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Author Topic: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions  (Read 605729 times)

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1155 on: January 15, 2015, 07:42:39 AM »
*wipes screen*


MarkE

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1156 on: January 15, 2015, 08:04:57 AM »
How about the thread topic, or have we moved onto transformers?
You have been that busy with EMJ, and trying to correct everything he states, you missed 3questions I posted related to the thread title-about 9 pages back.

But anyway, do carry on.
Tinman if you have a questions you didn't get answers to then you can always repost them.  The Bloch wall claim has been destroyed as has the field looping back into the middle of the magnet. 

minnie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1157 on: January 15, 2015, 11:32:14 AM »



  I'm always looking, I have a need to try and understand what others seem able to
comprehend. Anyways at the moment I see references to counterspace but haven't
a clue what they're on about. This morning I did find this which mentions projective
geometry. nct.anth.org.uk/counter  I thought it might be interesting for some of you
I'll have a go at it tonight,
                   John.

NoBull

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1158 on: January 15, 2015, 01:27:52 PM »
The reason your iron lamination jumps over what you think is the Bloch wall is because on either side there is much stronger magnetic attraction. 
And this attraction force is proportional to the gradient of the magnetic flux density (B) so any map of the attraction force will be a map of this gradient ...not anything else.

allcanadian

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1159 on: January 15, 2015, 04:58:07 PM »
@Mark
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The Bloch wall claim has been destroyed as has the field
looping back into the middle of the magnet.
*facepalm*
I think I just threw up in my brain....thanks
 
AC

MarkE

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1160 on: January 15, 2015, 05:05:41 PM »
@Mark*facepalm*
I think I just threw up in my brain....thanks
 
AC
I'm sorry are you thinking that there is some evidence that supports rather than refutes the idea that the field turns towards the dipole at its center?  What would that evidence be?

MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1161 on: January 15, 2015, 09:34:21 PM »
In Chris' "Bucking Coils" pdf document he makes a claim of COP 1.7 for for one of his transformer setups.  Please see the attached screen cap.

So Chris, can you back your claim up?  My feeling is that with your limited knowledge, experience, and skills that you just unwittingly deceived yourself.  If you shared your data the problem might be found.

EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1162 on: January 15, 2015, 09:59:58 PM »
@ALL

Any Answers Yet? How and Why is Energy Pumped in Generators? Where does the Energy Really come from in the Generator?

Please start asking questions, in your mind, Why?

"Brute Force" is just to over come Lenz's Law and is NOT the reason why Energy is present on the Output Terminals. Lenz's Law is a Result of the Energy being present on the Output Terminals!

In my work, Lenz's law does not affect the Prime Mover! Lenz's Law does not Apply! At the Same time, it is present, working else where!

See URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

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synchro1

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1163 on: January 15, 2015, 10:13:28 PM »
@MileHigh,

Here's a transformer with a 377% OU COP:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aVYiT4zK9Kc

synchro1

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1164 on: January 15, 2015, 10:27:19 PM »
@Milehigh,

Here's another video on "Opposite Coils":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7QiI8p1gi4

EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1165 on: January 16, 2015, 12:02:50 AM »
@ALL

Any Answers Yet? How and Why is Energy Pumped in Generators? Where does the Energy Really come from in the Generator?

Please start asking questions, in your mind, Why?

"Brute Force" is just to over come Lenz's Law and is NOT the reason why Energy is present on the Output Terminals. Lenz's Law is a Result of the Energy being present on the Output Terminals!

In my work, Lenz's law does not affect the Prime Mover! Lenz's Law does not Apply! At the Same time, it is present, working else where!

See URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
   To Reach New Horizons!

@ALL

Experiment:

Take a conventional Automotive Alternator.
Install on a Rig along with an electric Motor.
Drive with Electric Motor

Only input is mechanical in the form of Rotation to the Alternator Shaft!

Question: Is it possible to get an Output with No Extra Input to the Alternator?
Answer: Yes

Result: By connecting the Field Coil on the Alternator in such a way, either in a short circuit, or connected in series with the output Coils, enough Feed Back is produced to get an Electrical Output on the Output Terminals.

Not Free Energy, but this shows that Feed Back Techniques can excite the Coils and Magnetic Fields can Manifest in the Device with no further Input! The Magnetic Field can be made to Support Itself!

ONLY because of Lenz Law, Resistive Mechanical Force is applied on the Shaft in Opposition to the applied Input from the Electric Motor!

Lenz's Law is Only a Result of the Electrical Output, NOT the Cause!!!

What does it mean if Lenz's Law could be Eliminated or Reduced?

Please start asking questions, in your mind, Why?

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EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1166 on: January 16, 2015, 12:54:37 AM »
@ALL

Am I helping here?

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Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1167 on: January 16, 2015, 01:05:37 AM »
@ALL

Am I helping here?

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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Everyone who shares their honest opinions is helping the cause Chris...you just never know how much impact a person's words have on people until later on...and sometimes never.

I may not always respond, but I read everything that resonates with me.

Regards...


EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1168 on: January 16, 2015, 01:16:44 AM »
Everyone who shares their honest opinions is helping the cause Chris...you just never know how much impact a person's words have on people until later on...and sometimes never.

I may not always respond, but I read everything that resonates with me.

Regards...

Thanks Cap-Z-ro

I meant to get to an answer. As to why and how Energy is Pumped in a Generator. But, I appreciate your words! Thanks!

Kind Regards

   Chris Sykes - hyiq.org
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MarkE

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1169 on: January 16, 2015, 01:19:15 AM »
In Chris' "Bucking Coils" pdf document he makes a claim of COP 1.7 for for one of his transformer setups.  Please see the attached screen cap.

So Chris, can you back your claim up?  My feeling is that with your limited knowledge, experience, and skills that you just unwittingly deceived yourself.  If you shared your data the problem might be found.
One can claim whatever they like.  Without supporting reliable data it's just a claim.  Using big antenna loops as seen in that picture, Steven Jones claimed 8X overunity that was in reality non-existent.