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Author Topic: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions  (Read 531118 times)

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #975 on: January 14, 2015, 03:05:19 AM »
TinselKoala - Just ONE Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bssBAb6EzM4

Robert is just one of many genuine real devices!

What a FOOL You have proven yourself to be!

Keep it up! You are digging your hole deeper and deeper.  Roobert himself has admitted that that video is a fake. You don't think so? It's simple enough, so BUILD IT YOURSELF and show it running. You can't!

Insult me all you like. You've got a long way to go before you come even close to the insults I've received from other fakers and false claimants on this forum. But you cannot actually refute me, and when you start posting nonsense, FAKED VIDEOS, and insults instead of showing your own work and making reasoned arguments, you are just demonstrating your incompetence and childishness. As well as your utter lack of critical thinking skills and your inability to do your own homework.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #976 on: January 14, 2015, 03:08:36 AM »
TinselKoala - Just ONE Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bssBAb6EzM4

Robert is just one of many genuine real devices!

What a FOOL You have proven yourself to be!
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Uploaded on Nov 18, 2010

This is a back-up copy of a video originally posed by Roobert33 Roobert33 (now removed from his account) subsequently posted at FLek_3Hpwus

It shows a V-gate magnet motor that supposedly is made functional (rotation maintained) by means of a mechanical method for moving the stator magnets in and out of the way of the gate ("re-gauging") so that the gate doesn't become a lock-up point that otherwise would stop the motion of the magnet motor.

On Nov. 18, Roobert wrote to Stefan Hartmann at Overunity.com saying: "Yes, It was a joke that I should not do! I apologize to you and all your friends who have lost time in commenting on .... The device had to operate the magnet inside a coil that I had in my shirt."

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #977 on: January 14, 2015, 03:09:26 AM »
@EMJ
A few thoughts concerning the DWFTTW and the SMOT concepts.
In both cases the critics stuck in their own personal flavor of mediocrity have said something cannot work because of certain laws however these laws were always applied in there most basic sense to justify an opinion. That is the DWFTTW concept cannot work because the force on an object from the wind decreases as the velocity of the object increases thus if the object reaches the same speed as the wind there can be no applied force. It is all common sense that it cannot go faster than the wind and must be a perpetual mobile in violation of natural law. Now did you see what just happened here?, they applied the most basic form of the law to a rather complex concept they did not understand to justify their opinion.

The SMOT is really no different because according to the critics it is just like a metal spring and we all know how springs act don't we?. Why it is all common sense and the same laws which apply to a simple spring must also apply to the SMOT and if it could work then it must also be a perpetual mobile in violation of natural law. Again we have a very strange scenario whereby the critics have applied the most basic form of the law to a complex system they may not fully understand.

What is not always apparent, the good part, is that if we actually listen to the critics sometimes their misguided thoughts to justify their own opinion can offer real insight. For instance they believe the SMOT is just like a simple spring and nothing more or it may magically morph into a mythical perpetual mobile. However the inverse to their thoughts is that we want a system which can never act like a spring. You see they have just given us an answer to the single biggest problem we may encounter and under no circumstances can the system act like a simple spring or it cannot work.

Which raises the question how do we build a magnetic system which can never act like a simple spring?. Why if it were me I would look for non-linear relationships such as a spring which becomes weaker with one polarity (incoming magnet) and stronger with another polarity (outgoing magnet). Or a material which changes it's magnetic properties but only under certain specific conditions which we might control or a material which causes the field to move abruptly from one area to the next under certain conditions. I mean the critics have opened up endless possibilities due to their own indifference to the problem which they obviously have no idea how to solve... thanks critics.
It's really quite simple and in many cases we should simply do the opposite of what they are telling us.

AC

@AC - Again you offer brilliance! Insight and also offer solutions for thoughts!

Critics are a good thing! Its good to be challenged!

I get a little outraged at stupidity by blind morons that cant think rationally! For example, a Solar Sail, why would one want to use a Solar Sail, to collect all the Solar Rays and return them to the Sun? OMG What a brain dead thing to say, do or imply!!!

No! one uses the Solar Rays via the Solar Sail to invoke travel!

I am really sorry to all here reading! I am so disappointed in TinselKoala's idiotic irrational refutability's! He is totally doomed!

AC - You have provided some real insight with the DWFTTW, and also on other topics! I really do thank you for your input. We quite obviously agree on a fair bit!

Yes, systems that are able to show an un-stability, or provide conditions for non stable operations can sometimes provide a door! I like your way of thinking! A Quote: “if you have Columbic interaction, positive, negative,  you can’t have a minimum energy structure, that has, a Nucleus here, and eight electrons at a corner of a cube, because they are inverse square force laws and they can’t be a minimum energy, if it distorted it would keep going”

Hmm... I really like this quote. For anyone wondering, I have already given the references for this.

What is a Magnetic Valve? How can Magnetic Flux be Gated Efficiently? It may cost 10 watts to get 1 watt, if you're not paying for the 10 watts then why should it matter where this 10 watts come from? Its still 1 watt you have! I have given so many answers already! Everyone here should know how to do this already!

