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Offline richardemmanueljones

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #270 on: October 22, 2014, 08:39:16 PM »

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #270 on: October 22, 2014, 08:39:16 PM »

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #271 on: October 23, 2014, 12:29:29 AM »
A magnetic field expels electrons or a wire carrying electrons which is the bases for all motors and generators so what happens when we inject electrons into a magnetic field.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #272 on: October 28, 2014, 04:24:46 AM »
In a HPG current flows from centre to edge of the disk.  Hence if you arrange the coil as shown in the above diagram, current will not flow from end to end of the coil but it flows from side to side of the coil.

If you cut a round coil, make it straight and place it from centre to the edge, and arrange several such straight coils on the disc, you may get better results because current flows from one end of the coil at centre to the other end on the edge,  which is the natural direction of flow of current in HPG.


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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #272 on: October 28, 2014, 04:24:46 AM »
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #273 on: October 29, 2014, 04:28:57 PM »
       This would have twirled alot of electric meters+
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRV1e5_tB6Y

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #274 on: October 30, 2014, 12:08:34 AM »
In a HPG current flows from centre to edge of the disk.  Hence if you arrange the coil as shown in the above diagram, current will not flow from end to end of the coil but it flows from side to side of the coil.

If you cut a round coil, make it straight and place it from centre to the edge, and arrange several such straight coils on the disc, you may get better results because current flows from one end of the coil at centre to the other end on the edge,  which is the natural direction of flow of current in HPG.
I agree the electron should enter the center and exit the outer edge, the magnetic field should force (expel) the electron out.
Will it accelerate the electron  :-\ have not tested it yet.

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« Reply #274 on: October 30, 2014, 12:08:34 AM »
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #275 on: October 30, 2014, 12:41:06 AM »
This would be a more viable schematic.
The buck converter will lower the voltage so a higher voltage would be best.
In magnetron and radar research I read that current against the magnetic field gains energy whereas current moving with the field gives the field energy.
Anyway if anyone gives this a shot before I do give an update good or bad.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #276 on: October 30, 2014, 03:38:46 PM »
There must be something that act's against the other something :-\. What i mean is-one magnetic field acts against the other,wether it be like poles ,or unlike poles. You just cant have nothing interacting with another nothing ::) So what dose this invisable force consist of?.

Quote:  They are of such low frequency/long wavelength that they cannot be called "light"
They are called what then?,and would a solar pannel see this low frequency/long wave length?.Wouldnt that be a hoot-throw some magnets on a solar pannel,and produce power without light :D

Magnetic field is massless hence a moving magnetic field will have massless momentum  which cannot be felt by inserting a solid object.  It can be felt by momentum produced by another massless magnetic field in opposite direction.  Hence when you bring two magnetic fields having momentum in opposite directions,  they collide and flyback (repulsion) just like two solid masses moving in opposite directions when collide,  move back due to impact.

What would be the difference between solid mass momentum and massless momentum?


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« Reply #277 on: October 30, 2014, 05:10:24 PM »
Electrons produce a magnetic field, or should I say moving electrons produce a magnetic field that is repelled in a magnetic field.
If you take a spherical magnet and place it in the center of a toroidal speaker magnet it is pushed to the outer edge, the magnetic field is trying to expel the sphere magnet, I suspect the same is happening to the electron.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #278 on: November 02, 2014, 06:34:00 PM »
you guys know how to find the North and South poles really easy now ha ?    Use one magnet and put a string on it in the middle and then hold the string still in the air but make sure there is no metals around it to affect it ok and see how the magnet turns and then stops by the earths North and South poles affecting the one magnet so the one side of the magnet should be pointed to North and the other side of magnet should be pointing South which tells you the one that is pointing north is actually the South side and of course the other side has to be North that is attracting to the South right ?  YES !!!
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #279 on: January 03, 2015, 12:20:51 AM »
Just for fun, let's have a look at the BLOCH WALL DRAMA that we get in the free energy scene because many amateur experimenters have been corrupted and steadfastly want to believe that there is a Bloch wall inside a magnet when there isn't one.

All of the drama is on the YouTube clip that Ramset pointed to just today....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-V1z2TdQJA

I decided to debate Chris Skyes on his YouTube clip because he is a subscriber to the crazy theory about the Bloch wall being in the center of a magnet.  Bedini, Howard Johnson, and many other luminaries in the free energy cottage industry pitch this nonsense to the masses and I think that is the root cause for this problem.

