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Offline bboj

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2014, 10:12:07 PM »
It is a particle flow

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2014, 10:19:55 PM »



 There's nothing to it,just read Ken's books.
                    John.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2014, 12:22:09 AM »
Do you have a link John?

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« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2014, 12:22:09 AM »
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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2014, 01:03:35 AM »
Of course... nobody has ever been able to design a working device based on these "missing secrets" that isn't fully covered by standard EM theory. Meanwhile, that same standard theory allows us to perform amazing feats of engineering, manipulating entities that the author of the "missing secrets" text claims do not even exist. All the while, typing away on his electronic digital computer that was designed 100 percent using the theory he says is wrong, and works by carefully channeling the behaviour of things he says aren't real.
It's too bad we don't use CRTs any more... the refutation of all his postulates would be staring him in the face whenever he sits down.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2014, 02:26:29 AM »
Hey, that RWG  Ed Leedskalnin trick looks just right for a "Trash harvester".


What does Ed Leedskalnin's "Impulse Magnetization Effect" have to do with Tesla's early wireless transmitter pictured below? This transmitter broadcasted a magnet wave thirty miles from downtown New York to West Point. It transmitted power along with information. The top portion of the radio contained a spark gap that created a violent "Field Collapse", similar to the one Russ produces with his one wire coil, from the battery below.
« Last Edit: September 30, 2014, 04:34:32 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2014, 05:19:47 AM »
Here's a schematic of an early spark gap transmitter:

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2014, 05:56:07 AM »
What would happen if we use two identical clip leads, and form two one loop coils? We loop one lead so the clips are positioned in close adjacency like a spark gap. We run the wire through the hole in the board and assemble the six nuts like Russ did. Now, we take second clip lead across the room to a battery, loop it and spark a field collapse. What are the chances the spark will jump the gap in the second wire and lock the nuts with the same Ed Leedskalnin "Impulse Magnetization Effect" at a distance?
« Last Edit: September 30, 2014, 05:10:52 PM by synchro1 »

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2014, 03:38:21 PM »
Quiz time.

If a steel ball is place near a magnet on a flat table,why is it attracted to the magnet?. I mean dosnt the steel ball carry the field of the magnetic pole it's closest to,dose it not become an extension of the magnet/. If so,then why do two like poles attract.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2014, 07:23:26 PM »
"In 1888 physicist Heinrich Hertz set out to scientifically verify Maxwell's predictions. Hertz used a tuned spark gap transmitter and a tuned spark gap detector (consisting of a loop of wire connected to a small spark gap) located a few meters away. In a series of UHF experiments, Hertz verified that electromagnetic waves were being produced by the transmitter. When the transmitter sparked, small sparks also appeared across the receiver's spark gap, which could be seen under a microscope".


What would it take to recreate this spark gap transmitter reciever of Heinrich Hertz, to transmit and receive Leedskalnin strength locking force? A larger battery perhaps?


Look at Hertz's first receiver below. It's just a one wire loop with a spark gap, just like Russ's Impulse Magnetizer coil:


I may be, once again, reinventing the remote car door lock!

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #25 on: September 30, 2014, 08:42:39 PM »
Synchro1, you are polluting what is supposed to be an educational thread with junk fantasy postings.

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Offline vineet_kiran

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #26 on: October 01, 2014, 03:48:56 AM »

A permanent magnet creates magnetic field around it for infinite time without losing energy of its electrons. Does it mean that magnetic field is created out of nothing?  Does a moving electron dig out energy from vaccuum (ether) to create magnetic field around it?

Why should a moving electron produce magnetic field?

Have a look at this experiment.

http://www.overunity.com/11016/eliminate-lenzs-current/msg290688/#msg290688


When a non-insulated 'spring' carrying current is compressed, number of turns becomes one.  Hence one turn has to produce tremendous
current to conserve the flux.    But a very high current cannot be maintained at low voltage. So, it has to dig energy from vaccuum to conserve the flux!

In the above experiment if flux is conserved then energy is not conserved and if energy is conversed, then flux is not conserved!   Nature
prefers what?  Conservetion of flux or energy?


http://science.howstuffworks.com/e-bomb3.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electromagnetic_pulse


In a EMP weapon a current carrying coil is melted by making an explosion which makes number of turns in the coil zero resulting in sudden collapse of magnetic field which in turn creates severe electromagnetic pulses in the atmosphere.

EMP weapon produces EM pulses in an uncontrolled and vigorous manner.   In the above experiment you can produce controlled EM pulses.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #27 on: October 01, 2014, 04:31:38 PM »
  A magnetic field that is changing will cause charged particles to change their position.  Charged particles that are changing their position will cause a changing magnetic field.  That is why motors that claim to run using permanent magnets are mythical.  Please note the words CHANGE versus PERMANENT.  To create a permanent magnet take a conductor and cool it down until there is no thermal energy left in it.   You have increased the order within the conductor.   As they do when they manufacture a permanent magnet.  Now move your cold wire near a source of heat.  As  the chaos increases in the cold wire the magnetic field changes.  If there is a nearby conductor a current will be induced in the conductor.  It is simply the transfer of order from body to body.

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #28 on: October 01, 2014, 08:50:24 PM »
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-M07N4a6-Y

(Compare this demonstration to some of the "demonstrations" and "experiments" that have been presented concerning magnetic fields on another thread.)

Offline fritz

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Re: Magnet Myths and Misconceptions
« Reply #29 on: October 01, 2014, 10:52:35 PM »
Hi,

what a fruitful discussion.
We all got bluffed at a certain point from these iron filing experimenters kits.....
Another typical myth or misconception - is the idea that an iron core "concentrates" the magnetic field lines(!!) of a coil - and thus intensifies the magnetic flux.
The truth is that the field from the coil stays the same - and the resulting flux is a superposition of the magnetized (by induction)field of the core and the coil.
Even if its often not that transparent - the links to the electric domain persist. The embedded charge of a dielectrica gets its orientation by electric induction and the increased flux  is a superposition of the originating flux and the flux of the induced dielectrica.
Both dielectrica and permeabilita are non-homogenous.... which explains why a cap is never empty..... and a coil needs few current to be neutral....

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