Why should it matter about the stream or the reservoir, as long as you don't have to fill the reservoir, then who really benefits from the Ram Pump? EVERYONE THAT Uses it! That's why its used in the first place! NATURE FILLS the reservoir, NATURE makes the stream flow!

NON Conventional Springs exist no matter how much Crap the Critics talk! Some critics are the representation of Failure some are Constructive!

AC Thanks! Appreciate your brilliance!

Kind Regards

  Chris


Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #978 on: January 14, 2015, 03:15:30 AM »
TinselKoala - This is the most FOOLISH Stupid, IDIOT sentence I have ever read in my entire life!

Clearly your Intellectual Handicap does not allow you to use Comprehensive Fundamental Rational reason to advance anyone or anything!

Youre a defeatist! In your heart you believe that nothing can be done!

I was 14 years old when I built my first Ram Pump, and Yes it worked. As do All Ram Pumps once constructed correctly!

The most simple thing in the world, 2 moving parts and it defeats your pathetic inability too see past your very own Ignorance!

Wow you are now the most silly person on ou.com! I am totally gob smacked at your stupidity!
 

Of course ram pumps work, and I never said they didn't. I said that they are not OU and that you cannot self-loop a system where the ram pump works without excess water flowing. And that is perfectly true. Or would you like to demonstrate otherwise? Go ahead, build a system with an upper reservoir, a ram pump and a lower reservoir, and let's see it pumping continuously from the lower to the upper.  But we all know that YOU CANNOT.

Read it and weep, insulting false claimant:

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Pump Performance:[/u] <blockquote> Some information suggests that typical ram pumps discharge approximately 7 gallons of water through the waste valve for every gallon pressurized and pumped.  The percentage of the drive water delivered actually varies based on the ram construction, vertical fall to pump, and elevation to the water outlet.  The percentage of the drive water pumped to the desired point may be approximately 22% when the vertical fall from the water source to the pump is half of the elevation lift from the ram to the water outlet.  It may be as low as 2% or less when the vertical fall from the water source to the pump is 4% of the elevation lift from the ram to the water outlet.</blockquote>
http://www.clemson.edu/irrig/equip/ram.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wG7o8ic_OQ

Do you see all of that waste water? That is what is running your ram pump and that is why you cannot self-loop it. The ram pump pumps a _lot_ less water than it takes to run it, and that's why you cannot self-loop it without running quickly out of water. Don't believe me or the scientific analysis? THEN BUILD ONE THAT YOU CAN SELF LOOP. You can't !

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #979 on: January 14, 2015, 03:17:05 AM »
Uploaded on Nov 18, 2010

This is a back-up copy of a video originally posed by Roobert33 Roobert33 (now removed from his account) subsequently posted at FLek_3Hpwus

It shows a V-gate magnet motor that supposedly is made functional (rotation maintained) by means of a mechanical method for moving the stator magnets in and out of the way of the gate ("re-gauging") so that the gate doesn't become a lock-up point that otherwise would stop the motion of the magnet motor.

On Nov. 18, Roobert wrote to Stefan Hartmann at Overunity.com saying: "Yes, It was a joke that I should not do! I apologize to you and all your friends who have lost time in commenting on .... The device had to operate the magnet inside a coil that I had in my shirt."

MarkE - This is not the only replication.

No doubt Robert like others was just sick of the LUNACY of idiots criticizing his device! I know for a fact that the device works as was stated!

Hey, I must admit, I am no longer wanting to share any more because of IDIOTS like TinselKoala! Why should this IDIOT benefit from my work?

I know four other people that have working devices. They all said don't share it, don't tell people, don't try to help these idiots, but you know what, I still want to help others. Some cant be helped!

Its the old saying all over again: "Give a man a fish, he will eat for a day! Teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime!" But do you know what, some refuse to hold the Fishing Rod!


Offline ramset

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #980 on: January 14, 2015, 03:18:54 AM »
Chris
Not sure where your getting all this Bile from with Tinsel..perhaps you should calm down a bit with that?


Its not a good way to make your point , not a good way to be at all...


Thx


Chet


Offline MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #981 on: January 14, 2015, 03:19:14 AM »
The confession:

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On Nov. 18, Roobert wrote to Stefan Hartmann at Overunity.com saying: "Yes, It was a joke that I should not do! I apologize to you and all your friends who have lost time in commenting on .... The device had to operate the magnet inside a coil that I had in my shirt."

The problem here is that the guy is lying again!  So he makes a clip that is a lie, and then he lies again when he 'confesses.'   WTF??

Mr. Super Eye (me):

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He is very careful to keep the background shadows and lighting as consistent as possible to make the video appear seamless.  He does an excellent job at this but he makes one tiny slip-up around 1:32-1:33. Look very carefully at the right edge of the green paper background at 1:32 - 1:33.  Just when you know he has to make his first edit, you can see a touch of remaining shadow on the green paper background go *poof* and disappear.

@hawkiye You see the shadow receding because he is moving away.  Then there is a video edit, and the shadow suddenly goes *poof* and disappears.  If he had moved away fast enough the shadow would have been gone before he had to do the the video edit. The discontinuity in the shadow is happening at the exact time he would have to do a video edit to fake the clip.  He tried his best to make it perfect but he failed.  There are also speed changes indicating video edits.