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User2718218
1 day ago
 
This is a totally retarded clip and you Chris Sykes should be ashamed for putting crap like this on YouTube.  Any astute 15-year-old kid that did well in grade 10 physics could refute this nonsense and prove it is not true by working with a test setup on a bench.  It would only take him 20 minutes.  Unbelievable.

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
1 day ago
 
+User2718218 - You are welcome to your opinion. The same was said for the Wright brothers just before they were recorded in history as the first people to Fly. You are welcome to "refute this nonsense and prove it is not true by working with a test setup on a bench" if you wish.

User2718218
1 day ago
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes I refuted this nonsense 30 years ago on a bench.  Why don't you try doing the same thing?  Build it and make measurements on it and report your results.  Your results will refute this nonsense portrayed in the clip.  Forget about playing the "Wright Brothers" card here.  This is not advancing science.  This is not new knowledge.  This is pure junk and prone to corrupt the minds of people that don't know any better.

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
1 day ago
 
+User2718218 - "I refuted this nonsense 30 years ago on a bench" - I guess you missed something? Like I have said, I know others with this technology, they also have it working. Your opinion is really not making any difference to me or them. Have a nice Day User2718218 ;O)  

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
23 hours ago (edited)
 
+User2718218 - From what I can see - https://www.youtube.com/user/User2718218/discussion - Getting paid for it are you? @ALL Please take note of these Activity's! It appears as if we're being harassed. Those experienced in this field will know what this means! Hahaha

User2718218
22 hours ago
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes Put up some links to their data and I will have a look at it.  I am telling you with 100% certainty that the information in the video is junk.  The two parts of the secondary coil generate EMFs that will cancel each other out so the output from the secondary will be close to zero.  If people won't or don't master the basics of electronics and in this case especially magnetism then they are going to fail all the time.  Spreading this nonsense via a YouTube clip makes it that much worse.   From your comments I take it that you have never done an experiment like this and are relying on others.  You see?  That is an example right there of 'garbage out' creating 'garbage in' on your side.

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22 hours ago
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes Hahaha indeed.  The only problem is that you are laughing at the wrong thing.  Put your logical thinking cap on.   Do you honestly and truly think that playing with a transformer with a nonsensical secondary coil configuration could possibly be a 'new discovery demonstrating free energy?'   Now seriously think about this:  We have been mass producing things with coils acting as transformers in them since the advent of mainstream radio in the 1920s.  So that's for the last 90 years.  If this was real, do you really think that your buddies 'discovered the secret of the transformer with the 'alternative secondary coil'' in 2014?   Get real.  I am no MIB.  I am just an ordinary person pointing out to you how utterly ridiculous the 'pitch' is and now utterly ridiculous the 'technology' is.  What is in the clip is pure junk and any astute 15-year-old with an interest in electronics would also clearly see this is the case.

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
21 hours ago (edited)
 
+User2718218 - I already have several Videos that show this Technology working. One is Low Level Energy Gain. See my Channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/SweetSQM/videos - My first demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJsVSMQqCOM&list=UU-B9gZZShrbxp9YTWgRPsKw - This video is NOT OU but shows the effect (Nearly 4 Years Ago) - And My First Low Level Excess Energy Device: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhQgch4L5XY&list=UU-B9gZZShrbxp9YTWgRPsKw From your comments, I think you're working for the Oil Companies? Bill Alek has also shown the very same technology, he is a qualified EE: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddj85px00lM - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXno_7xXSZs - I have shown this technology for many years. Bill had a little help, he mentioned the name in the video. This person gets paid to troll the net for ideas and then in secret Labs, very Highly Funded, they advance these technologies, and try to Patent and shelve the technologies, he then used my ideas to make his device work in these Labs, then gave the ideas to Bill because it cant be patented. I already have proven this to work and it is now up to you to do your bit, as it is up to everyone else. I suggest you seriously do some home work. Some basic Transformer Theory would be beneficial first! Maybe a read of: http://www.hyiq.org/Downloads/Guidelines%20to%20Bucking%20Coils.pdf - Which contains very basic Transformer Theory. Then if you feel you have any science to dispute go and do it!

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
21 hours ago (edited)
 
+User2718218 - You know, simply, just the way you think, reading your words and how you phrase things, limits you to prehistoric mentality's! I am going to ask you a favour! Please for your own sake, open your mind and stop being close minded, open your mind to the future. Thinking like yours is the reason that Science can not advance! Please do it for yourself! Take nothing for granted, assume nothing, do the Experiment, like you said, 20 minutes for an astute 15 year old. You could do it in 10 then?

