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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #60 on: October 02, 2014, 02:05:02 PM »
Nope.Chlorine gas liberated at anode by radiation will simply re-oxidize NO2- ion pomodoro.its cyclic.here's a simpler chemistry based on I2/I- redox system:

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #61 on: October 02, 2014, 02:17:47 PM »
I'm going to google quik to find out about a method to plate for your experiment pomodoro.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #62 on: October 02, 2014, 02:39:47 PM »
The best that I can come up with is to bake a thick syrup of that nitrate around those wires.all nitrates decompose to oxides at a certain temp.the uranyl ion UO2- appears to be highly electropositive much like other rare-earths (lanthanum etc)

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #63 on: October 02, 2014, 05:10:42 PM »
What about plating?

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #64 on: October 02, 2014, 05:13:19 PM »
@pomodoro,

your scope shows a frequency of about 170 KHz. Can you please tell me the value of your capacitor ? I am not sure if it reads 0.33 µF.

 
The coil made from copper-foil in pic IMG_20140930_114027.jpg  will have enormeus self-capacitance so you will have capacitive losses and increase the bandwidth of the LC-tank. This coil is not feasible for this test.

Do you have an inductance-meter ?

My first impression is - if the value of C is 330 nF - that the L/C Realtionship is inappropiate.in pic  ring2.jpg I see a coil of very low inductance.
So the reactance of this coil is way too big for fg = 170 KHz, meaning that ist can not store enough magnetic  energy for a good oscillation.

I will give you an example for a L/C-realation I had build:

Copper-coil line the one in pic  ring2.jpg, same thickness of wire ( about 2 mm in diameter) , winding-diameter 20 to 25 mm, number of windings about 30. I didnt measure teh inductance with a meter.

LC-tank using this coil was build wit a 10 pF capacitor( ceramic )

This LC-tank was first shown to me by a professional engineer and hat a resonance-frequency of about 30 Megacycles !

So if you do not have lower values of capacitors ( aiming at this frequency) you will need a much bigger coil which can not be build without ferrite-core.

But please be patient I will come back later with more detailed information about certain core-material to use, just had a conversation with a specialist in electronic.

This setup will not serve your purpose

@profitis: wow where did you get this drawing of the Curie-Cell from ? Do you think it will work for Thoriumoxide ?

But I have to confess that I d o not know what kind of thorium-salt is used in these gas-mantle.

Just did some research and found this in the german Wikipediea: the gas-mantle was soaked in a solution of Cerium-nitrate and Thorium-nitrate. If burned,  CeO2 and Th2O2 remains in this feeble burned structure ( picture at the right )

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Gluestrumpf2.jpg

So we could simply put into distilled water.

What do you say ?



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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #65 on: October 02, 2014, 05:41:03 PM »
@pomodoro I'm not sure about plating but there's got to be a way to electrodeposit UO2.seperating the uranium from the stable uranyl (UO2 ++) ion is a monster task so its going to have to be a glazed coat of oxide.I'm wondering how such a coat on thin-thin nichrome wire would affect resistance? @kator its easiest to just geta hold of uraninite or thorite minerals from ebay or mineral/gem supplier then dissolve in HCI or HNO3 to get desired salt for testing purposes.I drew those diagrams now but the idea was from years ago when I was testing rubidium/potassium for current.I actualy don't have any thorite or uraninite in stock but I will try get hold from gem suppliers here.use only tiny bit iodine crystals in that cell otherwize you swamp the anode with too fast corrosi.actually you don't even need the iodine,just natrium iodide(NaI)or KI,and some uranium or thorium chloride,iodide,nitrate,bromide,acetate.any soluble compound.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #66 on: October 03, 2014, 02:07:03 AM »
@Kator 

i wont be able to work on this till early next week, but yes I do have  a L and C meter.  The cap is 0.25uF but I think its more like 0.22 from memory and the new coil is just over 2uH.

Yes i do have some lower value caps, like the ones used in tube amplifier finals. pFs.

