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Offline franco malgarini

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The simplest motor-generator system
« on: September 15, 2014, 03:56:55 PM »
The motor M1 is buy a large centrifugal force to the mass of 1 kg
who shall transmit it to the M2 generator via the  lever principle:

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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2014, 09:21:24 AM »
The motor M1 is buy a large centrifugal force to the mass of 1 kg
who shall transmit it to the M2 generator via the  lever principle:

How exactly does it work?

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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2014, 03:02:28 PM »
It works by the centrifugal force (5 tons) developed by a sphere of 1 kg that comes spun by a motor at 50 cm distance, 3.000 g / m






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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2014, 04:35:17 PM »
It works by the centrifugal force (5 tons) developed by a sphere of 1 kg that comes spun by a motor at 50 cm distance, 3.000 g / m

But this force acts in a radial direction, IMHO, so it is not able to provide an additional momentum, is'n it??




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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2014, 05:28:28 PM »
It 'just a matter of mechanics: the overunity there for sure!
We must reduce the mechanical stresses and friction and build a robust system ...

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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2014, 05:44:10 PM »
It 'just a matter of mechanics: the overunity there for sure!
We must reduce the mechanical stresses and friction and build a robust system ...

How exactly did you get 250 W from 30 W???

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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2014, 06:18:37 PM »
When I was a child I enjoyed tying a string to a small mass of iron and turn it wildly with a little effort of your fingers: once it starts tumbling will apparently remained by itself ...
Sorry, I'm not a physicist, but I trust a lot of intuition
and then ... let's not forget the effect produced by the flywheel mass.




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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2014, 06:12:51 PM »
There are many motor-generator systems in the world:

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Motor-Generator_Self-Looped_with_Usable_Energy_Left_Over


... and I think you'll find that most, if not all, of them are useless.

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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2014, 07:07:53 PM »
Well ... before you judge, I would do some experimenting anyway ...







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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2014, 07:47:48 PM »
In a motor-generator system can be used even gravity:

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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2014, 08:14:55 PM »
        output teoretico   : 1,57 KW ~ 1600Nm/sec
        input nominal/real:   ?   


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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2014, 08:55:18 PM »
The gravity machine works on the principle of  resonance; so that this machine can operate continuously, needs a boost that provides them to overcome the dead angle. This is achieved through an auxiliary motor intended to intervene for a very short time, of the order of tenth of a second: It is a DC motor powered directly from the dynamo.

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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #13 on: September 18, 2014, 07:17:43 PM »
Here are all of the calculations, but the document is in Italian ....

http://www.scribd.com/doc/182644908/20131108173559-pdf




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Re: The simplest motor-generator system
« Reply #14 on: September 19, 2014, 12:28:40 AM »
I cannot address the math, because I do not read Italian. Please forgive me for that. It is actually a language I am attempting to learn in my old age as my wife LOVES Italy. So I am forced to use logic to discuss what has been presented. Fix a rod to a bearing that can turn freely on a shaft. Put a weight on the end of that rod and hold the weight just to the right of Top Dead Center (TDC) and release it. The bearing will spin on the shaft (a little friction there) and the weight will swing down and back up on the opposite side. It MAY even have enough momentum to go over the top, but I doubt it. It looks promising, much like a weight on a string.


Now lock up that bearing so the falling rod is forced to rotate the shaft on which it spun so freely. What happens to the falling weight now? Add to that the resistance of the weight attempting to turn the motor as a generator (Additional resistance there). No matter how you look at this device, the motor cannot turn the weight on the end of the shaft without that bearing being locked. It is necessary that it be locked in order for the motor to turn it, raising it to the vertical,  and it is necessary for it to be locked in order for the falling weight to induce torque on the shaft as it falls.  This is far from a weight on the end of a string, and has no relation to that whatsoever. It is a lever pure and simple. Having three or four of them on a shaft if they are all aligned is no different than one large one.


Unless you have a working device to demonstrate you will never convince people like me who have ACTUALLY BUILT similar devices that did not work.


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