User2718218
19 hours ago (edited)
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes Thanks for the links.  For your first clip:  All that I see is you are pumping AC into a strange transformer setup from a car audio amplifier and one of the coils is connected to a light bulb.  The shorted coils are not doing much beyond dissipating some AC power.  For your second clip:  There is no such thing as a Bloch wall in a standard bar magnet.  I know this will upset you but don't you want the truth?  You really have to think about this one hard.  I see you playing with a small home-brew transformer on your bench, sometimes lighting up a small bulb, and calling it "low-level OU."  I don't see any measurements.  All little transformers like that are lossy and there is no OU there.  Instead of the "oil companies" pitch, what if I have more knowledge and experience than you and I know what I am talking about?   Where is Bill Alek's super-duper free energy scooter?  Didn't happen.  I never heard it claimed that he is an EE but it could be true.  That doesn't necessarily mean that he is right.  That Bill Alek clip was discussed in detail on OU.com and it got a failing grade.  I looked at the pdf and when I got to the Bloch wall stuff I stopped.  In glancing through it it looks like a mixture of Bearden and transformer stuff, including your demo setup.  Where is Bearden's MEG that was promised to go into production over 10 years ago?  In your clip where you track the "moving Bloch wall" when you stack more and more magnets together, the fact is that you are not correctly interpreting what the magnetic viewing film is showing you.  To be fair, almost nobody in the free energy realm knows how to correctly interpret magnetic viewing film.  Here is the bottom line:  You have bought into a lot of misconceptions.  They build upon each other and reinforce each other until they hit some critical mass and you start to believe that you know what you are doing and you got it right.  Don't believe me?   Would you be up to a debate on OU.com starting with the magnets and the viewing film and the Bloch walls?  You will come out of the debate a winner if you stick to it and you will be better able to separate the truth out from fiction.

User2718218
19 hours ago
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes Sadly, it's you that is stuck in the box.  Look, suppose you debate the magnet/Bloch wall/viewing film with me and you see it my way.  This is just a thought experiment, bear with me.   Then we debate one of your transformer clips and you see it my way again.   Then were are you?  Do you see where I am going?  Maybe it will go the other way and I will be the one that changes.  However, it's very doubtful because you believe that there is a Bloch wall at the center of a bar magnet, probably because you read that from Tom Bearden, and most or all of your free energy peers agree with you.   Well, your world will be shaken a bit when you realize that there is no Bloch wall in a bar magnet in any way, shape, or form.  That could be your first step forward in the right direction.

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
18 hours ago (edited)
 
+User2718218 - Your current debate is nothing to do with the actual Topic we have been discussing and avoids all of the fore mentioned debated issues? You're wasting my time, time spend best helping others move ahead. Experiment is TRUTH and you refuse to Experiment! You hide behind "User2718218" username and wont provide any substantial evidence to the contrary. All you do is verbally refute what's plainly in-front of you with no evidence to back your verbal mess up! I have provided proof, references, experiments, Videos showing working devices, Technical Proof's, Technical Explanations with scientifically provable evidence. Noise Cancellation, Irrefutable to any scientist. Working on the very same principals! You will however, still refute it because that's your JOB!!! Paid disinformationalist and time waster! Oil Company Troll!!!

User2718218
17 hours ago (edited)
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes Spare me the oil stuff.  You have to cope with this fact:  You are dealing with a normal rational human being.  That's it and that's all.  It sounds to me like it's a crutch with you, somebody disagrees with you and you play the "big oil" card.  That way you don't have to actually debate with people that don't share your view.  It's a cop out.  Let me put it this way:  If you had one experiment or concept that you think clearly demonstrates what you are trying to get across, please point me to it and I will comment.  For other things:  You are asking me for evidence and I am not claiming anything.  If you state that you have a "slightly over unity" transformer setup, it's you that needs to provide clear evidence.  You are probably aware that measurement error often causes these erroneous conclusions, any chance that will come up with you?  Here is a hard fact for you that you may find hard to digest:  Easily 95% or more of free energy experimenters that play with coils all the time in reality have almost no clue how inductors actually work.  There is a good chance that you are in that 95% group also.  I tell you this from five years worth of observation.   Anyway, if you give me a pointer to your "big claim" I will have a look at it and let you know what I think.   Apart from that, there are no bloody Bloch walls inside a standard bar magnet.  If you don't understand that you are crippled.  Please just do the research or like I stated I can debate that with you on OU.com, I am MileHigh on that forum.

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
14 hours ago
 
+User2718218 - Do the experiment or don't do the experiment - I don't care. All day we have debated and like OU.com we are no further ahead.

