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Author Topic: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions  (Read 355894 times)

Offline Pirate88179

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1650 on: January 26, 2015, 05:30:30 AM »
@Mark
I guess what I should have said was you seem like an intelligent person and I think you have a lot to offer but I don't understand why you picking posts apart versus trying to move the conversation forward. I know I have and continue to do the same thing sometimes as well as many others here but I have come to understand it is pointless. In fact it is kind of amazing that "We" as responsible adults could act like this and I'm sure even our children would find it it embarassing to know their parents would act like this.
This place just boggles my mind that a group of supposedly responsible adults cannot seem to get along and debate the issues rationally, we can do better I think. I am going to make the effort to change and I would hope others would consider it as well.
 
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AC:

Discussing is very good, arguing is not productive.

I too will try to do better.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1650 on: January 26, 2015, 05:30:30 AM »

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1651 on: January 26, 2015, 05:33:25 AM »
AC:

Discussing is very good, arguing is not productive.

I too will try to do better.

Bill

Careful, looks like he's got an opening in his arse kissing schedule.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1652 on: January 26, 2015, 05:49:04 AM »
So dose this circuit have one or two components?-transistor + another component,or just the 1 single lousy component?.
Technically, MH's circuit had three components:  An ideal voltage source, a switch and the inductor.
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MH-you have not provided enough information for us to ascertain as to wether the mechanic can survice our car or not.
1-Is the mechanic old school or new school?-is he apt with the metric or the imperial?.
2-what is the make and modle of this car,so as we know if it is a metric or imperial fitted vehicle.
3-You have stated metric as one,but what is the imperial scale you are refering to>?
A-Whitworth
B-BSF
C-BA
D-AF

For us to be able to make an accurate assumption of wether or not the mechanic can service our car with confidence,PLEASE include all the details we need to make this assumption ;)
If the mechanic doesn't knw the difference between metric and imperial, he probably doesn't know much about cars.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1652 on: January 26, 2015, 05:49:04 AM »
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Offline MarkE

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1653 on: January 26, 2015, 05:52:18 AM »
@Mark
I guess what I should have said was you seem like an intelligent person and I think you have a lot to offer but I don't understand why you picking posts apart versus trying to move the conversation forward.
If fundamental falsities are not addressed, then it is just a trip down someone's garden path.  Is that what you want?
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I know I have and continue to do the same thing sometimes as well as many others here but I have come to understand it is pointless. In fact it is kind of amazing that "We" as responsible adults could act like this and I'm sure even our children would find it it embarassing to know their parents would act like this.
This place just boggles my mind that a group of supposedly responsible adults cannot seem to get along and debate the issues rationally, we can do better I think. I am going to make the effort to change and I would hope others would consider it as well.
 
AC
At various times people have lodged allegations against me for supposedly doing things such as "twisting" their words.  When I have asked for examples of the alleged bad behavior I none have been cited.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1654 on: January 26, 2015, 05:55:17 AM »
Don't rise to the troll's bait...he's not worth the time or effort.

Regards...


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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1654 on: January 26, 2015, 05:55:17 AM »
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Offline tinman

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1655 on: January 26, 2015, 06:08:14 AM »
Technically, MH's circuit had three components:  An ideal voltage source, a switch and the inductor.
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If the mechanic doesn't knw the difference between metric and imperial, he probably doesn't know much about cars.
So todays digital service technicians who dont know all about analog systems are probably crap at there job as well?.

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1656 on: January 26, 2015, 06:30:07 AM »
Tinman:

Chris' failure to answer the question about the simple circuit with only a single inductor connected to a power supply took place about two weeks ago in this thread.  Mark answered it after Chris ran out of gas.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1657 on: January 26, 2015, 06:42:03 AM »
Tinman:

Chris' failure to answer the question about the simple circuit with only a single inductor connected to a power supply took place about two weeks ago in this thread.  Mark answered it after Chris ran out of gas.

MileHigh

Chris could not tolerate the tag team trolling of the forum dingo trolls...which is why they do it that way = $ucess !