What a world we live in when the confessors are lying again!

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #982 on: January 14, 2015, 03:22:22 AM »
Chris
Not sure where your getting all this Bile from with Tinsel..perhaps you should calm down a bit with that?


Its not a good way to make your point , not a good way to be at all...


Thx


Chet

Chet - I agree. I have not been very professional here!

I will bring down the tempo.

Kind Regards

  Chris

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #983 on: January 14, 2015, 03:25:03 AM »
MarkE - This is not the only replication.

No doubt Robert like others was just sick of the LUNACY of idiots criticizing his device! I know for a fact that the device works as was stated!

Hey, I must admit, I am no longer wanting to share any more because of IDIOTS like TinselKoala! Why should this IDIOT benefit from my work?

I know four other people that have working devices. They all said don't share it, don't tell people, don't try to help these idiots, but you know what, I still want to help others. Some cant be helped!

Its the old saying all over again: "Give a man a fish, he will eat for a day! Teach a man to fish, he will eat for a lifetime!" But do you know what, some refuse to hold the Fishing Rod!

You have "shared" nothing of value ever. Zero, zip, nada. Not a bit. All you are doing is trying to convince people of your false claims and give them false hopes. You can't even build anything yourself that supports your false claims about SMOTs or Ram Pumps or even Roobert's hoax! All you can do is type "IDIOT" in all caps! Why don't you try holding your breath and stomping your feet, maybe that will get your failed SMOT to work! Or maybe not.

You are hilarious, EMJunkie. Sad, but hilarious at the same time. You can't even build a SIMPLE magnetic overunity toy that actually works! You can't even build a Roobert's Calloway Gate when all the parts are laid out before you! Why not? I know why... and SO DO YOU, you false claimant you!


Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #984 on: January 14, 2015, 03:32:40 AM »
The confession:

The problem here is that the guy is lying again!  So he makes a clip that is a lie, and then he lies again when he 'confesses.'   WTF??

Mr. Super Eye (me):

What a world we live in when the confessors are lying again!

MileHigh - You are a LIAR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPBiOccSLo

Another working device!

I have seen a WORKING Device! First hand. In my own lab. One of my good friends built it.

So who is a Liar! Milehigh

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #985 on: January 14, 2015, 03:35:24 AM »
You have "shared" nothing of value ever. Zero, zip, nada. Not a bit. All you are doing is trying to convince people of your false claims and give them false hopes. You can't even build anything yourself that supports your false claims about SMOTs or Ram Pumps or even Roobert's hoax! All you can do is type "IDIOT" in all caps! Why don't you try holding your breath and stomping your feet, maybe that will get your failed SMOT to work! Or maybe not.

You are hilarious, EMJunkie. Sad, but hilarious at the same time. You can't even build a SIMPLE magnetic overunity toy that actually works! You can't even build a Roobert's Calloway Gate when all the parts are laid out before you! Why not? I know why... and SO DO YOU, you false claimant you!

TinselKoala = Oil Company Troll!

I have references to backup all my claims, you are the one that everyone is looking at  :o

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #986 on: January 14, 2015, 03:36:46 AM »
TK:

The bottom line is that Chris started out as a solid block of cheese.  Then he started talking and he got qualified.  Now he is like 'aerogel' Swiss cheese.  It's a shaky structure on the verge of collapse.

You get nasty with me and I will qualify you back.

It makes me think of poor QEG Jamie, the 'engineer' that was not even able to correctly interpret his own scope traces.  They we see him like some extra in a Laurel and Hardy movie climbing up a ladder to string up a 'magic' antenna.

People make big claims and the more they speak, the more they reveal about themselves.  I am speaking mostly, but not completely, on a technical level.

MileHigh

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #987 on: January 14, 2015, 03:42:12 AM »
MileHigh - You are a LIAR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPBiOccSLo

Another working device!

I have seen a WORKING Device! First hand. In my own lab. One of my good friends built it.

So who is a Liar! Milehigh

That German clip in what looks like a university classroom with a spinny wheel is definite proof that I am a liar!

Offline EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #988 on: January 14, 2015, 03:42:39 AM »
TK:

The bottom line is that Chris started out as a solid block of cheese.  Then he started talking and he got qualified.  Now he is like 'aerogel' Swiss cheese.  It's a shaky structure on the verge of collapse.

You get nasty with me and I will qualify you back.

It makes me think of poor QEG Jamie, the 'engineer' that was not even able to correctly interpret his own scope traces.  They we see him like some extra in a Laurel and Hardy movie climbing up a ladder to string up a 'magic' antenna.

People make big claims and the more they speak, the more they reveal about themselves.  I am speaking mostly, but not completely, on a technical level.

MileHigh

MileHigh - You are very very mistaken! Again! I am only just getting started!

Offline Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #989 on: January 14, 2015, 03:45:40 AM »
Does anyone out there even care that Bill Alek has stolen Alfred Lambremont Webre's hair ???

For Alfreds' sake, I certainly hope he hasn't left any loose exotic technology documents lying around.

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