User2718218
8 hours ago
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes Whatever you say is fine with me.  Just bear in mind if you "teach" people stuff like the erroneous business about Bloch walls then you just perpetuate ignorance.  Here is what a "magnet" with a Bloch wall down the center looks like:  [S---N][N---S].   Now, does that look like a proper magnet to you?   No!  It looks like two separate magnets in opposition "glued into one."  A "magnet with a Bloch wall down the center" is totally nonsensical and will defeat itself.  You have to contemplate this and THINK.  You have an entire separate clip about Bloch walls and it is completely wrong and you don't understand what you are looking at with the magnetic viewing film.  Again, you have to really THINK.

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
3 hours ago
 
+User2718218 - This is all your own opinion!

User2718218
2 hours ago
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes Chris, a magnet has all of the magnetic domains within it ALIGNED IN THE SAME DIRECTION.  By definition a Bloch wall forms the boundary between magnetic domains that are ALIGNED IN DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.   This is a magnet:  [S>>>>>>N].   All of the magnetic domains are aligned in the same direction and the is no Bloch wall.   This is a self-conflicting piece of ferrous metal with a Bloch wall between two magnetic domains that are in the opposite direction:   [S>>>>>>|<<<<<<S].   That is a device with a Bloch wall were there is a nonsensical arrangement of magnetic domains that produce their respective magnetic fields that will CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT.  Now I am giving you the real deal, the truth.  Listen, do some Google searching and read up and spend a few days researching and informing yourself.  Your model for the "magnet with a Bloch wall down the center" will fall apart.  Trust me, get it together on your end.  Assuming you inform yourself and get it, then you will need to take down the bad clips and/or issue retractions.

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
1 hour ago
 
+User2718218 - Your Scientific Evidence presented is amazing! NOT!!! Google Howard Johnson Magnetic Field (Qualified Engineer) as well as a million other Scientific Papers - You're nothing but verbal DIAREA - Go and get another Job! Experimental EVIDENCE IS UNDISPUTABLE NO MATTER HOW MUCH RUBBISH YOU TALK. You dispute EXPERIMENT You're a fool! 

User2718218
7 seconds ago
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes Okay Chris, let's do a thought experiment together.  We have a standard bar magnet.  I am going to enter the south end of the bar magnet and travel through the magnet and emerge from the north end.  Sort of like the old movie Fantastic Voyage.

Before I enter the south end of the magnet I note that there is a magnetic field in a direction that starts from behind me and goes forward in the same direction I am moving in.  1/4 way through the magnet the magnetic field is the same and when I look all around me I see magnetic domains all oriented in the same direction as the magnetic field.  1/2 way through the magnet the magnetic field is still the same and when I look all around me I see magnetic domains all oriented in the same direction as the magnetic field. I look around and I do not see any Bloch wall showing a boundary layer between magnetic domains and their associated magnetic fields that are in a different direction.  3/4 way through the magnet the magnetic field is still the same and when I look all around me I see magnetic domains all oriented in the same direction as the magnetic field. When I emerge from the north end of the magnet I note the magnetic field is still the same; it is still in a direction that starts from behind me and goes forward in the same direction I am moving in.

Now, that's what it's like when you travel through a magnet.  Please now give me your version of when you travel through a magnet that supposedly has a Bloch wall at the center.

www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes
23 minutes ago (edited)
 
+User2718218 - Another post and we still are no further ahead! Lets do a REAL EXPERIMENT! Measure with SCIENTIFICIALLY proven to work with WELL KNOWN SCIENCE, a Hall Effect Probe same as Howard Johnson used, and really get somewhere. Measure the Magnet as Howard did, Map the Field Lines, as Howard Did! Or maybe a PEER REVIEWED Scientifically Proven: http://hamiltoninstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/WIN_HAM-5.pdf - I quote: "The photon experiences a spin relaxation (polarization) due to the magnetic field and the  polarization provided by the two-¼ wave glass panes and ferrofluid that we suspect effectively increases the reflectance of the interaction of the photons and the ferromagnetic nanoparticles suspended at the paramagnetic Bloch wall" - Really, SCIENCE IS NOT ABOUT LYING TO SUIT YOUR OPINION!!!

User2718218
6 seconds ago
 
+www.hyiq.org - Chris Sykes Chris, for starters you are deflecting my question.  I asked you to travel through the magnet just like I did and what's implicit is that you have to explain the rationale and the existence of the Bloch wall as you travel through it.   Are you up to the challenge?

