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Author Topic: Magnet Motor Generator  (Read 11810 times)

Offline ELEMAN

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Magnet Motor Generator
« on: September 23, 2014, 06:23:59 PM »
NEW DESIGN MAGNETS 2014...2015 OverUnity is iT or Not... Motor Generator or a Toy...
This is a Homemade  "ELEMAN" Magnetic Motor Self Running or Quantum harmonic Oscillator VS Bedini SSG MOTOR the same "project" that runs from one battery to charge a second battery. Test with CSB 12V 7.2Ah UPS battery, Sealed Lead Acid rechargeable battery.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=064IF7MfNCs&list=PLT7Zi_DRtP7fpdEHDlFIfaI_bOwZo5zyF&index=13

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Magnet Motor Generator
« on: September 23, 2014, 06:23:59 PM »

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2014, 08:45:11 PM »
NEW DESIGN MAGNETS 2014...2015 OverUnity is iT or Not... Motor Generator or a Toy...
This is a Homemade  "ELEMAN" Magnetic Motor Self Running or Quantum harmonic Oscillator VS Bedini SSG MOTOR the same "project" that runs from one battery to charge a second battery. Test with CSB 12V 7.2Ah UPS battery, Sealed Lead Acid rechargeable battery.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=064IF7MfNCs&list=PLT7Zi_DRtP7fpdEHDlFIfaI_bOwZo5zyF&index=13


You know... I really resent seeing a bunch of ad-supported videos with things like "SELF RUNNING MAGNETIC MOTOR" in the title.... when no such thing is shown at all. What IS shown in those videos? More claims without support, bad measurements and the ever-present BATTERY.

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2014, 05:55:33 AM »
Hi Eleman,

thank you for sharing your motor generator demo.

I looked at another demo video you have which is more convincing then the one you shared.
I included the link to it and the P in and P out of the results.

P in is 1.32 W

P out is 2.1 W (if correct wattage for an E10 12v bulb?)

Your power supply is a better choice for accurate input power measurements but for the output you need to get a 100 Ohm 10 Watt resistor and use a Multimeter and not that cheap blue power meter you used. Just measure the DC voltage across the 100 Ohm resistor with a multimeter and it will be real trusted results as long as you have a rectified and 1000uf or more filter Capacitor DC output.
Don't use batteries or Bulbs to prove a power output. No one will believe you.

12 volts DC across a 100 Ohm resistor is 1.44 Watts... that's enough to get major attention on your design if your input is only 1.32 Watts. If you get a higher voltage then even better!

Link to your better test video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTkXciAn488

Wishing you all the best in your test results and please share as you did to help us all learn

Luc

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2014, 05:55:33 AM »
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2014, 07:03:05 AM »
Don't be silly. You are using the meters on the power supply, and a hobby shop wattmeter, to claim that you are overturning Physics with thirty Euro in off-the-shelf parts. Right.


Here is a challenge for you. Build a second identical unit, and run the second one off the output of the first one. Of course you cannot simply self-loop the first one, we already know that, even though you are claiming plenty enough OU to be able to do that. Some magic always prevents it, even when the output measurement is 20 or 30 times the input measurement.


But surely there is no magic preventing you from disconnecting the light bulb and substituting the input to the second motor there. Now... here is the big question. Which system will run faster, the first one running from the 12 volt battery or PSU... or the second identical one, running from the output of the first one, with the light bulb load on the second one as "final output"?


Would anyone care to make a prediction as to which of the two identical units will run faster?







Offline synchro1

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2014, 04:59:21 PM »

Does the smaller magnet wheel turn for free in this Magluvin video or not?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SV0mtuko4M




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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2014, 04:59:21 PM »
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Offline synchro1

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #5 on: September 24, 2014, 05:09:33 PM »
Here's proof:

Offline synchro1

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #6 on: September 24, 2014, 05:36:47 PM »
Magluvin's spinning his satellite rotor with the large disc by hand. What would happen if Mag's ran the prime mover with a tiny electric motor and precisely measured the input with and without the smaller disk? Would anyone bet the input would drop with the satellite rotor joined to the drive rotor?


Lidmotor and JonnyDavro uploaded several cool videos demonstrating this effect with satellite spinners.

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
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Offline topothemtn

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2014, 01:14:30 AM »
TinselKoala.

Why would you care if a video was ad supported ?

It might have no effect on the validity of the subject.

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2014, 11:00:08 PM »
I wonder how Lenz delay phase shifter coils would work coupled to the "Eleman Generator"? A rotor of parallel magnet rings, with wave reflector Lenz propulsion output coils on each ring, would speed the rotor up and require an increased speed adjustment from the prime mover to not create drag. This would result in additional propulsion from the output coils and result in steadily ratcheted increased output.


I built a PVC platform for my ball bearing motor here in Costa Rica, but since I'm returning to North America next week, I plan to wait to order the magnets from home.
 

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2014, 11:00:08 PM »
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Offline mscoffman

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2014, 12:33:42 AM »

@TK,

I agree with you fully. Why shouldn't he offer to purchase a second watt meter identical to the first?
Then he could interchange them during the run. Why *never* any rational validation? Why not make us feel good?

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On the magnetic coupling. Actually I think magnetic gear coupling in the way Elemen applied it is genius.

You will notice the vast differences in diameter of the magnetic coupling. This will guarantee that it will slip.
The fact that it slips will almost guarantee this it is a harmonic coupling. Essentially it is an automatic
transmission that impedance matches the motor source Rev's to the destination generator's. As I have said
in the past, impedance matching is the key to overunity.

I don't know whether this is overunity but I'll bet it's very close.

   
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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2014, 12:51:41 AM »
I wonder how Lenz delay phase shifter coils would work coupled to the "Eleman Generator"? A rotor of parallel magnet rings, with wave reflector Lenz propulsion output coils on each ring, would speed the rotor up and require an increased speed adjustment from the prime mover to not create drag. This would result in additional propulsion from the output coils and result in steadily ratcheted increased output.


I built a PVC platform for my ball bearing motor here in Costa Rica, but since I'm returning to North America next week, I plan to wait to order the magnets from home.
 


syncro,

I recommend that you build the generator nearly identical to his. He has a mechanical flywheel around the
outside with those very strong very heavy bar magnets as rotating mass. Then he has his alternator built
close in to the center with those broad disk magnets, almost touching domains N/S?. His coils are inside. His alternator
is extremely power stiff showing not a tenth of a volt drop with an incandescent LV lamp load. D**nm good if true.

:S:MarkSCoffman


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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
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Offline synchro1

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2014, 01:24:37 PM »
@mscoffman,


                    Thank you. Do you know if the tiny driver disk magnets on the power motor are diametrically polarized?

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2014, 09:35:41 PM »
@mscoffman,


                    Thank you. Do you know if the tiny driver disk magnets on the power motor are diametrically polarized?

Know? No. but I almost guarantee it is though. All three aligned. - I'd be highly surprised if they were any other way.
Maybe, quadrature would be the next option.

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Re: Magnet Motor Generator
« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2014, 11:32:03 PM »
Know? No. but I almost guarantee it is though. All three aligned. - I'd be highly surprised if they were any other way.
Maybe, quadrature would be the next option.


@mscoffman,


That's what has me confused. You know how they stick together by themselves, "Chris-Crossed". It would seem that a cylinder the length of the stack would eliminate a tricky gluing job.

 

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