No, when one wishes to argue against established understanding it is up to the challenger to provide convincing evidence.

As human beings we do not have any absolute knowledge.  Philosphers get to argue about such matters while never attaining absolute knowledge anymore than anyone else.   We can absolutely predict with deadly accuracy: static electric, static magnetic, and electrodynamic behaviors to incredibly high accuracies.   That we are able to do so, very strongly suggests that we have a very strong grasp of how the elements interact.  If someone wants to make a dent in the set of beliefs that allow us to do this, then they need to find at least one situation where their new idea makes better predictions, while making equally accurate predictions as established beliefs in all other cases.  It is a very tall order.  So no, I reject the idea that one has to have a fundamental answer to the theory of everything in order to adhere to established scientific beliefs: IE physical laws.  To paraphrase Dr. Sheehan:  "Laws are laws until they aren't."  Come up with a case of where the laws fail.  Then come up with a better answer.

@Mark
DWFTTWI would agree and that was my point,  hovever we should be perfectly clear that almost all the experts claimed the Down Wind Faster than the Wind technology must violate the laws of physics and be a perpetual motion machine... Period... no futher debate required. They used the laws to justify their misguided opinions simply because they didn't understand what was happening, that is what I'm talking about. Let's not sugar coat this because they made themselves look absolutely stupid and it is still archived all over the net for all to see.
If they actually had any real integrity they would have given the proper response which is -- "I do not know we will have to wait for more facts" --because those are the facts but saying it must violate the laws of physics is obviously a lie.

AC

This one really is for the questioning.

Please find below the PDF file ”resurrection” .


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This is the truth EMJ,and i was here for the Ainslie saga from the start-->that was a hoot for sure.

Although we may not agree on all things all the time,the 3 above mentioned have my upmost respect. As far as disagreeing some times with what one another may think is right or wrong,well the world would be a pretty boaring stale place to be in if we all thought the same.

We all have our win's every now and then,but you will find MH,poynt and TK nail it 99.99% of the time-->hell,TK even had to correct MarkE there once not to far back in this thread,and i even got to correct MH once(i believe was also in this thread?),and that came about from experiments and bench time-->i think thats the only one for me but with these 3 guy's lol.

Well that didnt get us very far,so im guessing were sticking to theories ATM.

It is great that you believe we have a good grasp on whats going on with magnetic field's,so i will take the time to ask you another question.

Im sure you have seen some guys around here(including myself) make those induction water heater's-the one's with a looped coil of copper pipe filled with water,and in the center of this looped copper pipe is a rotor with PM's in it. They spin the rotor up,eddy currents heat the copper pipe,and thus the water in side the pipe. So we know an equal and opposite force is created between the rotor and copper-the drag on the rotor is the same as the drag on the copper pipe. But my question is this-the copper pipe and water gets hot,but do the magnets on the rotor also get hot?-we are assuming that the copper pipe is insulated,and radiant heat from the copper pipe dose not heat the rotating magnets.

Clearly he does NOT know, or believe, that SMOTs don't work! Just look at what he's posted! 

Go ahead, EMJunkie. Please go to work and make a self-looping SMOT! I don't think you should post anything else until you get one working, running by itself. After all, your posted .pdf says "can this be looped? Yes!" and you claim that the video shows a "working" SMOT! So go to it! Put those wonderful critical thinking and building skills to work and PROVE ME WRONG. Make a self-looped SMOT! Simple, right? I laugh at you!
You cannot do it!

And how about a hydraulic ram pump? Make one that pumps water back up into its reservoir and just keeps on pumping the same water around and around, without you helping it by supplying _excess water_ from an upper reservoir. Hundreds and hundreds of years! Go ahead, make one that works in a closed loop!
You cannot!

And it is clear that you are unaware of the _real_ scientific discussion that has happened concerning the DWFTTW efforts. Some people didn't believe it at first glance, that is true. It is also true that many of those openminded disbelievers carried out a rational discussion, built models and finally convinced themselves that it was possible, before the definitive demonstrations that we have all seen on YT. This issue is +unrelated+, except in your mind.

Why don't you drag out the old canard about the Wright Brothers, next, where you claim that they did what "every scientist" believed was impossible, while you ignore the fact that they had examples from nature, examples from models, man-carrying kites, soaring gliders, the work of other people, and years of their own _scientific_ research to build upon before they flew their first _powered_ airplane.

You're a real hoot EMJunkie. Produce a self-looped SMOT to back up your silly claims, or everyone will know that you are just another blowhard false claimant like so many we have seen here, claiming something that is not true.  YOU CANNOT !!  You've really stuck your foot in your mouth now, with your support of SMOT claims. Get to work! SIMPLE magnetic overunity toy. Howard Johnson! Your pdf! The video you linked! Where is your PROOF of OU, your self looped SMOT? You cannot do it!!!
Yes... if you supply power from the outside! By Mister Hand!

You get a ROFL for that one!

There's the money shot right there AC-well done.

They had a good handle on there laws-->until the back yard boys blew them out of the water. But as always,it was just an oversite--it's all fixed now

And how about a hydraulic ram pump? Make one that pumps water back up into its reservoir and just keeps on pumping the same water around and around, without you helping it by supplying _excess water_ from an upper reservoir. Hundreds and hundreds of years! Go ahead, make one that works in a closed loop!
You cannot!