The pdf mentions the ferrofluid viewer and offers up an esoteric explanation.  Starting at this posting on OU.com you get the REAL explanation for how the ferrofluid viewer works:  http://overunity.com/14767/ultimate-proof-of-magnetic-vortex-free-book-and-videos/msg430816/#msg430816

Going back to the issue at hand, if you tell me that there is a Bloch wall in the center of a magnet, then do a "magnet fly through" just like I did.  Come on, you want to stick to your guns, then put your money where your mouth is.  Explain the architecture of a magnet to me by flying through it using your OWN WORDS, don't point to a pdf.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2015, 03:05:41 AM by MileHigh »

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #280 on: January 03, 2015, 12:28:44 AM »
Image compliments of Poynt99.

Look at the text and compare it to the image:

Before I enter the south end of the magnet I note that there is a magnetic field in a direction that starts from behind me and goes forward in the same direction I am moving in.  1/4 way through the magnet the magnetic field is the same and when I look all around me I see magnetic domains all oriented in the same direction as the magnetic field.  1/2 way through the magnet the magnetic field is still the same and when I look all around me I see magnetic domains all oriented in the same direction as the magnetic field. I look around and I do not see any Bloch wall showing a boundary layer between magnetic domains and their associated magnetic fields that are in a different direction.  3/4 way through the magnet the magnetic field is still the same and when I look all around me I see magnetic domains all oriented in the same direction as the magnetic field. When I emerge from the north end of the magnet I note the magnetic field is still the same; it is still in a direction that starts from behind me and goes forward in the same direction I am moving in.
« Last Edit: January 03, 2015, 03:04:37 AM by MileHigh »

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #281 on: January 03, 2015, 01:13:13 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r38qMrjrSqs

In the above clip Chris Sykes thinks he is seeing Bloch walls with his magnetic viewing film.   The attached three images explain exactly what he is seeing, and it certainly is not a Bloch wall.

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« Reply #282 on: January 03, 2015, 02:05:19 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r38qMrjrSqs

In the above clip Chris Sykes thinks he is seeing Bloch walls with his magnetic viewing film.   The attached three images explain exactly what he is seeing, and it certainly is not a Bloch wall.

MileHigh,

Hard Scientific Data that is PEER Reviewed with many other experiments to back up the HARD DATA is ONLY REFUTED BY FOOLS! Lets not forget, PROFESSIONALS doing Professional Experiments! Especially when more simple experiments that are very easily replicated also prove the same HARD DATA!

You're using ideas and diagrams from a 100 year old concept! It is time you update your theories!

PEER REVIEWED: http://hamiltoninstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/WIN_HAM-5.pdf

Don't embarrass Science and stop embarrassing yourself! Learn what's really real instead of what you read in out-dated, incorrect, text books!

With regrets and a saddened disrespect for Ignorance

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #283 on: January 03, 2015, 02:05:57 AM »
Image compliments of Poynt99.

Look at the text and compare it to the image:

Before I enter the south end of the magnet I note that there is a magnetic field in a direction that starts from behind me and goes forward in the same direction I am moving in.  1/4 way through the magnet the magnetic field is the same and when I look all around me I see magnetic domains all oriented in the same direction as the magnetic field.  1/2 way through the magnet the magnetic field is still the same and when I look all around me I see magnetic domains all oriented in the same direction as the magnetic field. I look around and I do not see any Bloch wall showing a boundary layer between magnetic domains and their associated magnetic fields that are in a different direction.  3/4 way through the magnet the magnetic field is still the same and when I look all around me I see magnetic domains all oriented in the same direction as the magnetic field. When I emerge from the south end of the magnet I note the magnetic field is still the same; it is still in a direction that starts from behind me and goes forward in the same direction I am moving in.
OK ,im lost.
How or why dose the field turn around when you do,and exit where you entered?.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #284 on: January 03, 2015, 02:12:47 AM »
MileHigh,

Hard Scientific Data that is PEER Reviewed with many other experiments to back up the HARD DATA is ONLY REFUTED BY FOOLS! Lets not forget, PROFESSIONALS doing Professional Experiments! Especially when more simple experiments that are very easily replicated also prove the same HARD DATA!

You're using ideas and diagrams from a 100 year old concept! It is time you update your theories!

PEER REVIEWED: http://hamiltoninstitute.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/WIN_HAM-5.pdf

Don't embarrass Science and stop embarrassing yourself! Learn what's really real instead of what you read in out-dated, incorrect, text books!

With regrets and a saddened disrespect for Ignorance

Chris Sykes
Christ, these people have confused magnitude for direction.  Optical illusion "leads out" massive delusion.

 

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