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Author Topic: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics  (Read 45995 times)

MasterPlaster

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #15 on: March 05, 2018, 02:11:42 AM »
I suddenly feel very stupid. There is only 1 post from wdjensen123 and that was on September 2014.
Clearly he must have revealed some un-spekable secret and was elimiated pronto!

Belfior

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #16 on: March 05, 2018, 10:15:35 AM »
I suddenly feel very stupid. There is only 1 post from wdjensen123 and that was on September 2014.
Clearly he must have revealed some un-spekable secret and was elimiated pronto!

Not a good idea to reveal stuff like this in a country that has a NATO base in it. Well not a good idea anywhere! At least have the common decency to reveal all the principles and not just give vague list of your achievements and then go silent for what ever reason.

At least give us the measuring device!

SolarLab

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #17 on: March 05, 2018, 04:13:32 PM »
F.Y.I.

Conrad <=> "So, I am looking for a clear description of a longitudinal (and/or scalar) wave sender and receiver."

Have a look through the posts found below; they might be of interest and value:

Start here - http://overunity.com/12736/kapanadze-cousin-dally-free-energy/msg516762/#msg516762
and review the next seven (7) pages (especially the last 2 or 3 pages) or so; you can skip the "troll" stuff,
if you wish, to save time.

Much of the work regarding Meyl, Handwerker, Jackson, et. al. was posted quite a few years
ago so a lot of the information has become obscure by now.

Sorry to hear your Meyl device didn't yield satisfactory results; others, including myself,
have had better luck. Driving the device with a good, matched, narrow pulse generator seemed to work a bit better.
Two of many examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPV9Nmnt_VI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6rY7wgM0I

Not all, but some of the references are, as you would say "links to a mass of words (whatever they are
worth besides hot air)," but I'm sure you can appreciate teleporting a physical working device to you through
this thread would present a problem  :) (my Startrek Transporter is currently in the shop undergoing
Re-calibration!) - a poor attempt at humor I know.  ???

A general purpose, wide band, detector would be difficult to conceive because of the systems natural "selectivity." This
characteristic did not appear to lend itself to conventional radio tuning techniques although, if I recall correctly, there
was some hint. But that's as much as I know...

Much of the open source development and theory is still a "work in progress" however.
Good Luck

FIN

sm0ky2

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #18 on: March 05, 2018, 04:55:22 PM »
The reason it is often considered WB, or UWB, is because the analysis
leads to the same results.
Consider the case when we analyze frequency and amplitude
vs the gradient of frequencies over space and time.
(applicable when the band gradient is greater than the combined wavelengths
   of the individual frequencies involved)
By introducing frequencies not present in the original signal


By standard analysis, we see here that the scalar energy is
the derivation of the sum of the differences of the WB set.
(this points to a logical fallacy in scalar theory observable in the time domain)


Scalar theory is an unnecessary manipulation of standard theory,
as the expanded view already covers this situation.




I have to agree with Conrad on this one.


sm0ky2

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #19 on: March 05, 2018, 05:06:05 PM »
To understand what I am talking about,
Look at the data in the first video, and divide the change in voltage
over time, by the 220kHz deviation


The simplified matrix solution is 1 X 5
The deviation is caused by differences in impedance
introduced at the connection points
(and possibly other inconsistencies in design)


This entire system can be handled with standard theory
without the need for complex scalar mathematics.

SolarLab

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #20 on: March 05, 2018, 05:18:31 PM »
To understand what I am talking about,
Look at the data in the first video, and divide the change in voltage
over time, by the 220kHz deviation


The simplified matrix solution is 1 X 5
The deviation is caused by differences in impedance
introduced at the connection points
(and possibly other inconsistencies in design)


This entire system can be handled with standard theory
without the need for complex scalar mathematics.

Smokey2 - Do you happen to know how we can account for the "Back Channel"
effect? You know, the characteristic where a simultaneous duplex link is formed
between the so called transmitter and receiver, or multiple receivers. Got me stumped,
but then again that's not hard to do!   Time vs Z type time dilation?

Your not referring to where he initially sweeps the device with the generator to find
the system resonance I trust.

I have a hunch that this phenomena might also have something to do with the
inability to block the signal employing a Faraday Cage shield.

Thanks in advance.

sm0ky2

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #21 on: March 05, 2018, 05:33:27 PM »
I would refer you to the Helmholtz equations
Emphasizing the importance of distances between transmitter
and each individual reciever


The energies in these types of systems
are generally not of sufficient density to cause dialation
So you sort of lost me there...