I was also under the impression that ferrite and iron cores are a bit lossy compared to air?

I have some powdered iron toroid cores, amidon red, good for 1kw and smaller ferrite ones, yellow but may not be amidon brand.

Regarding the thorium, I don't think its very active. Youtube videos show little activity when a geiger counter is put next to the mantles.

@profitis: The uranium would only turn a thin layer of the silver chloride back to silver. The water molecules would also absorb most of the alphas.


Guys there is a patent out there, which has been mentioned on this group before, that talks of copper oxide being important for the conversion of radium energy into electrons.

http://www.google.com/patents/EP2505807A2?cl=en

Something to look into if the uranium on copper doesn't work.

Also check out the Lemeir test with radium near an antenna. Its available as a pdf on the web.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #67 on: October 03, 2014, 09:10:48 AM »
True pomodoro.uranium is puny-shit BUT it also releases gammas,x-rays,imagine tritium/radium infron.I think the way to go with uranium is to do a curie-style step-up enhancement of activity by exposure to other non-radio elements which undergo transmute then much more rapid decay.in other words uranium's neutrons or alphas are say 3Mev energy each,when they hit other element eg Bi they transmute to eg polonium with much faster decay but less Mev(perhaps Kev) hence bismuth will become more radio-active than the uranium to begin with.brown had beryllium in his sheet,maybe this is the key because alphas+ beryllium= neutrons=cascade transmute of gues what,copper

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #68 on: October 03, 2014, 09:17:11 AM »
Do you have any beryllium carbonates/oxides pomodoro.mix with the uranium?do you have a geiger. Omg..have a look at this http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/beryllium_copper is actually used for springs/tools

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #69 on: October 03, 2014, 11:20:31 AM »
Bit too creepy for me. I can't detect neutrons with the Geiger counter.  So I guess anyone can make a neutron/beta source! Americium from smoke detectors and a thin beryllium copper shimming material.

If the uranium doesn't help the coil I'll start making uranium doped diodes and capacitors.

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #70 on: October 03, 2014, 11:50:01 AM »
Check for radiolysis of water too.drop a piece titanium metal into conc UO2(NO3)2 an look for tiny bubbles on surface.I'm playing around with this in the pic below.I've found no use for it yet

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #71 on: October 03, 2014, 03:11:09 PM »
These files are worth reading

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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #72 on: October 03, 2014, 09:24:07 PM »
Pomodora,

the two Moray-Files are empty. It seems that there is problem with uploading files in both of stephans forums. In the german forum a similar problem occured more than one time.

Here is the Ferrite-Core-material ( N27, Siemens ), no airgap, AL 3900 nH, unfortunately a german supplier. But this gives you an idea what to look for.
http://www.ebay.at/itm/1-Satz-E-Kerne-1xOber-1xUnterteil-EC-70-34-17-Ferritkerne-AL-3900-nH-Frri-005-/361066772261?pt=Bauteile&hash=item541141b725

My friend told me the there is a misconception even among radio- and Ham-amateuers that only an air-core can reach a high Q. I have to confess I didnt know it either that you can achieve with this core-material a Q up to 2000 !
One additional thing you have to know in order to get the best Q: do just on winding-layer in the middle-section, very thight to the core.

Than use different cap-values to get maximum of amplitude.


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Re: Nuclear Resonat Battery test soon to come
« Reply #73 on: October 05, 2014, 09:15:56 AM »
Thanks Kator, will turn my attention to ferrite coils now. If the ferrites I have are no good I will try the N27.  I may need to miniaturize everything if the U does nothing and try Am from a smoke detector which is the closest thing we have to Radium these days. Radium being 5 million times as strong as U.

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« Reply #74 on: October 05, 2014, 10:24:13 PM »
Pomodoro,

I thought they have Americium inside. You have to check this before you buy these

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americium

Yes, use ferrite-cores for a test but be sure that you have no air-gap. I have just found this one supllier here in germany for these Siemens-Cores. could not find any other on ebay.

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