _electric field_ between the cathode (at the gun) and the grids and anode (at the display screen), and are curved or deflected into the scan pattern only by the _magnetic fields_ of the deflection coils and adjustment magnets.
Panul, please read this page carefully before you start trying to describe how electrons actually move in magnetic and electric fields.
http://www.schoolphysics.co.uk/age16-19/Atomic%20physics/Electron%20physics/text/Electron_motion_in_electric_and_magnetic_fields/index.html (http://www.schoolphysics.co.uk/age16-19/Atomic%20physics/Electron%20physics/text/Electron_motion_in_electric_and_magnetic_fields/index.html)
Charged particles move in parabolas if projected into an electric field in a direction at right angles to the field.
Charged particles move in straight lines and accelerate (or decelerate) if projected into an electric field along the direction of the field.
In a basic triode vacuum tube, the electrons are emitted by the cathode, are accelerated by the electric field potential difference between the cathode and the anode, and are _controlled_ or modulated by what is happening at the grid. The grid absorbs more or less of the accelerated electrons depending on the voltage applied to it and the frequency with which that voltage is varied.
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What kind of mechanism causes the acceleration?
http://panospappas.gr/osc4.htm
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According to: http://panospappas.gr/osc4.htm (http://panospappas.gr/osc4.htm):
"Cathode and anode are both grounded to zero potential. An electron with kinetic energy received by the heated cathode approaches the neutral anode. There on the anode, by induction, opposite positive charges, are accumulated, which attract and accelerate the electron. The electron passes the new hole again, which a negative concetretic negative ring is placed, as shown. The negative ring repells and farther accelerates the electron to the right towards the next anode. The whole process is repeated, increasing the velocity of the electron, farther and farther,..., making U0, <U1., < U2,< U3."
My question to Panul: can you describe more exactly the mechanism of the anode build-up (of the opposite charges) with induction? As I understand, the build-up gains-on before the stream of electrons reach it; is it possible that induction comes first, before the electrons reach it? And is this build-up strong enough to make potential difference higher and higher on each consecutive stage? Is this build-up influenced by this stream of electrons or it's independent? I'm really confused here.
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To be clear:
though this guy does not state this clearly, my understanding is that he claims that mere POLARITY DIFFERENCE, not necessarily POTENTIAL DIFFERENCE is essential to accelerate a stream of electrons in a CRT (Cathode Ray Tube) and thus get Free Energy.
While the normal/original CRT operation relies on quite a lot of energy PROVIDED TO IT and the purpose of CRT was/is quite different and certainly not in the field of saving or producing energy. What does not mean that this kind of device cannot be used otherwise in such a search. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray_tube (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathode_ray_tube)
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a little candy for those that still believe einstein was anything more than a scam. or that the standard "electrodynamic" model has no room for criticism.
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a simple idea : how long vacuum tube can work continously ?
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a simple idea : how long vacuum tube can work continously ?
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4864-donald-smith-devices-too-good-true-349.html#post267675
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another two interesting sites:
http://starburstfound.org/ (groundbreaking shift of our standard perception of the physical reality from a scientist that dedicated his life to research)
http://extraluminaltransmission.com/ (exceptional electrical engineer and expert on tesla technologies)
the reign of lies and supression is over. the dictatorship of propaganda and physics' well preserved and overprotected "holy cow" relativity are over as well. (pretty soon that will happen for all the pseudoscientific highly brainstormed lies in various scientific fields. modern cosmology, macroevolution in biology, anthropology, paleontology, psychoanalysis, economic and social theory etc. by different experts each time of course).