SolarLab

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #22 on: March 05, 2018, 05:40:54 PM »
I would refer you to the Helmholtz equations
Emphasizing the importance of distances between transmitter
and each individual reciever

Thanks, I'll have look at that approach.

Tried the high Q oscillator (transmitter) "load pull" analysis but couldn't account
for the "maintained" channel anomaly. Shielding aside.


sm0ky2

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #23 on: March 05, 2018, 05:51:59 PM »
The faraday cage is an inductive device.
because of the high voltage, low current application
the signal doesn’t “see” the cage in the same way as an electric field.


This is something I learned the hard way, playing with electrostatic generators
with variable frequency pulsing.
Field effects are blocked by the cage, but changes in potential can still transmit through


The higher the voltage, the more prominent the passthrough becomes
A steady state field can be discernibly blocked by the cage,
But a pulsating HV field causes disturbances outside the effective causality the cage creates.


An ‘ideal cage’ with link sizes approaching the Plank length, may achieve full shielding
But I don’t have the means to test this.


SolarLab

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #24 on: March 05, 2018, 06:12:57 PM »
Right, that's one of the key anomalies of this Scalar/Longitudinal wave stuff.
There are a few other characteristics that are quite fascinating as well!

Helmholtz deals primarily with a "linear magnetic field" so I'll have to think
on that one for a bit - maybe, a simple substitution of the magnetics with
electrics- um, well maybe not  :-\

Still trying to find some other conventional (wire) electron current flow link in
the receivers, other than displacement. The pseudo ground wire in the lab
is suspect but using an earth ground scheme is a bit more perplexing.

Anyway, more food for thought,
thanks and have a good day - back to real work so I can eat!

 

sm0ky2

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #25 on: March 05, 2018, 06:52:32 PM »
Sorry, it’s early in the morning and not enough coffee


When we derive the Helmholtz equation with respect to the
perpendicular electric vector we approach the perspective
It is the same as the magnetic vector derivation
You have to go back to Maxwell and do it again
(and the 3rd equation for the gravitational, all 3 define the relationship to time)


From this we can see that as we approach 3Mv/m^2 we begin to affect the
curvature of our reference Hamiltonian
This is the electric time dilation effect.
And the functionality of the warp drive.
(not actually moving ftl but instead speeding up the progression of time by
  curving space)
This was first experimented on board the Eldridge
But they didn’t know what they were doing, and people got killed.




conradelektro

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #26 on: March 05, 2018, 06:56:10 PM »
Much of the work regarding Meyl, Handwerker, Jackson, et. al. was posted quite a few years
ago so a lot of the information has become obscure by now.

Sorry to hear your Meyl device didn't yield satisfactory results; others, including myself,
have had better luck. Driving the device with a good, matched, narrow pulse generator seemed to work a bit better.
Two of many examples:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPV9Nmnt_VI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rj6rY7wgM0I

I did the same experiment as in the videos "successfully". But what tells you that you experienced longitudinal or scalar waves? There is a difference to your "successful" experiment, I did not make a video. Maybe it needs the recording of a video to show longitudinal or scalar waves. I guess it is the words uttered in the video which exhibit the longitudinal or scalar waves.


The attached photo shows the function generator and the oscilloscope used, the pancake coils and the air capacitor. One does not need pancake coils it also "works" with ordinary coils.

Greetings, Conrad

ramset

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #27 on: March 05, 2018, 06:59:20 PM »
As mentioned in the other thread
we have at least two [possibly 4] test beds being built to investigate similar claims

we just have to sort out some forum issues with a member here  causing problems [or trying to].

hopefully that will take care of itself in the coming week

if not.... there is another open source Venue.


respectfully
Chet K
« Last Edit: March 05, 2018, 11:52:29 PM by ramset »

sm0ky2

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #28 on: March 05, 2018, 07:16:10 PM »
I have a problem with the way “time” is used in the referenced scalar mathematics


It’s too much to explain in detail here, but it has to do with the changing time function
across the gradient.
it is not appropriately accounted for in the math.
This is convoluted by the symbolism.


Solving conventional equations using matrices
then becomes a much simpler solution to WB transmission
with the correct use of time.


And to be clear, we are dealing with spherical waves.
Not “longitudinal” waves.


Place the reciever vertical, or on the opposite side,
or underneath (though the last one changes things a bit)




TinselKoala

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Re: New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics
« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2018, 11:33:51 PM »
As mentioned in the other thread
we have at least two [possibly 4] test beds being built to investigate similar claims

we just have to sort out some forum issues with a member here .

hopefully that will take care of itself in the coming week

if not.... there is another open source Venue.


respectfully
Chet K
« Last Edit: March 06, 2018, 08:31:45 AM by TinselKoala »