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Author Topic: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions  (Read 611964 times)

EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #525 on: January 07, 2015, 12:37:44 AM »
Quote from: minnie on January 07, 2015, 12:30:26 AM


  EMJ,
        you're getting there bit by bit, that one-liner in reply 531 of yours is what they've
 been trying to tell you.
      Kirchoff  is for the birds!
                   John.

Hi John,

I disagree, the Visual evidence also speaks for itself! If there is a hole in ones bucket, what does one do? Deny its there and just keep filling it with water?

Logic says NO, Plug your Hole is the first thing to do!

Kind Regards

  Chris
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poynt99

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #526 on: January 07, 2015, 12:53:32 AM »
Quote from: EMJunkie on January 07, 2015, 12:22:17 AM
Appologies Poynt99 - I did miss your post.

1: Yes, every Magnetic Field that is Un-Interfered with has an Equator aka a Bloch Wall.
2: No different to standard Science - Moving Charge Carriers can constitute a Magnetic Field.

My previous post may also help answer your questions.

Kind Regards

  Chris Sykes

Thanks. Further to question 2, would you agree then that the magnetic field around a current-carrying wire is as shown in the attached pic?
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EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #527 on: January 07, 2015, 01:05:41 AM »
Quote from: poynt99 on January 07, 2015, 12:53:32 AM
Thanks. Further to question 2, would you agree then that the magnetic field around a current-carrying wire is as shown in the attached pic?

Poynt99 - yes.

I see where youre going. I have an answer for it already. So we will see how it plays out.

Chris
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poynt99

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #528 on: January 07, 2015, 01:07:30 AM »
Quote from: tinman on January 06, 2015, 09:18:51 PM
A + C are the same value,only 180* out of phase. B has a value of 0.
A and C have a potential difference and B dose not.

What new (if any) conclusions have you been able to formulate from that?
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EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #529 on: January 07, 2015, 01:12:35 AM »
Quote from: poynt99 on January 07, 2015, 01:07:30 AM
What new (if any) conclusions have you been able to formulate from that?

That POSTULATIONS are being made!

http://physics.dorpstraat21.nl/experiments/magnetic%20field%20in%20a%20slinky

Notice:

Formula: The magnetic field B inside a long solenoid is B = musubo.n.I

NOTE: THIS DOES NOT HOLD TRUE FOR OUTSIDE THE SOLENOID!!!

On a Long Solenoid the Magnetic Field can NOT BE MEASURED AT ALL!!!

Again and again I support my debate with SCIENCE and REFERENCES!

You have nothing but Preposterous POSTULATIONS!!!

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #530 on: January 07, 2015, 01:12:52 AM »
Quote from: EMJunkie on January 07, 2015, 01:05:41 AM
Poynt99 - yes.

I see where youre going. I have an answer for it already. So we will see how it plays out.

Chris

Ok. ;)

If the wire is bent into a circle (as shown), do you agree that the field from the two halves combine to aid as shown in the attached pic?
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EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #531 on: January 07, 2015, 01:16:02 AM »
Quote from: poynt99 on January 07, 2015, 01:12:52 AM
Ok. ;)

If the wire is bent into a circle (as shown), do you agree that the field from the two halves combine to aid as shown in the attached pic?

So you're also now arguing that the Earth and a Bar Magnet is a Single Current Loop?

Again what happens when you add more than one, maybe say 1000? Have you the ability to do the experiment? The one I provided you the References and also the concepts to?
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #532 on: January 07, 2015, 01:20:22 AM »
Quote from: EMJunkie on January 07, 2015, 01:16:02 AM
So you're also now arguing that the Earth and a Bar Magnet is a Single Current Loop?

Again what happens when you add more than one, maybe say 1000? Have you the ability to do the experiment? The one I provided you the References and also the concepts to?

I'm asking questions only to understand your position.

Would you be in agreement with the pic?
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #533 on: January 07, 2015, 01:22:27 AM »
Quote from: poynt99 on January 07, 2015, 01:20:22 AM
I'm asking questions only to understand your position.

Would you be in agreement with the pic?

Would be agreement with my provided References and Experimental Proof?
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #534 on: January 07, 2015, 01:27:33 AM »
No problem, if you wish not to continue, that's ok.

I thought you might be interested in my train of thinking to see where it might lead, but perhaps I was mistaken.

Roger out.

.99  :)
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EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #535 on: January 07, 2015, 01:32:07 AM »
Quote from: poynt99 on January 07, 2015, 01:27:33 AM
No problem, if you wish not to continue, that's ok.

I thought you might be interested in my train of thinking to see where it might lead, but perhaps I was mistaken.

Roger out.

.99  :)

I have answered your questions, maybe you could be so courteous?

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MarkE

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #536 on: January 07, 2015, 01:35:47 AM »
Quote from: EMJunkie on January 06, 2015, 10:28:16 PM
MARKE and others that cant comprehend REAL SCIENCE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUUMCT7FjaI

Minute 30:17

I quote REAL SCIENCE FOR THE DUMMIES AND BRAIN DEAD!!! Internationally Renowned World Class Physicist Walter Lewin.

"So the Magnetic Field is INSIDE the Solenoid"


Wait for it - DENIAL DENIAL DENIAL MARKE you OIL COMPANY TROLL!!!

You FOOL How can you DISPUTE FACT!!! You FOOL  ::) ::)
EMJUNKIE once again you are way off the mark.  That is one of many of Dr. Lewin's excellent lectures and it goes completely against your claims.  You apparently missed the entire first half of the lecture where Dr. Lewin taught that the emf developed is a function of the change in flux density with respect to time perpendicular to the conductor surface for each such surface.  In other words, perpendicular to the coil windings, IE parallel to the central axis for dipoles. 
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EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #537 on: January 07, 2015, 01:36:46 AM »
I wonder why modern Physics now draws Magnetic Field Lines like so:
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EMJunkie

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #538 on: January 07, 2015, 01:37:48 AM »
Quote from: MarkE on January 07, 2015, 01:35:47 AM
EMJUNKIE once again you are way off the mark.  That is one of many of Dr. Lewin's excellent lectures and it goes completely against your claims.  You apparently missed the entire first half of the lecture where Dr. Lewin taught that the emf developed is a function of the change in flux density with respect to time perpendicular to the conductor surface for each such surface.  In other words, perpendicular to the coil windings, IE parallel to the central axis for dipoles.

MarkE you're off the MarkE - Experiment, know of the Term?
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #539 on: January 07, 2015, 01:40:06 AM »
Quote from: EMJunkie on January 07, 2015, 01:37:48 AM
MarkE you're off the MarkE - Experiment, know of the Term?

How can this possibly be refuted: MarkEd in Red!!!
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