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Author Topic: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions  (Read 488080 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1035 on: January 14, 2015, 05:38:23 AM »
MileHigh - I answered your question with MUCH better detail than you answered mine!

1: You did not ask for current:

2: you have changed what you are looking for half way though the test - This show what sort of person you really are!

I answered your question! Much better than you answered mine! I am right in what I answered! Anyone here can see this!

You have distorted this whole thing like I knew you would!

Chris, you are supposed to be smart enough to realize that the only unknown in the circuit is the current.   Then afterwards I told you that you have to solve for the current.

And you can't answer the question.  Your protests are not sticking to the wall.

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1036 on: January 14, 2015, 05:41:23 AM »
No Bill - ...

...if you think you're really smart now - You are still not!

But he IS google smart...and may even be a dubble knot spy too.

Regards...


Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1037 on: January 14, 2015, 05:44:48 AM »
Chris, you are supposed to be smart enough to realize that the only unknown in the circuit is the current.   Then afterwards I told you that you have to solve for the current.

And you can't answer the question.  Your protests are not sticking to the wall.

OMG - I just said this! Are you deaf and dumb!

A reliable Current Calculation can not be obtained!

MileHigh you have proved to the whole community how silly you are!

So you have inadvertently accepted my answer as being correct!

Offline MarkE

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1038 on: January 14, 2015, 05:45:17 AM »
You said no resistance so the only variable is Inductive Reactance which I am not going to give you an answer for!

To many un-knowns to give an answer that could be considered accurate.

Wire size could be 12Awg or it could be 32Awg, to many variables and this will change it all! Size of the coil, Length, W x H or 2piR...
XL is a frequency domain concept.  This is a time domain problem.  It can be solved with the information MH has supplied.

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1039 on: January 14, 2015, 05:47:46 AM »
Chris, you are supposed to be smart enough to realize that the only unknown in the circuit is the current.   Then afterwards I told you that you have to solve for the current.

And you can't answer the question.  Your protests are not sticking to the wall.

OMG - I just said this! Are you deaf and dumb!

A reliable Current Calculation can not be obtained! Let me show you what I wrote:

Resistance is an important variable in knowing what current will be drawn. Anyone here will accept that fact, only you cant see this!

Inductive reactance is the other variable and it will be only a small part of the equation.

MileHigh you have proved to the whole community how silly you are!

So you have inadvertently accepted my answer as being correct!

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1040 on: January 14, 2015, 05:48:01 AM »
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A reliable Current Calculation can not be obtained!

You bet your sweet bippy you can solve for the current.

No whining, no protestations please.   Please try to answer the question about the circuit or admit that you can't do it.

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1041 on: January 14, 2015, 05:48:55 AM »
XL is a frequency domain concept.  This is a time domain problem.  It can be solved with the information MH has supplied.

MarkE - I disagree! Not accurately!

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1042 on: January 14, 2015, 05:50:10 AM »
Let me know if you want a big fat clue and I will give it to you.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1043 on: January 14, 2015, 05:54:39 AM »
MarkE - I disagree! Not accurately!
Would the current be solvable accurately if MH were to answer one question?  If so, what would that question be?

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1044 on: January 14, 2015, 05:54:51 AM »
You bet your sweet bippy you can solve for the current.

No whining, no protestations please.   Please try to answer the question about the circuit or admit that you can't do it.

MileHigh - You're a Time waster. I already told you I can not solve this test accurately!

As you failed in my test, you can gloat that I was not able to give you what you wanted in your test. Do you feel better now?

I don't agree at all, for one single minute that any answer will be accurate, it will be a rough approximation only and I am not going down that path. For me on the bench I would. Not for you!

So here in lies the question, have you proven anything here? Do you feel comfortable within your self that you have bent enough rules to satisfy your rudimentary test results. Does this help anyone, will it help anyone? Are you smarter for it?

I know one thing, I am pleased you went through this here!

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1045 on: January 14, 2015, 05:58:26 AM »
Would the current be solvable accurately if MH were to answer one question?  If so, what would that question be?

once more variables are defined, it is easy to solve.

See, you, mileHigh and TinselKoala do things in this forum to suit yourselves! In the answer the inductor parameters would be defined so as to solve for current. People see through this behaviour!

People here can already see this!

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1046 on: January 14, 2015, 06:00:06 AM »
As a side comment I will say something I have said before:  95% of the people that experiment on the forums and play with coils all the time don't even understand how they work.

And it is self-evident that Chris falls within the 95% group.

It's not really a problem, all that you have to do is undertake to educate yourself if you want to play with coils and get more out of your experiments.

The point was to bring you back down to Earth, because the fake and pretentious rhetoric and nasty comments were too much.  No Bloch wall, no fancy shenanigans with magnetic fields.  That's the lesson you should get out of this.

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1047 on: January 14, 2015, 06:00:30 AM »
once more variables are defined, it is easy to solve.

See, you, mileHigh and TinselKoala do things in this forum to suit yourselves! In the answer the inductor parameters would be defined so as to solve for current. People see through this behaviour!

People here can already see this!

Its cheating if the answer contains part of the question - Know what this makes you?

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1048 on: January 14, 2015, 06:02:22 AM »
MileHigh - You're a Time waster. I already told you I can not solve this test accurately!

As you failed in my test, you can gloat that I was not able to give you what you wanted in your test. Do you feel better now?

I don't agree at all, for one single minute that any answer will be accurate, it will be a rough approximation only and I am not going down that path. For me on the bench I would. Not for you!

So here in lies the question, have you proven anything here? Do you feel comfortable within your self that you have bent enough rules to satisfy your rudimentary test results. Does this help anyone, will it help anyone? Are you smarter for it?

I know one thing, I am pleased you went through this here!

Just list your questions about the circuit and I will answer them to the best of my abilities.

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #1049 on: January 14, 2015, 06:02:38 AM »
As a side comment I will say something I have said before:  95% of the people that experiment on the forums and play with coils all the time don't even understand how they work.

And it is self-evident that Chris falls within the 95% group.

It's not really a problem, all that you have to do is undertake to educate yourself if you want to play with coils and get more out of your experiments.

The point was to bring you back down to Earth, because the fake and pretentious rhetoric and nasty comments were too much.  No Bloch wall, no fancy shenanigans with magnetic fields.  That's the lesson you should get out of this.

MileHigh - Youre a thalidomide - all Mouth and no action! You have proven Nothing here!