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1658 on: January 26, 2015, 06:50:59 AM »
Just go read the thread again and see Chris desperately trying to answer the simple question.  It's about qualifying people to see if they are credible when they say they understand electronics and are here to "teach."

So your statement is just pure spin again.  Do that more and you will start to hate yourself for being exactly like the people you that imagine in your head that you despise.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1659 on: January 26, 2015, 07:00:58 AM »
I bet this doosh can close his own loop, and the brown ring around his neck is the evidence.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1660 on: January 26, 2015, 07:04:23 AM »
You need a new car to bust the bad boys Mr. Zero:

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1661 on: January 26, 2015, 07:14:31 AM »
Didn't realize I was dealing with an adolescent troll.

Its encouraging to see that the cabal is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Regards...

 

Offline allcanadian

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1662 on: January 26, 2015, 07:31:54 AM »
@tinman
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Some are stuck fast in the dogma that is common physics,and have no room for
change. They see what has been shown to work around a few basic test,and decide
that there is no need to look any further. This can be seen with the magnetic
field-things work around there theories of the magnetic field,so that's that,no
need to look any further. But it is clear that they have missed something some
where along the line,as there is still no answer to basic questions we ask about
the magnetic force. One would think if there modle and understanding was
correct,then the answers would be right there in front of them.

There lies the problem I think and I have been through almost everything I could find from A to Z on both sides of the fence however I found no reasonable answers to the big questions. Nowhere on the internet or otherwise have I ever read a reasonable answer concerning what the magnetic field is because no rational physicist would tell us the answer. The only answer I found after years of research was -- virtual particles popping in and out of existence from multiple parallel universes... as you can imagine I was disappointed.

I understand the concept sounds absurd and fundamentally it would seem impossible however I think it's important to understand the psychology behind it. All the concepts, equations and math revolve around closed systems because an open system cannot be rationalized nor quantified offering a near infinite number of variables. This is how science works and if it cannot be quantified then it is rejected which once again comes full circle back to basic psychology. The human mind must reject that which it cannot understand or rationalize or we begin to lose our grip on what we perceive as reality.

The alter ego is that the reverse may be true, if our mind will not allow an open system because it cannot be rationalized then logic stipulates the system must always remain closed and we are bound to that construct right or wrong. Thus it does not matter how factual or improbable the answer is it must be the correct one because all other possibilities must be rejected. At which point the logic concerning the proverbial closed system must spiral down the rabbit hole reinforcing itself within itself as it goes.

I'm not sure how many here have studied psychology however there is a saying which covers the bulk of it in my opinion -- the only ones who are truly insane are the ones who believe they are not in some way. That is those who are without doubt and reject all other possibilities or beliefs without question. Which explains many things doesn't it?, it is not a simple matter of convincing an insane person they are in fact insane because they will always reject that reality in every case. There is literally no convincing them of anything which in itself defines the actual mental disorder and not the external patterns of behavior... they will not listen.
In any case most all of the greatest minds in our history were pretty much loco so right or wrong were all in good company.

AC

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1663 on: January 26, 2015, 07:40:06 AM »
@Mark
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If fundamental falsities are not addressed, then it is just a trip down
someone's garden path.  Is that what you want?
Sometimes it's not the destination but the journey that matters most and making mistakes are a fundamental part of learning.
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At various times people have lodged allegations against me for supposedly
doing things such as "twisting" their words.  When I have asked for examples of
the alleged bad behavior I none have been cited.
I know all of us have done this very thing at one point or another moreso me however you my friend are an exception to the rule. I cannot even imagine you doing such a thing...the nerve of some people, puny mortals, lol.

AC

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1664 on: January 26, 2015, 07:46:51 AM »
So todays digital service technicians who dont know all about analog systems are probably crap at there job as well?.
Why would you conclude such a thing?  Wrenches are very basic things.  Here in the USA we have metric and imperial (SAE) sizes.  Anyone who has worked on cars even as a hobby has been exposed to both metric and SAE tools and hardware as very basic tools of the trade.  So someone who doesn't know the difference has been living in a hole somewhere.  A auto tech trained on digital will still know what a spark plug is and a coil even if they are not familiar with the old distributors with breaker points and a single common coil.

 

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