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Offline pomodoro

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2014, 02:21:49 PM »
Quick update.

I spent some time making different inductors, and the best, with a Q of 100 was an AM radio ferrite loop antenna. Others , including a pot core ferrite which gave me a huge  800uH with just 12 turns of enamelled wire had a Q of 50. The copper coil in the pictures  was much also better with caps of less capacitance than  the 0.25uF I previously used and also had a Q of 100. I only experimented with the AM antenna, which I resonated with a cap of about 100pF from memory.

Unfortunately, when I surrounded the coil  of the ferrite antenna with the U salt there was no improvement in the Q when the LC circuit was pulsed. 

I also tried putting the U salt in a plastic vial and waving close to an AM  radio tuned to a faint radio station, just as in the pdf I uploaded, but there was no improvement.

I had a quick look at the mCElrath cold cathode tube patent,  I was looking for some value for the current, between the cathode and anode, because the currents available with radioactive sources are incredibly small. For his tubes to be useful he would have had to have worked some magic as there is no way normal radioactive elements could give milliamps of current.  Any ideas...


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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #75 on: October 07, 2014, 02:21:49 PM »

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #76 on: October 07, 2014, 05:46:52 PM »
Quick update.

I spent some time making different inductors, and the best, with a Q of 100 was an AM radio ferrite loop antenna. Others , including a pot core ferrite which gave me a huge  800uH with just 12 turns of enamelled wire had a Q of 50. The copper coil in the pictures  was much also better with caps of less capacitance than  the 0.25uF I previously used and also had a Q of 100. I only experimented with the AM antenna, which I resonated with a cap of about 100pF from memory.

Unfortunately, when I surrounded the coil  of the ferrite antenna with the U salt there was no improvement in the Q when the LC circuit was pulsed. 

I also tried putting the U salt in a plastic vial and waving close to an AM  radio tuned to a faint radio station, just as in the pdf I uploaded, but there was no improvement.

I had a quick look at the mCElrath cold cathode tube patent,  I was looking for some value for the current, between the cathode and anode, because the currents available with radioactive sources are incredibly small. For his tubes to be useful he would have had to have worked some magic as there is no way normal radioactive elements could give milliamps of current.  Any ideas...

Hi
I just remembered that Bruce Perrault was always saying that it never worked.
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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #77 on: October 11, 2014, 01:44:09 PM »
The pics show how there is no improvement in the Q of the coil when bathed in Uranium salt.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #78 on: October 13, 2014, 01:59:31 PM »
More tests!
Uranium salt now inside a coil. The uranyl nitrate is touching the bare copper. Thin wax tape on the outside keeps it inside the coil. LC Q is about 30x5 , according to kator's method,or 150.
C is about 300pF for best Q.

Compare decay of oscillations with and without the uranium.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #79 on: October 13, 2014, 05:46:07 PM »
Is there a difference?

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #80 on: October 14, 2014, 02:04:58 AM »
There is no difference. I'm going to charge the cap to a few thousand volts and discharge it through the coil next, to see if a strong magnetic field is required. If that doesn't give a tiny improvement in the Q then my personal conclusion is that Brown probably never had a working version either.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #81 on: October 14, 2014, 02:33:21 AM »
You can't say that for certain pomodoro.Brown used beryllium in his alloy thus it must be important.neutrons are the one thing that will interact with just about any matter wether slow or fast.mix a beryllium salt with your uranium salt and see what happens.neutrons penetrate.alphas dont

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #82 on: October 14, 2014, 06:27:47 AM »
Not true profitis. Brown's patent is about alpha sources only. He uses 1mg of radium, some powdered thorium in a cardboard box!! and uranium rods. The powdered thorium burns in air but never mind that slip up. A year later, at a convention he forgets completely about this incredible 9kw invention and discusses the beta battery you mention. The beta battery is much weaker in power. No development of the patent battery is ever mentioned again. Money from investors comes in but a working model is never shown. Sorry but it smells fishy to me. Moray is far more credible.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #83 on: October 14, 2014, 08:36:22 AM »
I don't think moray is any more or less credible than the next,we can only speculate until we hit on the facts.let's go back to basics: moray had uranium metal,bismuth,and a string of semiconductors shoved in a tube.he also had some sort of arial attatched to this conglomerate.what was going on in that tube? Semi-conductors job is to rectify,rectify what? Bismuths job is an neutron shield and alpha source post bombardment,alpha source post bombardment..alpha source post bombardment..

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #84 on: October 14, 2014, 08:44:53 AM »
You should be meausuring the uranium's geiger activity while pulsing it with electromagetism pomodoro.you might not register a change in the coils capacitance but you might register a change in geiger activity

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #85 on: October 14, 2014, 08:49:26 AM »
You should be examining f.e.t. too.field enhanced thermionic emissions of uranium.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #86 on: October 14, 2014, 01:51:15 PM »
The increase in charged emission is supposed to be measured by an increase in the Q.  I will rig up the geiger counter underneath the coil to check the difference. However a bigger problem has surfaced.  To put some descent power through the coil, I have a 15kV 100pF capacitor being charged up to about 9 kV and a spark gap which discharges into the coil.  The big problem is that the circuit that once had a Q of 150 now is lucky to have a Q of 10. The reason being that the spark gap chews up all the power. So instead of a massive current peak through the coil, the spark acts as a resistor.  How do I get over this hurdle?  Using a mouse trap as a fast switch didnt help either.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #87 on: October 14, 2014, 02:10:45 PM »
The goal is to basicly hysterisis the paramagnetic domains in the salt to the point that the atoms get angry,unstable.I'm not sure if it will even be registerable on the Q-scope but might be registerable on the geiger.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #88 on: October 16, 2014, 07:50:02 PM »
Hello folks,

just was busy with other things but I do not forget this topic here.

No difference ? I see a distinct difference but not where I expected it.

You have to look at the envelope of the damped oscillation
The nourane-oscillation shwows a more rugged or better irregular damping.
See edited pic.

The urane-socillation is much more smooth.

But in order to be sure about this one would nee a similar nitride wich is non-radioactive, because using a crystal
as core-material might offer some unsuspected effects.

I agree with profitis : any of those inventors like moray, Floyd Sweet, Stanley Meyer etc can not be trusted because the CIA has taken over the control of information presented at the web and elsewhere.
This is the reason why we have to be the pioneers again ( reinventing the wheel) no other way. Lot of work

By the way, pomodoro, why do you use such a high voltage burst as the effect might be well
hidden under this powerful energy-level you apply here ?

I would use the rc-trigger-method presented in the german paper. trigger with an squarewave-signal and use a
copper-coil ( 3 windings max ) as a trigger-coil - magnetic loose coupling to your LC-tank.

Edit: some other user posted this here in teh Helium4-Thread ( because Profitis talked about beryllium )
 http://www.qsl.net/k0ff/Manipulating%20Neutrons%20in%20the%20Home%20Rad%20Lab/

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #89 on: October 24, 2014, 01:40:09 PM »
Thanks for the help kator and profitis but after trying many more experiments including some with thorium compounds I was unable to notice anything OU. If Brown really did build a NRB then the secret died with him.
After a small break I will tackle the Correa abnormal discharge tubes, as the patents are quite detailed. Keep an eye out for that one in a few weeks, as I work my way to building one of Morays sparking condensers.

 

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